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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 16:16:27 GMT -5
No Hainsey, Balej, or Bouillon, but they said Bouillon would be back Tuesday.
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 16:24:11 GMT -5
1-0 Dogs Semonov 2 (Gratton, Bergeron)
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 16:47:01 GMT -5
Wow dogs are running away with this one. 4-0 and still in the 1st, the barons changed goalies now.
Gratton 13 (Rita, Bergeron)
Hossa 12 PP(Allen, Ryder)
Dicasmero (Hinze, Ryder)
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 16:57:41 GMT -5
5-0 now. Pisiani (Komisarek Bergeron) Dogs to start the 2nd on the PP.
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 8, 2002 17:03:27 GMT -5
Funny how Ward has started slumping, at exactly the same time Andre Savard said he didn't think he would ever be an NHLer...
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 17:10:09 GMT -5
Funny how Ward has started slumping, at exactly the same time Andre Savard said he didn't think he would ever be an NHLer... Funny how Gratton has started scoring more at exactly the same time Andre Savard said he didn't think he would ever be an NHLer...  |
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 17:13:58 GMT -5
Salmelainen 3 PP (Komisarek, Hinze) 6-0 in the 2nd.
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 8, 2002 17:15:16 GMT -5
Funny how Gratton has started scoring more at exactly the same time Andre Savard said he didn't think he would ever be an NHLer... Is Gratton scoring more? Or is he scoring at the same pace? The guy was 2nd behind Ward after all... |
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Post by Patty Roy on Dec 8, 2002 17:27:13 GMT -5
Funny how Ward has started slumping, at exactly the same time Andre Savard said he didn't think he would ever be an NHLer... What did Savard say? Got a link? |
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 17:39:09 GMT -5
Is Gratton scoring more? Or is he scoring at the same pace? The guy was 2nd behind Ward after all... Well he's a few ahead of Ward now. He's got 4 pts tonight as Ward has 1 goal. Its 10-1 now. Carpentier 1 (Hinz) Beauchemin 3 (Gratton) Ward (Rita, Gratton) Bergeron (Dicasmero) |
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Post by legaspesien on Dec 8, 2002 18:08:58 GMT -5
Box Score
AHL FINAL 1ST 2ND 3RD TOTAL
--- --- --- -----
CLEVELAND 0 1 0 1
HAMILTON 5 5 5 15 FINAL
GOAL SCORING:
1ST PRD: HAM - (PP) ALEXEI SEMENOV 2 (MARC-ANDRE BERGERON, BENOIT
GRATTON) 6:56
HAM - BENOIT GRATTON 13 (JANI RITA, MARC-ANDRE BERGERON)
10:07
HAM - (PP) MARCEL HOSSA 12 (BOBBY ALLEN, MICHAEL RYDER)
13:34
HAM - NATE DICASMIRRO 3 (CHAD HINZ, MICHAEL RYDER) 13:49
HAM - FERNANDO PISANI 9 (MIKE KOMISAREK, MARC-ANDRE
BERGERON) 19:53
2ND PRD: HAM - (PP) TONY SALMELAINEN 3 (MIKE KOMISAREK, CHAD HINZ)
0:39
HAM - FRANCOIS BEAUCHEMIN 3 (BENOIT GRATTON) 3:01
HAM - BENJAMIN CARPENTIER 1 (CHAD HINZ) 9:11
CLE - GARRETT PROSOFSKY 1 (PAT RISSMILLER) 11:14
HAM - JASON WARD 14 (JANI RITA, BENOIT GRATTON) 15:30
HAM - MARC-ANDRE BERGERON 2 (NATE DICASMIRRO) 16:06
3RD PRD: HAM - (PP) BENJAMIN CARPENTIER 2 (JARRET STOLL, MARC-ANDRE
BERGERON) 5:16
HAM - JANI RITA 9 (MIKE KOMISAREK, CHAD HINZ) 7:11
HAM - ALEXEI SEMENOV 3 (FRANCOIS BEAUCHEMIN) 7:59
HAM - JANI RITA 10 (FRANCOIS BEAUCHEMIN, CHAD HINZ) 12:46
HAM - CHAD HINZ 2 (UNASSISTED) 16:17
POWER-PLAY CONVERSIONS: CLE - 0 OF 3, HAM - 4 OF 7.
SHOTS ON GOAL: 1ST 2ND 3RD TOTAL
--- --- --- -----
CLE 10 12 5 27
HAM 17 18 12 47
GOALIES: CLE - VESA TOSKALA
HAM - TY CONKLIN
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 18:22:49 GMT -5
Well its 14-1 now. Komisarek has 3 a's, Gratton 1 g 3 a, Beauchemin 1g 2 a Ward 1g Hossa 1g Ryder 2a
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 18:30:18 GMT -5
15-1 now. wow
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 8, 2002 20:55:29 GMT -5
Jesus Christ what a team  15 freakin' 1 That was like Canada vs France last year in the WJC Gotta love Komi ;D PR, he said ''I doubt Ward and Gratton will be more than 4th liners in the NHL'' |
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Post by KILLger on Dec 8, 2002 20:59:46 GMT -5
Which is true. I doubt Gratton will ever be more than a pest depth player/4th liner C.
Ward could become a third liner... but fourth liner should be about right.
It's not as if he said that they have no future.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 8, 2002 21:21:58 GMT -5
Which is true. I doubt Gratton will ever be more than a pest depth player/4th liner C. Ward could become a third liner... but fourth liner should be about right. It's not as if he said that they have no future. Yes, but seems to me you don't say that in public...unless the question was ''what do you think they can do in the NHL?'' |
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 8, 2002 23:49:08 GMT -5
It's not as if he said that they have no future. Actually, I thought that was exactly what he said. I understood that somebody asked him why he didn't call up Ward and Gratton, and he answered that they weren't good enough to be in the NHL, and would be nothing more than AHLers (paraphrasing)... |
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Post by Patty Roy on Dec 9, 2002 0:39:47 GMT -5
PR, he said ''I doubt Ward and Gratton will be more than 4th liners in the NHL'' But where is everyone getting this from? Was it a TV or radio interview? Also, did Savard say that he felt Ward and Gratton would not be any better than 4th liners in the NHL today, or ever? I know these kinds of statements tend to get twisted around on the net...somebody reporting something not quite accurately and then it gets worse as its passed along...so any kind of link would be extremely helpful. |
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Post by Patty Roy on Dec 9, 2002 0:41:27 GMT -5
Yes, but seems to me you don't say that in public...unless the question was ''what do you think they can do in the NHL?'' That's just it...you've got these two young guys who are playing their hearts out for your AHL club, and to just come out for no reason and say they have no future just seems like a foolish thing to do (if that is infact what Savard said)... |
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 9, 2002 9:09:15 GMT -5
But where is everyone getting this from? Was it a TV or radio interview? Also, did Savard say that he felt Ward and Gratton would not be any better than 4th liners in the NHL today, or ever? I know these kinds of statements tend to get twisted around on the net...somebody reporting something not quite accurately and then it gets worse as its passed along...so any kind of link would be extremely helpful. It was in the Journal de Montreal. The same article where he badmouthed Ribeiro. KILLger read it completely so he must know more about it. |
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