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Post by GMan77 on Apr 6, 2003 16:37:00 GMT -5
Comeback win in the 9th... 3 run bomb by Liefer!!
wohoo!! ;D
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Apr 6, 2003 16:39:32 GMT -5
Did someone say bomb?  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 6, 2003 16:44:24 GMT -5
I'm trying to follow the Expos as much as I can this year. I'm even trying to organize a trip to Montreal with some of the guys from work; waiting for a double-header.
I'm also scooping up as many Expos sports cards as I can. I'm missing a few big-name cards from the 70's (Carter Rookie), but my collection is in pretty decent shape. I picked up a Randy Johnson Rookie last year for 6-bucks. I didn't pay much more for a Larry Walker rookie either. I can't understand why Larry doesn't sell well in the States; odd. In fact the most I've paid for an Expos card was a mint Andre Dawson RC; $15(Cdn). Not too bad I dare say.
In addition to a Carter rookie, I'm also looking for a Raines RC as well. I'll be searching ebay.ca for one. If any of you guys happen to hear of one in reasonably good shape, please let me know.
I was thinking of starting one on the Blue Jays, but I was fortunate to have sobered up rather quickly. I was happy when the Jays won back-to-back WS, but I never could get on that Blue Jay band wagon for some reason.
Cheers.
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Post by GMan77 on Apr 6, 2003 16:45:26 GMT -5
Did someone say bomb? Yeah that's Canada's new plan now that US relations have cooled... a pre-emptive strike of our own!! hehe We bomb New York then go hide in Puerto Rico, lay low for a few weeks. LOL |
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Post by MPLABBE on Apr 7, 2003 21:44:59 GMT -5
Comeback win in the 9th... 3 run bomb by Liefer!! wohoo!! ;D damn how could I miss this thread?  yes sir...4-2 record...going to Wrigley to face the Cubbies starting tomorrow..the starting pitching is strong..the offence appears to be good enough...if the bullpen holds and they can survive this ridiculous schedule...we have a chance LETS GO EXPOS! |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 7, 2003 23:31:51 GMT -5
What is basebool............basebill........baseball? Can you eat it? Drive it? Have sex with it? If it isn't hockey, it's uhmmm. it's not hockey.  |
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Post by MPLABBE on Apr 13, 2003 17:33:08 GMT -5
holy sh*t is this Expos team amazing ;D 8-4 record now.... ;D |
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Post by PTH on Apr 13, 2003 17:38:07 GMT -5
What is basebool............basebill........baseball? Can you eat it? Drive it? Have sex with it? If it isn't hockey, it's uhmmm. it's not hockey. If it's not hockey then why care ? Or even discuss it ? |
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Post by booblancrouge on Apr 13, 2003 17:06:43 GMT -5
I'm not going to get my hopes up on the Spos until they can continue playing like they are through June and July. They usually drop off during those months.
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Post by MC Habber on Apr 14, 2003 19:32:58 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, for those of you who live in or near Montreal, how do you feel about the Expos playing some of their 'home' games in Puerto Rico? It doesn't really affect me becuase I'm in BC, but if I lived in Montreal I'd probably not be too happy about it.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 15, 2003 0:52:52 GMT -5
They're 8-0 in a warm ballpark. What can you say?
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 15, 2003 7:49:04 GMT -5
And yet, they only drew 13,000 for yesterday's game... Seems baseball's attendance problems aren't confined just to Montreal...
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Apr 15, 2003 8:04:23 GMT -5
And yet, they only drew 13,000 for yesterday's game... Seems baseball's attendance problems aren't confined just to Montreal... Can't expect much more for a furrin team. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Apr 15, 2003 10:36:53 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, for those of you who live in or near Montreal, how do you feel about the Expos playing some of their 'home' games in Puerto Rico? It doesn't really affect me becuase I'm in BC, but if I lived in Montreal I'd probably not be too happy about it. It's a joke. Like BC said they only got 13 K yesterday to see a hometown hero(Vazquez) on the mound facing a hometown legend(Alomar). They are only expecting 11-12 K per game (in other words about 60% capacity) for the Braves series. How long until it dips under 10 K ? *bad word* Selig  |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 15, 2003 20:23:15 GMT -5
I was very surprised to read that capacity in the Puerto Rico stadium is about 16,000. They still expect to gross about $6Mm for the games there, about $4mm more than in Montreal. Wow, was attendance that bad in Montreal? I mean, the ticket prices in Puerto Rican lira must be pretty high.
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Post by MPLABBE on Apr 15, 2003 20:30:33 GMT -5
it's actually 18-20 K the max capacity in that stadium.
the thing is about MLB's estimate...they see the Expos avg of last year(I think it was 10K per game) and figure they can do better in PR...but the games they put in PR(Mets, Braves, Phillies, world champion Angels,etc) would have probably been somewhat big draws in MTL as well...
also the ticket prices are very high in PR..
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Post by MPLABBE on Apr 26, 2003 16:50:20 GMT -5
well them Expos are now 15-9 after yet another win this afternoon. Macias the hero.
God if only the Habs could take a page from the Spos book and see you need to devote quite some time to rebuild and that will give you a good club. No quick fixes are possible.
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Post by MC Habber on May 1, 2003 16:12:46 GMT -5
But the Spos pretty much start every year as one of the top teams in baseball and then tank....
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Post by MPLABBE on May 1, 2003 16:33:21 GMT -5
This year they are for real. Their starting pitching depth is unreal. And Vlad hasn't even started to hit like he can! |
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Post by MC Habber on May 1, 2003 21:32:28 GMT -5
I hope so, but I'm not exactly blown away by their pitchers. I haven't really been following them this year since there's no tv and no radio.
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Post by MPLABBE on May 1, 2003 22:07:41 GMT -5
actually they are on the radio but the TV (hello RDS) thing is just flat out ridiculous.
The starting pitching is deep, talented and young....even if injuries start to hit Spos can stay afloat because they have like 8 or 9 guys who can start on the team and in AAA.
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Post by MC Habber on May 2, 2003 13:19:34 GMT -5
As far as I know, I can't get their radio broadcasts out here unless I pay  and I probably wouldn't listen to enough games to make it worthwhile. |
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 29, 2014 7:59:34 GMT -5
I did a search and found this thread...after watching this weekend. Any chance the Expos return?
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Post by blny on Mar 29, 2014 11:10:15 GMT -5
IMO, they never should have left. The league gave up on them. Still, they won't come back while the Big O is the only stadium option. They need something new, smaller, and closer to town.
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 29, 2014 14:49:57 GMT -5
IMO, they never should have left. The league gave up on them. Still, they won't come back while the Big O is the only stadium option. They need something new, smaller, and closer to town. I have mixed opinions on the Expos Nation stuff. Nice to see 46,000 at a game this weekend but can't help but wonder where they were when the team needed them?? I understand after Loria purchased the team because he ruined what was left. But attendance sagged even during the last of the Bronfman years and when the consortium group owned the team. Even the Quebec government refused to help build a new stadium. Lucien Bouchard wanted nothing to do with them. Now, mere 10 years later, there's this big push for return. |
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Post by blny on Mar 29, 2014 16:51:43 GMT -5
IMO, they never should have left. The league gave up on them. Still, they won't come back while the Big O is the only stadium option. They need something new, smaller, and closer to town. I have mixed opinions on the Expos Nation stuff. Nice to see 46,000 at a game this weekend but can't help but wonder where they were when the team needed them?? I understand after Loria purchased the team because he ruined what was left. But attendance sagged even during the last of the Bronfman years and when the consortium group owned the team. Even the Quebec government refused to help build a new stadium. Lucien Bouchard wanted nothing to do with them. Now, mere 10 years later, there's this big push for return. There's no doubt they were far more fickle about baseball than they were anything else. I think it really got bad after the work stoppage in 1994. They had a championship caliber team, only to have the rest of the season canceled. After that, the weak dollar and being lumped in with small markets because of it meant that a revolving door of quality players got shipped out the moment they got too expensive. The stadium was a huge issue too. It was a terrible place to watch a game live. A lot was always made of the location too, being in the east end. Montreal has great public transit, and I've been to the Big O, and surrounding area. It's not a long trip from the downtown core, but it is a trip. They could play a season or two in the O while building a replacement, but it would have to be in the short term plans to replace. A better atmosphere, even if in that area, will bring more fans. A team not continually dismantled will bring more fans. 30-40000 seats. Retractable roof. I think the hardest part will be finding an owner. If the Molson family hadn't bought the Habs back perhaps ... but how many other Montreal families with deep pockets are there? |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 29, 2014 18:22:00 GMT -5
There's no doubt they were far more fickle about baseball than they were anything else. "Fickle" may not apply to Expos fans. Just trying to be an Expos fan, a loyal one, was hard enough. Year after year of watching good players get traded away for (good) prospects. The Expos, especially after '94, basically became a farm system that developed players for the rest of the league. Case in point. Once the lockout was announced it only took about a week to more Kenny Hill (our top starter), John Wetland (one of the best relievers in baseball) and Marquis Grissom (an all-star centre fielder). (anyone wanting to confirm that please go ahead. This is from memory) As an aside, there's a conspiracy theory out there that MLB called the lockout to prevent the World Championship from going north of the border for the third-straight year. The Blue Jays had won back-to-back championships and baseball was losing a lot of support in the US. The theory is that the lockout was called so as not to lose any more (revenues) south of the border. Check this out when you have the time. Bill Lee explains (around the one-minute mark) why baseball failed in Montreal in the early 80's. It later failed for a number of reasons, the main one being former owner, Jeff Loria. All you had to do was say something negative about the organization and you were moved out quickly. Dustin Hermanson was, at the time, our best starter. He mentioned on a radio talk show something Loria didn't like and he was moved out in about a week. Expos bench boss, Filipe Alou, who I thought was one of the best managers in baseball at the time received the same fate not long after. BC filled me in a few years back and I never really forgot the magnitude of pettiness that summed up the departure of the Expos from Montreal. Anything that had an Expos logo on it, photo, jerseys, computer files ... it got so petty that it actually came down to an argument as to who would get a life-sized cardboard cutout of Vlad Guerrero. We talked a bit about Loria, but here's a clip that might explain why the Expos could possibly have been world champions for three consecutive years. I think we saw this clip in another discussion, but it's Bill Lee's take on why the Expos failed. He starts talking about them around the one-minute mark. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 29, 2014 18:39:36 GMT -5
IMO, they never should have left. The league gave up on them. Still, they won't come back while the Big O is the only stadium option. They need something new, smaller, and closer to town. I have mixed opinions on the Expos Nation stuff. Nice to see 46,000 at a game this weekend but can't help but wonder where they were when the team needed them?? I understand after Loria purchased the team because he ruined what was left. But attendance sagged even during the last of the Bronfman years and when the consortium group owned the team. Even the Quebec government refused to help build a new stadium. Lucien Bouchard wanted nothing to do with them. Now, mere 10 years later, there's this big push for return. Jeff Loria originally stated that he was committed to keeping the team in Montreal. However, from what I remember he did try to move them, anyway. Where things really get fishy is when he wanted to purchase the Marlins. He still had the Expos and he couldn't own two teams. He was also $50 million short to buy the Marlins. At this point, Bud Selig arranged for MLB to purchase the Expos. He then opened his commissioner's coffers and loaned Loria the $50 million he needed. Attendance came into it later. Loria realized that there was a good chance the Expos would have more attendance over the year, than the Marlins would. Loria ended up buying every spare seat he could for the final Florida four-game home stand, just to have the books reflect that the Marlins weren't last in attendance. I hope I got those stories are correct. I didn't look any of them up and I tried to remember them the best I could. Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Mar 29, 2014 19:48:59 GMT -5
No doubt, Loria was a greasy guy.
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 29, 2014 20:23:06 GMT -5
I have mixed opinions on the Expos Nation stuff. Nice to see 46,000 at a game this weekend but can't help but wonder where they were when the team needed them?? I understand after Loria purchased the team because he ruined what was left. But attendance sagged even during the last of the Bronfman years and when the consortium group owned the team. Even the Quebec government refused to help build a new stadium. Lucien Bouchard wanted nothing to do with them. Now, mere 10 years later, there's this big push for return. Jeff Loria originally stated that he was committed to keeping the team in Montreal. However, from what I remember he did try to move them, anyway. Where things really get fishy is when he wanted to purchase the Marlins. He still had the Expos and he couldn't own two teams. He was also $50 million short to buy the Marlins. At this point, Bud Selig arranged for MLB to purchase the Expos. He then opened his commissioner's coffers and loaned Loria the $50 million he needed. Attendance came into it later. Loria realized that there was a good chance the Expos would have more attendance over the year, than the Marlins would. Loria ended up buying every spare seat he could for the final Florida four-game home stand, just to have the books reflect that the Marlins weren't last in attendance. I hope I got those stories are correct. I didn't look any of them up and I tried to remember them the best I could. Cheers. I see it as near impossible to get them back now. You need a new stadium, expansion fees will run 500 million. No owners around Montreal with that kind of money |
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