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Post by UberCranky on Oct 22, 2002 21:51:57 GMT -5
I am not sure but I think that the Hab's are trying to match the powerhouse Maroons for power play supremacy.
I have not seen club be more futile in powerplay. Even on a 4 on 3 they manage 1 or 2 shots. Why?
One of the problems that I see is that the defenseman don't do ANYTHING with the puck when they get it at the point. Practically no creativity whatsoever. No defenseman trying to find a seam or trying to pull the box open. No forward parking in front of the net and taking punishment while driving the defenseman and goalie crazy. Nothing. An outside box with a player behind the net playing against a defensive box. Sheesh, I want to box their ears. The only upside is Markov who seams to find the net, yet even he does not get fancy out there. If it wasn't for Koivu and Zednik this team would look like AHLer's square dancing.
Is this team so scared of losing that they lost their creativity? Do they have any creativity? Are the defenseman only worried about "safe" hockey that they actually lose or tie games because everyone is more worried about not to be scored on then scoring?
Does anybody have any answers for a very frustrated fan?
NTW, I heard that the Montreal Police has sent out a n all points bulletin looking for Maruis Czerkawski and Donald Audette.
The cops description goes as follows:
This persons have disappeared from sight so much so that they are thought to be invisible. They were last seen on October 11th and they were wearing the Hab's uniform and skates. They are wanted for stealing over 5 million is salaries while masquerading as real hockey players. If you happen to see them at your local bar or pond hockey rink, please do not approach them for they could be dangerous. They have been known to drive Hab's fans to desperation. Last known associates are Brian Savage and Martin Rucinsky.
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 22, 2002 21:57:48 GMT -5
LOL!
It's simple:
We have too many similar players
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Post by Viper on Oct 22, 2002 22:02:16 GMT -5
HAHA i haven't even read you're post and i'm LMAO here how the hell did you come up with that headline ;D ;D
you always keep me Smiling HA
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Post by jkr on Oct 22, 2002 22:14:09 GMT -5
I think there is a fear of losing on OT but I think it is the coaches more than the players. Four on four hockey is for skaters, guys who can wheel a bit. Yet when we have a power play someone with some offensive ability like Hainsey rides the bench.
I know Therrien may be trying to get players like Audete going by giving them PP time but his job is to win.
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Post by HFTO on Oct 23, 2002 7:36:48 GMT -5
Now we know how old that underwear your wearing is! Somethings never change. HFTO
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Post by Doc Holliday on Oct 23, 2002 7:42:32 GMT -5
NTW, I heard that the Montreal Police has sent out a n all points bulletin looking for Maruis Czerkawski and Donald Audette. The cops description goes as follows: This persons have disappeared from sight so much so that they are thought to be invisible. They were last seen on October 11th and they were wearing the Hab's uniform and skates. They are wanted for stealing over 5 million is salaries while masquerading as real hockey players. If you happen to see them at your local bar or pond hockey rink, please do not approach them for they could be dangerous. They have been known to drive Hab's fans to desperation. Last known associates are Brian Savage and Martin Rucinsky. You can certainly add Mr Gilmour to complete the picture HA. But maybe we should just get used to Dougie waiting for January before showing up. Maybe he's thinking retirement again (it's been what 3 months that we haven't heard about Gilmour retiring?)? Maybe he's tired and wants a little vacation like he did midway into the season last year? Maybe he wants Savard to re-open yet once more his contract ? It is really scary when vets and leaders like Audette and Gilmour mail in their performance... Luckily Juneau and Koivu are there to show the way... As for Chow, well, I told an Islanders fan that I am really disapointed with that player and I think he's still laughing... Between two bursts of laughter and hickups he managed to say: "...just why the heck did you figure you could put your hands on a 30 goals scorer by trading a 4th line stalled prospect...". Well... I said... Because Andre Savard is a genuis ? At that point he was rolling on the floor holding his belly... "...Do you think we could get Asham back, we kinda need the intensity he brings..." I said. He was laughing even harder "...please... please... stop!.. I can't take it anymore..." Were his last words before I left the room.
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 23, 2002 7:50:22 GMT -5
Is Gilmour missing Zednik? ditto for Petrov?
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Post by Doc Holliday on Oct 23, 2002 13:16:28 GMT -5
Is Gilmour missing Zednik? ditto for Petrov? MT kept doing that last year, break working combination to try and kick start others. More often then not, everyone would just go cold. Incidentally Therrien did it a lot last year to try and kick start... Gilmour. Zed and Koivu could be a great combo in Montreal for years to come, I would not touch it but rather let the chemistry get stronger and stronger. I say stick Gilmour with Audette and let them get out of their slump together. When Audette first arrived here last year, he got paired with Killer and it worked good.
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Oct 23, 2002 13:24:04 GMT -5
I'll say this much about Michel Therrien: I don't envy him his job right now. Finding the right combinations is not going to be easy and he'll be struggling with these decisions all season. Zed/Koivu makes sense and so does Juneau/Dackell. After that, it's pretty much wide open. Is Bulis the guy to add some bump and grind to the second line? Should Kilger play on the first (in Mackay's spot) on the second or the fourth? What do you do with all the cheese-products like Audette and Czerk? How do you get Petrov producing? Do you want offence from Gilmour or not? How do you get Perreault on an offensive trio that doesn't suck defensively? What about playing bigger teams? Does Perreault go to the fourth line? Who with? Etc, etc.,
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 23, 2002 15:49:00 GMT -5
MT kept doing that last year, break working combination to try and kick start others. More often then not, everyone would just go cold. Incidentally Therrien did it a lot last year to try and kick start... Gilmour. Zed and Koivu could be a great combo in Montreal for years to come, I would not touch it but rather let the chemistry get stronger and stronger. I say stick Gilmour with Audette and let them get out of their slump together. When Audette first arrived here last year, he got paired with Killer and it worked good. Same here. Like you said before, last year the players who played with Zednik did well, while the others who didn't were cold. We are seeing the same thing this year as Koivu is on fire playing with Zed while Gilmour/Petrov are nowhere to be found. Gilmour-Audi worked when Audette first came here...in fact, Gilmour started to turn it around once Audette came on board. But that leaves Chow with Perreault and that is kinda of scary if you don't have toughness with them.
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Post by JacquesInFL on Oct 23, 2002 17:19:04 GMT -5
JV, you're on the mark about MT being in an unenviable situation for designing two more quality lines. As you say, it's not hard to see: six guys -- two centres who are small, slow and vulnerable defensively, three RWs (all rather one-dimensional) and Chad Kilger (who can't get enough icetime or consistent mates). So, no matter how you call it, one line is extremely weak defensively. For instance, you think Hitch might be smiling at the thought of matching Primeau line against Perreault & Audette?
Let's face it, Habs lines a little old, not so fast and very soft. This quandry can be partially ameliorated if Gilmour finds his legs, Yanic and Donald compete harder at both ends and Czerk finds spark. But what is truly wrong with these lines is ultimately only going to be addressed through personnel change(s).
As for moving Bulis away from JJ & AD. Let's remember Jan is the youngest forward we dress each night and I would keep him away from struggling centres like Perreault & Killer. I'd bet JB would be fine with Zed & Saku since he is close to Zed and Saku could elevate the play of a talented youngster.
And the PP...this is just depressing. I sort of like it when a coach pulls all the regular PP and sees if some other guys can execute the basic principles of fast support on shot-in puck, movement once you have it and shooting on-net at a well-screened goalie.
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