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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Nov 6, 2002 14:42:09 GMT -5
Guy Charron joined the Mighty Ducks as an assistant coach prior to the 2000-2001 season. He replaced Craig Hartsburg behind the bench in mid-December, 2000.
Charron, 51, spent the previous two seasons as head coach of the Grand Rapids Griffins of the International Hockey League. Charron was named the IHL Coach of the Year on May 11th, 2000, after leading the Griffins to a 51-22-9 mark and a first place finish in the Eastern Conference. He took Grand Rapids to the 2000 Turner Cup Finals, where they fell to the Chicago Wolves in six games.
Now in his eighth year coaching in the NHL, Charron was an assistant coach with the Calgary Flames from 1990-95 and with the New York Islanders from 1995-97. He also assumed the head coaching duties with the Flames at the end of the 1991-92 season, finishing with a record of 6-7-3 in 16 games.
Prior to joining the Flames, Charron spent five years with Hockey Canada. He was the director of player personnel/assistant coach from 1985-88 and assistant general manager/assistant coach from 1988-90. In January of 1990, Charron was the head coach for the Canadian National Junior Team that won the gold medal in Helsinki, Finland.
Okay, a 13 year NHL career, international and IHL success, 8 years behind the bench in the NHL, and by all accounts a very fair and sane guy. What does Michel Therrien have over this guy? Somebody explain this to me. Savard brought him here as a saftey, and it's almost time to pull the switch....
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Post by JacquesInFL on Nov 6, 2002 16:38:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the recap on Charron. He has solid reputation around the league. I was absent from Montréal press and Habsrus when Savard hired him, so I'm not completely sure of those circumstances and what is the depth relationship between AS and Charron.
Overall, AS seem a little ambiguous about our last assistant coach -- Carbo. Was he really keen to have Guy stay on or not? Does anyone think Charron will get the same lukewarm signals since perhaps AS would have Jacques Martin or someone with deep ties in mind if Therrien loses control?
I still regret letting Carbo go away again. I know most of you guys did not think Guy was ready to be main man behind bench, but he had respect of and credibility with players. And a good hockey mind like Carbo can progress nicely along coaching learning curve, which I'm afraid is the case for MT.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 16:41:04 GMT -5
I am not exactly ''hot'' at the idea of having this guy as our head coach.
I think he doesn't want to be a head coach in the NHL. Too much stress.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Nov 6, 2002 16:59:52 GMT -5
I am not eaxctly hot either. He's got lots of experience for sure, but on teams that played really bad during his tenure. Coincidence? I dunno but I have a feeling he's indeed the next one that will step in and this is a big part of the reason why I am not in a hurry to see Therrien leave.
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Nov 6, 2002 17:16:46 GMT -5
The guy was in Calgary and Anaheim. Dave King is in Columbus. So what? The stream of smart hockey brains that have been driven out of this town is astonishing, and includes the likes of Dave King, Jacques Lemaire, Alain Vigneault and Jacques Laperierre. So the fact that people here actually support Michel Therrien ("he's one of us, he probably likes bowling") isn't all that shocking.
But make no mistake: Guy Charron is no schmuck. If you don't think this guy is head and shoulders above Michel Therrien in terms of experience and smarts and credibility then you deserve Michel Therrien.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 17:21:31 GMT -5
JV, do you actually read what we say? you should know by now Doc and I are no MT fans, what we are saying is Charron doesn't look too interested in taking the job(as he has said many times...his previous NHL head coaching jobs have not been a real success and he doesn't want another one for now)
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Post by jkr on Nov 6, 2002 20:01:12 GMT -5
Charron has said that he is not interested in the head coaching job. What else would you expect him to say? He was brought in as an assistant - he isn't going to lay claim to the top job.
Maybe Savard hired him as a safety valve - if he fires Therrien he at least has an experienced coach to finish the season. Then he looks for the person he really wants.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 20:03:40 GMT -5
Charron has said that he is not interested in the head coaching job. What else would you expect him to say? He was brought in as an assistant - he isn't going to lay claim to the top job. Last week when the Ducks came to town I remember reading an article on Charron(former Ducks head coach). They asked him if he wanted to be a head coach and he said his experiences in Anaheim and Calgary were really unjoyable and he would only consider it if someone offered him a head coach job on a great team...
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Post by montreal on Nov 6, 2002 20:14:54 GMT -5
The guy was in Calgary and Anaheim. Dave King is in Columbus. So what? The stream of smart hockey brains that have been driven out of this town is astonishing, and includes the likes of Dave King, Jacques Lemaire, Alain Vigneault and Jacques Laperierre. So the fact that people here actually support Michel Therrien ("he's one of us, he probably likes bowling") isn't all that shocking. But make no mistake: Guy Charron is no schmuck. If you don't think this guy is head and shoulders above Michel Therrien in terms of experience and smarts and credibility then you deserve Michel Therrien. Well I liked King, but he was offered a head coaching job, so I wasn't surprised he left. Lemaire is a good coach as well, but I wouldn't put Vigneault in the same group. I dont like Therrien to much, but I wouldn't fire him until the team falls apart, and we have a good replacement. I don't think Charron is the answer.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Nov 6, 2002 20:55:44 GMT -5
Well I liked King, but he was offered a head coaching job, so I wasn't surprised he left. Lemaire is a good coach as well, but I wouldn't put Vigneault in the same group. I dont like Therrien to much, but I wouldn't fire him until the team falls apart, and we have a good replacement. I don't think Charron is the answer. I agree we did have some great hockey minds here, but AV isn't among them. Many very good vets couldn't stand him anymore Thornton and Recchi comes to mind. Also if memory serve, Vigneault was a big part of why King left as the latter was given an obscure job in Europe because he was overshadowing AV and having open feud with players (Ulanov). In any case, where is AV now? I don't see much teams battling to get a shot at his knowledge... Charron we know nothing about aside from the fact that he has tons of experience but all of it on teams that played really bad...
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Post by Boston_Habs on Nov 7, 2002 9:50:48 GMT -5
How does Claude Julien factor into the mix? Like Therrien, he worked his way up through the junior ranks and won a Memorial Cup.
I don't so much care about prior NHL experience - give me a tireless worker, someone who knows the game inside and out, who has good leadership skills, good communication skills, and who demands 100% effort from vets and rookies alike.
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Nov 7, 2002 11:00:14 GMT -5
I seem to remember at the time AV was hired the other canidate they were looking at was Bob Hartley. With hindsight being what it is it may have made a huge change to the difference to the organization, but then with all the injuries AV had Hartley may have just as easily been run out of town.
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