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Post by Cranky on Jul 29, 2003 21:48:31 GMT -5
Take this test and publish the results. Here are my rersults:  This is the site: www.lp.org/quiz/ |
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Post by PTH on Jul 31, 2003 18:03:57 GMT -5
Can't get the image location for some reason.... my red dot is on the "a" in "liberal", so I'm quite a ways from you, HA. Edit: Finally got it.  You don't have to be from Old Europe to be left-leaning.... maybe you just have to speak French    |
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Post by PTH on Jul 31, 2003 18:09:04 GMT -5
That web site has a very simplistic view of the world though....
You're either a communist or a true American.... capitalism solves all ills according to them....
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 31, 2003 19:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Jul 31, 2003 20:56:14 GMT -5
That web site has a very simplistic view of the world though.... You're either a communist or a true American.... capitalism solves all ills according to them.... I know it is somewhat simplistic........ I am not surprised that you, Al and I are so radically apart. I expected that much from our posted views. In order to post the picture of your graph, left click on the graph and look up the properties. Copy the address and then put in where it says “text”. If you are confused, just copy and paste in your post what I wrote below THEN copy and paste the address of the graph where it says "text". [ img] text [ /img] <-----copy and past this in your post then add the address where it says text. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 31, 2003 22:13:24 GMT -5
 Centrists favor selective government intervention and emphasize practical solutions to current problems. They tend to keep an open mind on new issues. Many centrists feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty. |
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Post by The Habsome One on Jul 31, 2003 23:34:55 GMT -5
I am Centrist, hear me roar!   |
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Post by The New Guy on Aug 1, 2003 10:21:40 GMT -5
 Who'd thunk it? |
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Post by mic on Aug 1, 2003 10:43:09 GMT -5
 Well, well, well... must be my "old europe" side |
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Post by MC Habber on Aug 1, 2003 18:34:39 GMT -5
I'm surprised at mine....  I consider myself to be fairly left-wing. |
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Post by mic on Aug 2, 2003 5:24:16 GMT -5
If politic is nothing more than ten questions, then why am I not president ? Or at least minister ? Something must be wrong. mic for president ! |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Aug 2, 2003 5:59:45 GMT -5
If politic is nothing more than ten questions, then why am I not president ? Or at least minister ? Something must be wrong. mic for president ! This test mimics the depth of George W Bush's decision making processes. Which is what makes it fun. As an authoritarian liberal, i.e., socialist, I must denounce your unveiled grab at power. |
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Post by mic on Aug 3, 2003 4:29:27 GMT -5
This test mimics the depth of George W Bush's decision making processes. Which is what makes it fun. Well... At least it wasn't me who said it And as a future chosen president, I must say that I probably won't care much. Ahhh la politique, que c'est bien lorsque c'est bien mené. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Aug 3, 2003 8:18:12 GMT -5
 THF |
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Post by Thomas on Aug 4, 2003 19:10:18 GMT -5
I did the one at www.politicalcompass.org/Its nice because you can compare your results with those of famous world leaders. Got Libetarian Left, right next to Jean Chretien |
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Post by HFFM on Aug 5, 2003 21:39:54 GMT -5
I came up as fully entrenched in the "left liberal" sector.
While that was a fun test, it was certainly a bit too simplistic in its methodology. There are way too many variables involved with each issue to simply say "agree, maybe or disagree" for each question.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Aug 5, 2003 22:57:22 GMT -5
I came up as fully entrenched in the "left liberal" sector. While that was a fun test, it was certainly a bit too simplistic in its methodology. There are way too many variables involved with each issue to simply say "agree, maybe or disagree" for each question. Are you French or German, or somethin' like that? |
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Post by Habsasin on Aug 7, 2003 20:11:03 GMT -5
I did the one at www.politicalcompass.org/Its nice because you can compare your results with those of famous world leaders. Got Libetarian Left, right next to Jean Chretien I think this test is much more accurate. The Libertarian quiz seems to shift everyone who is more Center towards the Libertarian side. "...Here you go, you're Libertarian, vote for us next time..". By the way, I was next to Jean Chretien as well. Quite terrifying  |
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Post by The Habsome One on Aug 7, 2003 22:40:14 GMT -5
I think this test is much more accurate. The Libertarian quiz seems to shift everyone who is more Center towards the Libertarian side. "...Here you go, you're Libertarian, vote for us next time..". By the way, I was next to Jean Chretien as well. Quite terrifying I don't think the politicalcompass.org test is accurate at all. My red dot has no business being even slightly in the left: This is where I belong: In reality, I can never see myself voting for a Liberal or Socialist government. IMO, liberals are fiscally irresponsible and will say anything to get elected. Socialists expect to have everything for nothing. The conservatives here in Canada have no solid federal leaders. I'm not sure I will even vote in the next election...  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 10, 2003 10:53:29 GMT -5
Right on the "60-20" hashmarks of the left liberal side.
Cheers.
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Post by PTH on Aug 10, 2003 15:28:04 GMT -5
IMO, liberals are fiscally irresponsible and will say anything to get elected. Socialists expect to have everything for nothing. If your mind is already made up, then of course their arguments won't mean much. The Liberals have really been acting as conservatives since they got elected, so looking at party names means squat. And no one expects to get everything for nothing - they expect things to be shared between all, rich and poor. In which case, you deserve to get whichever government you get; if there are no "big-name" parties you support, go and vote for some small party that has a nice platform. Not voting leads to extremists (Bush, Hitler, etc) taking power based on a small group of convinced electors. I voted green party myself at the last provincial elections. (and yes, the Bush-Hitler link is meant to bait people into responding) |
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Post by PTH on Aug 10, 2003 15:44:16 GMT -5
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41
Closer to Nelson Mandela than to anyone else.
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Post by The Habsome One on Aug 10, 2003 20:14:30 GMT -5
If your mind is already made up, then of course their arguments won't mean much. Whose arguments...the Liberals?? Be serious--their arguments (and promises) don't mean anything to me because they don't even mean anything to them. The federal picture is a real mess, for sure. ...rich and poor, hard-working and lazy, etc. Years ago, part-time work (order selector, "box getter/lifter") I did on the side of my university studies required me to be part of a union. Working and talking with the full-time Teamsters, I saw this expectation for equal sharing you speak about. Provincially, I voted for Mike Harris. And I'd do so again if he didn't quit. ... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 10, 2003 21:34:05 GMT -5
In reality, I can never see myself voting for a Liberal or Socialist government. Actually, before I joined the service I voted for Stephen Lewis and the NDP here in Ontario. (Good gosh if they knew that I probably wouldn't have made it through the screening process!). I still think that Stephen Lewis was probably one of the finest politicians we've had in Ontario. I can remember some very internationally strong liberal governments. However, this one ain't one of them. I figure this government could have been much stronger, but they simply didn't have the leadership. Will Paul Martin be the saviour? His constant lobbying for the PM's chair has me a tad concerned as to where his priorities are. Sure he'll have a grip on the country's finances and that will be a good thing. But, he was caught in '91 and was caught again recently secretly lobbying for the PM office. Who knows, he might be a pretty good PM. And no doubt he will at least in the short-term; I mean, who wouldn't look good immediately after "I-want-to-be-elected-to-a-third-term" Chretien? Add the constant media bombardment of him and the public has had their minds made up for them. We have people in this country who have worked hard almost all of their lives and are greatful for what they have. Unfortunately, evey country with any social programs has people who feel it is their right to have the government provide a living for them from birth to the grave. They used to. Joe Clarke and Jean Charest come to mind immediately. At one point, Charest was on his way to being a future PM. However, the Canadian public was thirsty for a change and rather than face the music, Brian Mulrooney stepped down knowing he was going to lose by a landslide. Kim Campbell didn't help matters. But, to be fair to her, the press had her elected before the leadership convention was even held. Still, she actually facilitated the party's slide. I don't know if the conservatives will ever recover to the level they were once at. I like PTH's Hitler/Bush, et al, reference. There's really no better way of preventing them from taking office (no JFK references please). I was once told, if you don't vote, you don't have a say. Rubbish! Anyone who has their wages garnished under the name "taxes" has a right to contribute. Why is it that you may obstain from voting? Because you've probably researched enough that you feel there just isn't much to vote for. However, most voters are basically sheep insomuch as there just aren't enough people willing to attend election debates, or take the time to read over the party platforms. Why is this politician a jerk? Because "everyone" in the pub thinks the same. They'll vote for whoever talks loudest, or whoever talks last. As a result, we rarely vote new politicians into office, rather, we kick the old ones out. Sad, but that's the way it is in our country. Cheers. |
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Post by Montrealer on Aug 14, 2003 22:13:10 GMT -5
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.18
Closest on the chart to Dalai Lama Socially, Jean Chretien Economically.
Apparently, I'm close to the Green party (!) even though I've always thought of myself as pro-capatalist, with a heavy social conscience. Of course, my Economic left/right does reflect that, but I'm surprised how libertarian I am socially.
Then again, when I think about my position on the major social issues of the day, I guess I'm not all THAT surprised.
Hmph.
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Post by Kareem on Aug 15, 2003 17:28:25 GMT -5
In both tests I was a left wing liberal and by far.
That can be easily said about every party.
Anyway don't ever expect anything from political parties simply because they work to be reelected. Thats the big problem with democratie EX: Brian Mulroney once refused to try a program that would cost 50G but would save 150G in the long run while modernizing our energy sources and reducing pollution by 30%(i think its 30). He refused, the reason: he didnt want someone else to get the credit, it didnt help him at all. He thought it would get the debt too high and prevent him from being reelected, which he didnt anyway that moron. Thats why Im a bit of a Monarchist, a great Monarch can do much more then a great PM or President, but it would have to be a Constitutionnal Elective Monarchy so it would prevent disasters like Neron, Jean II, Edward II, Philippe de Valois and much more.
It would also prevent too conservative leaders.
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