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Post by UberCranky on Apr 14, 2005 17:39:31 GMT -5
Don't cofuse me with the facts! www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swfShould we dress Georgie Boy with a half mustache and call him Adolf Redux? Cause as much as I am a supporter of many American policies, this coverup STINKS!! I went from a reserved and sceptical supporter of Georgie, to elevating him on the same Pantheon of Morons reserved for such luminaries like Idi Amin and Stalin. He has yet to reach Adolf but there is still time. ![](http://sedition.com/img/bush-is-not-hitler.jpg)
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Post by franko on Apr 14, 2005 17:56:47 GMT -5
I really wish that someone would come up with something new, rather than the same old rehash repackaged. Granted, this is much prettier than the PowerPoint presentation of a couple of years ago, but sheesh!
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 14, 2005 18:20:01 GMT -5
I really wish that someone would come up with something new, rather than the same old rehash repackaged. Granted, this is much prettier than the PowerPoint presentation of a couple of years ago, but sheesh! Your one of dem there skeptics? I thought that there was a distinct lack of PLANE debris around the Pentagon strike. Unless of course the Pentagon carries an extra large botttle of Vaseline......... I am trying to finds the passanger list of Flight 77 but so far, no go. Does anyone have a link?
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Post by franko on Apr 14, 2005 19:40:37 GMT -5
Your one of dem there skeptics? Not at all. I said . . . I really wish that someone would come up with something new, rather than the same old rehash repackaged. The evidence spoke (I guess still speaks) to a convenient overlooking of the truth facts of the matter. Something new is what I desire, not something tired. As to what happened, I guess the Pentagon/White House philosophy was "Strike while the iron is hot. Don't let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to manipulate. And hope that when the media wakes up you are in and out of Afghanistan and Iraq."
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Apr 14, 2005 20:39:35 GMT -5
And hope that when the media wakes up you are in and out of Afghanistan and Iraq." Hasn't the media, by and large, been in bed with or embedded in many of the administration's operations and policies until very recently?
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Apr 14, 2005 21:52:33 GMT -5
Don't cofuse me with the facts! www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swfShould we dress Georgie Boy with a half mustache and call him Adolf Redux? Cause as much as I am a supporter of many American policies, this coverup STINKS!! I went from a reserved and sceptical supporter of Georgie, to elevating him on the same Pantheon of Morons reserved for such luminaries like Idi Amin and Stalin. He has yet to reach Adolf but there is still time. ![](http://sedition.com/img/bush-is-not-hitler.jpg) What is offensive to one is humor to another. As long as we don't degenerate into serious racial hatred and animosity.
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Post by blaise on Apr 14, 2005 23:30:54 GMT -5
Hasn't the media, by and large, been in bed with or embedded in many of the administration's operations and policies until very recently? In addition to media that haven't been sufficiently critical, we find there's cynical and mendacious manipulation of the news by the administration. There's even the planting of phoney news created by paid PR operatives. George W. Bush no longer uses email because he's afraid it it might become public. Ah yes, Orwell's Ministry of Truth lives in the White House. Well, he'll be gone no later than January 2009. Thank heavens there's a time limit to his baleful reign.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 15, 2005 0:16:48 GMT -5
What is offensive to one is humor to another. As long as we don't degenerate into serious racial hatred and animosity. It has absolutely nothing to do with "racial hatred and animosity". In fact, there isn't any. My comments are DIRECTED at the Bush administration and the one eyed foreign policy it follows. Fair game. Further.... Politicians are PUBLIC figures to the Nth degree and they are fair game to criticism and ridicule. The-Little-Liar-From-Shawinnigan is fair game and so is Bush'wacked and so is Prince Martin The Liar. However..... One must be cautious to make sure one directs comments at politicians and not it's citizens. Some (few) have a tendency to call it "American" policy and direct the vitriol at the American public. That is wrong.
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Post by HardCap on Apr 15, 2005 7:06:56 GMT -5
It has absolutely nothing to do with "racial hatred and animosity". In fact, there isn't any. My comments are DIRECTED at the Bush administration and the one eyed foreign policy it follows. Fair game. Further.... Politicians are PUBLIC figures to the Nth degree and they are fair game to criticism and ridicule. The-Little-Liar-From-Shawinnigan is fair game and so is Bush'wacked and so is Prince Martin The Liar. However..... One must be cautious to make sure one directs comments at politicians and not it's citizens. Some (few) have a tendency to call it "American" policy and direct the vitriol at the American public. That is wrong. By depicting Bush as a Hitler figure, you do nothing but erode your own viewpoint. It's quite funny actually. By taking such an extreme positiion, most reasonable people (and they are in the majority) automatically dismiss your opinion as based on emotion rather than logic. Moveon.org and others like George Soros failed miserably in the last election by using such tactics - it actually helps Bush and his followers as it mobilizes people who see such radicalism as dangerous. Keep them coming....lol This is interesting reading: freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/04/what-hitler-was-not-elected.html
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 15, 2005 11:42:00 GMT -5
Hitler WAS in fact elected. In the same way that Paul Martin's minority Liberals were elected, or George W. Bush was elected for his first term, despite his opponent receiving more of the popular vote. The backroom dealings this blog speaks of, that ensured Hitler was appointed Chancellor, are no different than the backroom dealings that go on in dozens of supposedly democratic, free countries, including Canada, Italy, Denmark, Israel and so on. You may not like the rules the elections were governed under, but they were legal under existing German law. Up until the Reichstag fire, Hitler had complied totally with what constituted a "democracy" in Germany at the time (and still does in many nations around the world).
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 15, 2005 18:35:02 GMT -5
By depicting Bush as a Hitler figure, you do nothing but erode your own viewpoint. It's quite funny actually. By taking such an extreme positiion, most reasonable people (and they are in the majority) automatically dismiss your opinion as based on emotion rather than logic. Moveon.org and others like George Soros failed miserably in the last election by using such tactics - it actually helps Bush and his followers as it mobilizes people who see such radicalism as dangerous. Keep them coming....lol This is interesting reading: freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/04/what-hitler-was-not-elected.htmlDon't worry about my viewpoint or how it's going to be eroded. I am not the point of discussion. Remember the HabsRus rules, discuss the content, not the poster. As for the comparison, part of it is to stimulate discussion in a "think between the comnmercias" world. What IS under discussion is........ Was the Pentagon attack really an Al'Quida attack or a plane accident? Where was the debris fromm a 80 ton plane? Where was the building damage? Is this possibly a cover up for a military plane crash? We live in a time where fingers get pointed every which way as it suits the pointer. Skepticism and criticism of those in control is necessary if we are to maintain control of our civilization....and our humanity. Rebuttal?
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 15, 2005 19:01:47 GMT -5
Hitler WAS in fact elected. In the same way that Paul Martin's minority Liberals were elected, or George W. Bush was elected for his first term, despite his opponent receiving more of the popular vote. The backroom dealings this blog speaks of, that ensured Hitler was appointed Chancellor, are no different than the backroom dealings that go on in dozens of supposedly democratic, free countries, including Canada, Italy, Denmark, Israel and so on. You may not like the rules the elections were governed under, but they were legal under existing German law. Up until the Reichstag fire, Hitler had complied totally with what constituted a "democracy" in Germany at the time (and still does in many nations around the world). I am sure that you remember how much I was in favor of the Iraq invasion. While I still think it was a good idea at the time, the end game was beyond the NeoCon's and Bush’s ability to execute without due subordination to their special interests. War is profitable….for some. The reason I posted the Hitler analogy was my ongoing concern that Bush’s adventurous militarism will spawn yet another “reason” to invade a Middle East/Far East country. Couple that with Bush’s belief in “divine right” which of course is guided by the “hand of God”. There is still time to start WW3....... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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