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Post by Forum Ghost on Oct 1, 2003 0:26:21 GMT -5
The latest on Theo-gate: MONTREAL (CP) - Montreal Canadiens goaltender Jose Theodore's father, uncle and four half-brothers were among 14 people charged Tuesday with conspiracy in an alleged loansharking ring. Ted Nicholas Theodore, the goalie's father, faces 58 counts among the 124 charges laid. The charges against the 14 men include conspiracy, extortion, loansharking, gangsterism and uttering threats. "If you look at the charges, you will see certain charges are against Ted Nicholas Theodore for ordering the commission of certain infractions to benefit an organization,'' said Crown prosecutor Michel Pennou. www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=55693 |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 1, 2003 11:26:16 GMT -5
A scenario like this has to have an effect on the family as a whole.
I have my fingers crossed that this doesn't pose a distraction for José. Though I can't see how it wouldn't.
Bummer of a situation for him to be in.
Cheers
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Oct 1, 2003 11:32:01 GMT -5
Yes, but we've known about this for months. José will definitely feel the effects. New articles may well appear in the papers.
As Michel Blanchard said a couple of months ago, this is a stain that is not removed by mere legal judgement. Fair or unfair that is the reality.
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Post by Montrealer on Oct 2, 2003 16:08:49 GMT -5
Yes, but we've known about this for months. José will definitely feel the effects. New articles may well appear in the papers. As Michel Blanchard said a couple of months ago, this is a stain that is not removed by mere legal judgement. Fair or unfair that is the reality. Sins of the Father, of course. Glad we live in such enlightened times. I've gone over this before, but too many people are content to live in the status quo, revelling in the excuse. I actually wouldn't have said anything, Mr. B., until you mentioned fair or unfair. It is unfair, and I for one do not have to accept the "reality" simply because the majority does. Sorry, I opt out. Let the facts present themselves, and if the specific members of the Theodore family are guilty, so be it. If Jose himself is somehow proven connected to this, then so be it. Until that time, he is innocent in the eyes of the law. He is also innocent in my eyes. Let the unintelligible masses pronounce his guilt lustfully. At least their attention span is short. |
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Post by Habfaith on Oct 2, 2003 17:40:49 GMT -5
Sins of the Father, of course. Glad we live in such enlightened times. I've gone over this before, but too many people are content to live in the status quo, revelling in the excuse. I actually wouldn't have said anything, Mr. B., until you mentioned fair or unfair. It is unfair, and I for one do not have to accept the "reality" simply because the majority does. Sorry, I opt out. Let the facts present themselves, and if the specific members of the Theodore family are guilty, so be it. If Jose himself is somehow proven connected to this, then so be it. Until that time, he is innocent in the eyes of the law. He is also innocent in my eyes. Let the unintelligible masses pronounce his guilt lustfully. At least their attention span is short. Brilliant post Montrealer. Thank you for that last line in particular... |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Oct 18, 2003 1:30:39 GMT -5
Sins of the Father, of course. Glad we live in such enlightened times. I've gone over this before, but too many people are content to live in the status quo, revelling in the excuse. I actually wouldn't have said anything, Mr. B., until you mentioned fair or unfair. It is unfair, and I for one do not have to accept the "reality" simply because the majority does. Sorry, I opt out. Let the facts present themselves, and if the specific members of the Theodore family are guilty, so be it. If Jose himself is somehow proven connected to this, then so be it. Until that time, he is innocent in the eyes of the law. He is also innocent in my eyes. Let the unintelligible masses pronounce his guilt lustfully. At least their attention span is short. I agree with you 100%. It's been repeated often, innocent until proven guilty. Jose is like the Holy Ghost when it comes to the sins of the father. The father. The sons (half brothers) and the Holy Ghost. |
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Post by habwest on Oct 18, 2003 2:18:40 GMT -5
Unintelligible masses....I really shouldn't but what the heck, that's such a juicy provocation. Regarding "unintelligible", I think that I'm perfectly capable of making myself clearly understood, and have done so on this issue on the Board, probably in excess. Some folks may disagree with me but that's a different matter. It is possible for people to have differing and legitimate opinions on hot issues without casting aspersions on each other. I take your point of view as perfectly legitimate although I hold somewhat differing views myself. I would expect the same respect and treatment in return.  As for being part of the "masses", I don't think that anyone who knows me, or has read my posts for a time on this Board, would accuse me of following the herd (crusty old b*gger that I am), although if you take the term literally as meaning "the body of the common people" I stand guilty as charged- came from a farm family and am proud of it. Where I come from (Sask) being a 'common person' is actually considered a compliment so...thanks. ;D Anyway I don't want to get into this debate as I've already more than beat it to death. I hope as all others that it doesn't negatively affect Theodore's play overly much although it will obviously be a trying time for him. One comment, and that is I remain a bit miffed that the Habs haven't taken a stronger public stance in principle against their players associating in the future with biker gangs, ie the mob. It's just something that nags me every now and then. I just hope that we don't see it again by any of the Habs players. Just a personal quirk. Cheers  |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Oct 18, 2003 4:06:00 GMT -5
*Sigh*. A defendant is presumed innocent before the law. That does not make him/her in fact innocent. An important distinction.
My interest as to how much, if at all, this affects José is not diminished. So far, immersing himself in work has been an effective therapy. I know I wouldn't be disinterested if members of my family were likely facing prison time.
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Post by Cockroach on Oct 18, 2003 9:20:35 GMT -5
Unless Jose is implicated and/or charged,frankly my dear I dont give a d**n.
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Post by PTH on Oct 18, 2003 13:38:06 GMT -5
Unless Jose is implicated and/or charged,frankly my dear I dont give a d**n. Every male member of his family other than himself is charged, and he's not implicated ? |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Oct 18, 2003 16:41:38 GMT -5
Unintelligible masses....I really shouldn't but what the heck, that's such a juicy provocation. Regarding "unintelligible", I think that I'm perfectly capable of making myself clearly understood, and have done so on this issue on the Board, probably in excess. Some folks may disagree with me but that's a different matter. It is possible for people to have differing and legitimate opinions on hot issues without casting aspersions on each other. I take your point of view as perfectly legitimate although I hold somewhat differing views myself. I would expect the same respect and treatment in return. As for being part of the "masses", I don't think that anyone who knows me, or has read my posts for a time on this Board, would accuse me of following the herd (crusty old b*gger that I am), although if you take the term literally as meaning "the body of the common people" I stand guilty as charged- came from a farm family and am proud of it. Where I come from (Sask) being a 'common person' is actually considered a compliment so...thanks. ;D Anyway I don't want to get into this debate as I've already more than beat it to death. I hope as all others that it doesn't negatively affect Theodore's play overly much although it will obviously be a trying time for him. One comment, and that is I remain a bit miffed that the Habs haven't taken a stronger public stance in principle against their players associating in the future with biker gangs, ie the mob. It's just something that nags me every now and then. I just hope that we don't see it again by any of the Habs players. Just a personal quirk. Cheers I have read your posts and I support you, you crusty old b*gger! I must say that living in Saskatchewan will not save you from the two wheeled hoards that are riding out to silence you as we speak! I agree with management that this board is for opinions and fun, not personal assaults. I think Komisarek and Hainsey should play ahead of Bouillion and Brisebois, but Gainey didn't appoint me coach and the team is winning so my opinions are just opinions and not worth the rewritable disk space they are written on. |
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