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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 25, 2002 15:32:36 GMT -5
as per RDS.ca
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Oct 25, 2002 15:39:17 GMT -5
What a shock.
I think Theo's going to have to wait for a road trip to Nashville before we can work him back in without conceding two points.
Right now things are clearer than they were last year, when the talk was of two number one goalies. Now we have one guy who's playing like a number one and another guy who's been too busy polishing his hardware (so to speak) to get ready for the season. And that, by the way, is what it is. Theo is a fundamentally sound goalie. He didn't win the vezina by sprawling around and being lucky: he won it by being square to the shooter, controlling rebounds, playing at the top of his crease, and by being really quick side to side. The reason his game isn't where it is has everything to do with the six inches....hopefully the six inches between his ears.
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Post by HFTO on Oct 25, 2002 15:55:58 GMT -5
Johnny I agree with you but in three of the games he has been hung out to dry bigtime. Even at the top of his game Theo may have prevented a couple goals at most in those games. The way this team has played thus far I'm not sure doing that would even inspire them. Hackett was great in the second against Philly did that rally these over paid bums!They responded by getting out shot 17- 6 in the 3rd.Its time everybody got their head screwed on. HFTO
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 25, 2002 15:58:34 GMT -5
Exactly Phil. Hackett was hung out to dry last night as well.
Tomorrow's game will be all about scoring first IMO. If the Sens score the first goal it could be a looong night.
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Oct 25, 2002 16:07:35 GMT -5
I don't agree that he was hung out to dry last night. I thought he looked soft on two of the four goals. This was not like the first loss to Philly, where Leclair and Recchi had clear lines to the net and/or rebounds.
The Primeau goal last night was soft, as well as the first of the Handzus pair. Theo also looked weak against Pittsburgh, where two if not all three of the goals were also soft (the Mario pass through the crease should've been stopped, and the goals by Kovalev were a result of being too deep in his crease on the second and just out to lunch on the first). He also almost kicked one into his own net against the Pens, when he thought he'd squeezed it in his pads, and he allowed about three horrendous rebounds.
I'm a goalie. I'm not quick to blame the goalie and I'm the first to try and look at the whole play leading up to the goal and what else was going on. To me, although the Habs have sucked in front of him for those games, he didn't keep them in it and in at least two of those games he was one of the main reasons the wheels fell off.
The effect of a soft goal on a team that's struggling is really severe.
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 25, 2002 16:10:35 GMT -5
I (the Mario pass through the crease should've been stopped). how? 3 Pens were all alone in front of the net waiting for it
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Oct 25, 2002 16:30:59 GMT -5
Part of a goaltender's job is to deny the centering pass. The fact that it came at the wide angle, from the corner, doesn't change anything. The puck came toward the goal and passed directly in front of Theo about two feet or so from the goal line. He's got to play it like a shot and stop it. He can't do what he did, which was simply hug the post and let it go by him. He was probably skittish about having let in the soft goal to Kovalev on the short side earlier in the game, which is why he was clinging to the post (a good idea) but he's got to play that as a shot on goal. It's better even to have it go back (via the rebound) in the direction it came from than to have it travel right through the crease, especially since we were in a 6 on 4 situation and he knows there are guys all around the goal crease..... Do I have to explain everything?
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 25, 2002 16:48:44 GMT -5
Do I have to explain everything? You need to see that play again. As I recall...3 Pens were in front of the net just waiting for a loose puck. Quintal was the only hab near by as Dackell was down while blocking that shot, Rivet was near mario and Juneau was somewhere else. Plus Mario's pass was to Morozov who was hanging out to the left of Theodore and if Theodore would have tried to intercept it he would have had trouble getting it because that was a great quick pass.
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Post by Andrew on Oct 25, 2002 16:57:53 GMT -5
Tomorrow's game will be all about scoring first IMO. If the Sens score the first goal it could be a looong night. Don't hold your breath: the Habs have yet to open the scoring, in a game, this season.
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Oct 25, 2002 17:08:25 GMT -5
You need to see that play again. As I recall...3 Pens were in front of the net just waiting for a loose puck. Quintal was the only hab near by as Dackell was down while blocking that shot, Rivet was near mario and Juneau was somewhere else. Plus Mario's pass was to Morozov who was hanging out to the left of Theodore and if Theodore would have tried to intercept it he would have had trouble getting it because that was a great quick pass. No, I don't need to see it again. I saw it three times. It was a hard pass but not as hard as most shots. He would not have had any trouble getting a leg or his stick on it if he'd been on his game and doing what he's supposed to do, which includes preventing passes like that from going straight through his crease allllllllllllllllll the way from the boards about 35 feet away. He was playing scared, which is a disaster in goaltending as in every other aspect of the game.
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Post by Viper on Oct 25, 2002 17:24:40 GMT -5
I agree JV that cross ice pass should have been cut off it was easily done and something you learn playing road hockey for crying out load.
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 25, 2002 17:48:37 GMT -5
*bangs head on keyboard*
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