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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 5, 2002 22:45:07 GMT -5
You are the coach. What do you?
Bring back Audette? Kilger? Hackett back in goal? stay with the same lineup?
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Post by larek on Nov 5, 2002 23:41:00 GMT -5
Kilger,Audette in Lindsayand Dackell out!
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2002 1:37:29 GMT -5
You are the coach. What do you? Bring back Audette? Kilger? Hackett back in goal? stay with the same lineup? If I'm Therrien, I fall on my sword, for the good of the team. The ultimate sacrifice.
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Post by montreal on Nov 6, 2002 2:08:38 GMT -5
You are the coach. What do you? Bring back Audette? Kilger? Hackett back in goal? stay with the same lineup? Wow thats a tough one. One I put Hackett in net, not cause of Theo's game, but cause he hasn't lost yet, and has a .937 save %. Next, don't touch the Bulis-Juneau-Dackell line, let them play. After that, take apart the 4th line. I would like a major shake up of the lines, but I would wait for Ribeiro to come back, before I do that. I don't like Chow, on any line. The Gilmor-Perreault-Petrov line is scary. If the puck is in our zone, its like a scary movie that I can't watch. They are bad in their own zone, and if not for Petrov's speed and neat little spin in circles for no reason, the line would be way worse. But for now, I would let them be, and put a 4th line of McKay Kilger Audette. I think whatever message was intended for Kilger, is either recieved now loud and clear, or he will never get it. So play him or start thinking trade. No, I dont think Kilger's going anywhere. He wasn't playing his role, and he complained, so he sat the pine, and the team got hot. So it made his trip a little longer, but now he should be hungray and ready to play. I don't think Audette will be with this team by the end of the season, but he's on the team now, and we are playing a team that is getting very bad goaltending/defence, so I would put Audette in on the 4th line, and tell him to shoot every chance he gets, and make sure he gets PP over Chow. I wouldn't put him on the 1st line, cause he hasnt earned that, but if he plays good and Chow coasts around again. Then switch them.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 8:14:36 GMT -5
Hackett in (some soft of showcase for Mad Mike ;D)
Kilger in, Blouin out if the Isles don't dress an efforcer
Kilger in, Lindsay out if the Isles dress an enforcer
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Post by Doc Holliday on Nov 6, 2002 9:14:14 GMT -5
Audette AND Kilger have to come back and as for who I'd sit... ...Doug Gilmour, 11 games played 0 goals 4 assists and barely 1 shot on goal per game while getting prime icetime and pp time... It's deja-vue in his case, we'll probably have to wait until mid January before he turns on the juice. Audette got punished, humiliated and banned for 4 games because he did not scored in 8 games while often seeing 4th line duty... Talk about double standards... If Therrien was fair and coherent in any way and had any type of testicular fortitude (!) Gilmour would watch the next few games from the stands... ...that of course will never happen and those who'll pay the price are indeed guys like Blouin and Lindsay that do their work, providing the only little tiny bit of grit on this team, as 4th liners in the meager 4-6 mins they play. As if the 4th liners are the ones to be blamed at this point...
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 9:31:59 GMT -5
Kilger for Gilmour and Audette for who?
we need names ;D
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Post by Doc Holliday on Nov 6, 2002 9:54:33 GMT -5
...Petrov. Take away his 2 goals game in TO and he's been pretty ordinary all season. Yesterday he did f** all.
Zed - Koivu -Chow Kilger - Perreault - Audette Bulis - Juneau - Dack Blouin - Lindsay - McKay
...and I would not bring back Hackett. Theodore did not play bad, he gave up one softie but received as usual zero support. It's not normal that any win from this team happens only if the goalie gets the first star. Theo got his game back and he's our starter. The team must rally around him, he's the franchise player.
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Post by Ryan on Nov 6, 2002 10:09:18 GMT -5
Why is it so clear to every one of us that we need an new coaching staff, yet nothing ever gets done about it by management?
I mean I realize things aren't that easy, and there's political games to be played, but come on.
I don't believe this team is as bad as it plays on a lot of nights. You just never know what kind of effort you're going to get on any given night and that is unacceptalbe.
Get Audette on a scoring line, and yank Gilmour out of there. Friggin wake up Doug, I know you're old, but don't sign the contract if you can't do the job.
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Post by HFTO on Nov 6, 2002 10:36:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure who to start ?Theo obviously can't be yanked after every bad performance though Doc I still think he was soft on three of the goals. Theo will be our number one goalie regardless so maybe we should start him against the struggling Isles and play Hack at home ice against L.A.Theo though he has struggled isn't getting any support at home thats for sure out scored 17-6 in three losses ouch! HFTO
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Post by larek on Nov 6, 2002 11:10:13 GMT -5
Start Hackett against the Isles and if we get the win start him against L.A.,Hackett has outplayed Theo By a mile,we need wins and Hackett is getting them for us!
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 12:01:32 GMT -5
...Petrov. Take away his 2 goals game in TO and he's been pretty ordinary all season. Yesterday he did f** all. Zed - Koivu -Chow Kilger - Perreault - Audette Bulis - Juneau - Dack Blouin - Lindsay - McKay Oh my well I guess it could be Petrov's turn to sit. I wonder what Don Meehan would think(his agent)... But it's clear, we have 3 RW's who fit into 2 spots. Until one of them goes, the problem will ALWAYS be there I agree on Theodore not playing that bad last night, but I would bring back Hackett. Here's why: Islanders in town. Islanders are struggling. Hackett on top of his game. We need the 2 points. Milbury will(hopefully) be in town and if Hack has a great game and Osgood sucks again, Milbury will get even more desperate. You know Mike, when he panics, he'll make a foolish move. Save Theodore for the Kings.
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Post by habfan4 on Nov 6, 2002 12:01:53 GMT -5
Against a struggling Isles team, I'd say take a couple of risks:
First, I start Theo again. If only to let the team know that they owe it to him to work harder. Time for the team to rescue him for a change.
Second, move Gilmour back to centre on the "fourth" line : (Blouin Gilmour McKay). If they don't get the puck in deep this proposed trio would be hampered by a lack of speed, but get the puck in deep and they might get things going with their tenacity. Give Gilmour's spot to Kilger who has the speed to keep up with Petrov and the size to dig the puck out for Perreault.
Third, (my comic relief suggestion). Sit Dackell and put Audette in, with the way Bulis has been playing (taking shots, going to the net and creating chances) it might help to have a "finisher" on the ice to tap in some of the rebounds.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 12:03:56 GMT -5
Bulis-Juneau-Audette. Not a bad idea at all there. Isles really have one line that can score(Yashin one) and Bulis-Juneau can make up for Audette's bad defense.
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Post by KILLger on Nov 6, 2002 12:36:44 GMT -5
Kilger-Koivu-AudetteThey were good in the playoffs last year and I think we should split Zed and Koivu, as they are our sole offensive contributors on a nightly basis. Audette could jump start his season playing with Koivu and Kilger could make room for them both. Chad was also good when he first arrived here, when he was paired with Saku. Zednik-Gilmour-PetrovWith the way both Zednik and Petrov are playing, this should wake Doug up, they're all over the ice and Zed is producing well... it worked just fine last year, why not give it another try? Bulis-Juneau-DackellGreat defensive line and also capable of putting points on the board. Bulis is awesome on that line and if he keeps it up, he might be ready for 2nd line duty next year or nearing the end of this year. Czerkawski-Perreault-McKayBoth Czerkawski and Perreault are average skaters who like to float, playing McKay with them could give them more space, more in Czerkawski's case, to do whatever he wants offensively. McKay is also not affraid to go to the net or in the corners, that would ease Mariusz and Yanic's game.... I think. Dykhuis-BriseboisSince the season started, Dykhuis seems lost and makes bonehead plays. Hainsey is similar to Dykhuis (good size, speed) but a superior player, he could do well so if Dykhuis keeps up this sort of play, he should be the one who gets removed from the lineup, come Souray's return. Markov-RivetThey are great together and Markov seems ready to become our #1. He still makes some mistakes but wow, did he improve over the pas two years? Hainsey-TraverseWe really don't have much of a choice with Quintal out (anyway, that's who I'd use nevertheless... Quintal's -6 in 9 games and Hainsey is +5 since he's not with Quintal... Traverse doing OK, too). Hainsey needs to get a point, otherwise he risks to be the one who'll pay when Souray returns... he plays well but seems not so confident... where's the cocky guy we use to see in the pre-season? It was a great idea to bench him, wasn't it? HackettOsgood's struggling and Snow is being himself (average), Hackett could be a possibility for the Islanders so if we put him in net against them and that he steals the game, Mad Mike could fall in love with him and make a trade of his (in which he seems to like to overpay). Wiemer would look good in a Habs jersey, him or Scatchard...
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Post by KR on Nov 6, 2002 13:32:59 GMT -5
Not that these two changes would have been the difference against St. L. , as the Habs were outplyed in pretty much every aspect of the game, but MT has no excuse anymore for not playing Kilger and Audette. He said publicly that it was just a matter of time until they got their chance, but the team was going well. He can't make that claim after last night's fiasco. For Pete's sake, lets get Gilmour back at center. Give him a shooter (Audette) and some muscle (Kilger) to work with and team Perreault up with someone with some energy (Petrov).
Zednik Koivu Czerkawski Bulis Juneau Dackell Kilger Gilmour Audette McKay Perreault Petrov
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 13:38:27 GMT -5
we should know soon...usually the Habs announce who is starting in goal and who is scratched 30 hours before the game.
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Post by KILLger on Nov 6, 2002 13:43:38 GMT -5
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Nov 6, 2002 14:19:23 GMT -5
This is getting absurd.
The Theo call in particular.
You have a hot and unbeaten goaltender and you're playing a conference rival at home, where you desperately need a win, and yet he sits in favor of a guy who's struggling mightily (Carolina notwithstanding) with a 4.40 gaa and a save % around .840....
This is coaching? This is consistency? Gilmour cruises, but he plays. Kilger works, and sits. Hainsey can help on the pp, but they go with Rivet and Traverse. Theo sucks, but plays. Hackett sparkles, but sits. Now Audette gets his chance, after being humiliated despite having come back heroically last year and being a major contributor in the playoffs. What will that chance consist of? One game? Four shifts?
Let's be honest here: the only thing that Therrien has figured out is that the third line works, which is not so much an achievement as it is mere confirmation that he has heard that they're the best line from someone else. Beyond that, he's been appalling.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 6, 2002 16:43:12 GMT -5
I am not surprised about Audette. Let's hope we see a different Donald.
I am kind of surprised about Theodore. I guess they think facing a struggling thing is the best thing for him right now.
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