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Post by GARB08 on Nov 3, 2002 16:46:33 GMT -5
Just read this from thefourthperiod.com.
With Mike Ribeiro set to return from injury next week, La Presse reports winger Donald Audette may be on his way out of Montreal in order to make room, while goalie Jeff Hackett and forward Bill Lindsay may also be dealt shortly. The Canadiens are believed to be speaking with the New York Rangers in a deal surrounding Audette, however the NY Post reports that the Blueshirts have their eyes set on Mariusz Czerkawski, whom the Canadiens were trying to dump a week back. Although, with Czerkawski's latest surge on the Habs' first line (with Richard Zednik and Saku Koivu), TFP has learned that team may no longer by willing to deal the Polish winger. Montreal is seeking a sturdy left-handed defender, and Tomas Kloucek may fit that bill. What do you all think about this?
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Nov 3, 2002 16:51:36 GMT -5
As I say in another post, I don't think there's room for Ribeiro whether Audette's gone or not. There just isn't room for this guy. We've got a similarly sized centerman on the wing as it is (Gilmour), and he's not there because of our abundance of right wingers.
They should throw in Ribeiro. Our future would look better as a result.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 3, 2002 17:00:10 GMT -5
Expect a trade within a week.
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 3, 2002 17:04:58 GMT -5
Expect a trade within a week. Haven't we been saying that for three months now? The Rangers have some interesting possibilities. Kloucek would be a nice addition, especially for the long run, but in the short term his defensive miscues may be hard to take, especially for MT and Green. This is a guy who can't crack the New York Rangers, after all. Still, I would take him. I wouldn't mind Petr Nedved either. Sure, he ain't the most heartful guy in the universe, but as a winger on Perrault's side? I'd take that... Two guys who are probably untouchables, that I would really love to get, are Jamie Lundmark and Tom Poti. Man, if we could snare one of those guys (or, both, in my wildest dreams) I'd go nuts...
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 3, 2002 17:05:51 GMT -5
Nedved? oh god no...
Kloucek would be nice
Lundmark as well
Poti? the guy is softer than Brisebois..
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Post by jkr on Nov 3, 2002 17:06:27 GMT -5
Be careful what you read. If the source is Larry Brooks of the NY Post it is about as reliable as Al Strachan or Bruce Garrioch(Ottawa). I sometime think these guys are frustrated GM's. They propose trades that make no sense in terms of contract, player performance etc. & print it.
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Post by jkr on Nov 3, 2002 17:11:20 GMT -5
Kloucek would be an intersesting addition after that knee to knee hit on Bulis last season. I guess you don't have to like the guys you play with bit it helps.
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 3, 2002 17:12:30 GMT -5
Nedved? oh god no... Kloucek would be nice Lundmark as well Poti? the guy is softer than Brisebois.. Both Nedved and Poti are close to a point a game. Nedved, like Perrault, is always criticized, yet somehow always manages to rack up a tonne of points. Certainly better than Audette, or Czerkawski, and I'd argue Petrov as well. Poti is only 25, has tremendous size, great offensive abilities, and all the tools. Huge upgrade over Dykhuis, Traverse, and Quintal. Kloucek is a lot like Kasperitus, or Igor Ulanov, in that he'll go for the big hit, but doesn't really bring much else to the game (at the moment). He gets lost in his own zone, and his offense is neglible. Will also take bad penalties. Don't get me wrong, he would be a nice addition, but again, he can't crack the New York Rangers lineup. Dave Karpa, Slyvain Lefevbre and Dale Purinton beat him out. So expecting him to solve all our physical problems would be a stretch...
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 3, 2002 17:17:44 GMT -5
Both Nedved and Poti are close to a point a game. Nedved, like Perrault, is always criticized, yet somehow always manages to rack up a tonne of points. Certainly better than Audette, or Czerkawski, and I'd argue Petrov as well. Poti is only 25, has tremendous size, great offensive abilities, and all the tools. Huge upgrade over Dykhuis, Traverse, and Quintal. Nedved is a monster talent. No doubt. And that's why, IMO, the guy is a major underachiever. He should be a constant 35-40 goal, 80-90 point player and he isn't. But he would cost alot $$ wise and I'd imagine assets wise. Plus he's the kind of player MTL fans would love to hate. Now Poti is another great talent. But he is so soft. Scared of his own shadow. He'd cost us at least Hainsey if not more. Well when you have a veteran, very high priced team like the Rangers I guess you better play the high priced veterans instead of some young players who may make mistakes. I agree Kloucek needs time and I don't think MT and Green can live with more growing pains.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 3, 2002 17:39:22 GMT -5
Yvon Pedneault just said on CKAC the Rangers do have an interest for Chow...
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Post by PTH on Nov 3, 2002 18:01:51 GMT -5
Nedved is a monster talent. No doubt. And that's why, IMO, the guy is a major underachiever. He should be a constant 35-40 goal, 80-90 point player and he isn't. But he would cost alot $$ wise and I'd imagine assets wise. Plus he's the kind of player MTL fans would love to hate. Assets are the problem with Nedved..... even though he has some issues, he's the kind of guy who makes a team better overnight. I don't mind soft players if they contribute as much as Nedved does. As to being an underacheiver, who cares ? His contribution is worth acquiring him for.... the fact that he could have been a better player isn't a problem per se IMO
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Post by seventeen on Nov 3, 2002 18:44:58 GMT -5
Kloucek is a lot like Kasperitus, or Igor Ulanov, in that he'll go for the big hit, but doesn't really bring much else to the game (at the moment). He gets lost in his own zone, and his offense is neglible. Will also take bad penalties. Don't get me wrong, he would be a nice addition, but again, he can't crack the New York Rangers lineup. Dave Karpa, Slyvain Lefevbre and Dale Purinton beat him out. So expecting him to solve all our physical problems would be a stretch... Bear in mind that it's possible he hasn't fully recovered from his knee operation. That will slow you down, for sure. Kloucek was, according to various stories, a desired commodity, when other teams talked trade to the Rangers, before his injury. A tough hitting defenseman is a much desired asset. The key point is whether you believe his injury will heal fully and his performance will return to last year's and go from there.
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Post by legaspesien on Nov 3, 2002 19:13:29 GMT -5
It's all Saperlipopette started this morning by Larry Brooks sunday edition of the NY Post
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 3, 2002 19:42:23 GMT -5
Assets are the problem with Nedved..... even though he has some issues, he's the kind of guy who makes a team better overnight. I don't mind soft players if they contribute as much as Nedved does. As to being an underacheiver, who cares ? His contribution is worth acquiring him for.... the fact that he could have been a better player isn't a problem per se IMO www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=3927581 points in 743 games. Will soon be 31 years old. Last good year was with Dvorak and Hlavac 2 years ago. Has been bashed for lazy play with no heart. Why would we want such an underachiever? and he must make around 5+ million.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 3, 2002 19:42:54 GMT -5
It's all Saperlipopette started this morning by Larry Brooks sunday edition of the NY Post I agree. The guy is all BS most of the time.
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Post by Vichab on Nov 4, 2002 1:27:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't go anywhere near Nedved. He is exactly what the Habs do not need. He is a cancer with a bad attitude. He will never be on a winner.
Come to think of it i wouldn't go anywhere near the Rangers. They are a bunch of misfits and because of the carefree pay roll they are all over paid. why would we want to get saddled with one of their contracts? Certainly not for a player who can't even crack their useless line up.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Nov 4, 2002 8:01:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't go anywhere near Nedved either:
I like him, he's a big talented player that can be effective in any situation offensive/defensive/playmaking/scoring. He can play center and LW so in terms of hockey he would fit the bill right on the money here.
But since he isn't a spectacular player and he tends to have offensive slump, the Montreal fans would instantly hate him and he would become the new scapegoat almost overnight.
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