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Post by franko on Jan 16, 2006 11:27:38 GMT -5
I seems that Mr. Harper and the Conservative Party is on the way to a victory, according to the latest polls. But we heard this last time there was an election. Will Mr. Harper be able to hold on? Or will Mr. Martin make another comeback, keeping another tenuous grasp on his political life?
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Post by Polarice on Jan 16, 2006 12:56:04 GMT -5
I seems that Mr. Harper and the Conservative Party is on the way to a victory, according to the latest polls. But we heard this last time there was an election. Will Mr. Harper be able to hold on? Or will Mr. Martin make another comeback, keeping another tenuous grasp on his political life? I had to go with Harper winning a majority. I think the Liberals pretty much threw this one away with all the scandals. I can't see the people giving them another chance for awhile.
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Post by Toronthab on Jan 16, 2006 16:20:21 GMT -5
I think, without any real knowledge to sustify it other than overall percentages, that the Conservatives will likely be handed a majority government. I also think that this will be a very great setback for our country which will take more than ten years to recover from.
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Post by jkr on Jan 16, 2006 17:04:05 GMT -5
I voted Conservatives with a minority.
Then we'll be doing this again in 2 years.
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Post by franko on Jan 16, 2006 17:45:51 GMT -5
Conservatives, with a strong minority. They may be at 38% nationally in the polls, but little in Quebec hurts. And the Liberals will be out in full force to demonize for the next 7 days, which will be enough to bring the voting numbers down into minority territory.
Within 2 years, you say? Most likely -- another election "nobody wants", but I'm ready to hear the Liberals saying "but we had to do it".
Greens don't win a seat . . . don't even increase their support from last time. Three elections from now they'll be off the face of the Canadian earth . . . they'll have migrated back to the NDP.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 16, 2006 20:36:12 GMT -5
I went with a conservative minority. The electorate will start to get cold feet this week enough to bring the numbers down .... everyone now says they want the Liberals out, but when they have to mark that X I am sure alot of people will have second thoughts.
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Post by PTH on Jan 16, 2006 22:31:04 GMT -5
I went with a conservative minority. The electorate will start to get cold feet this week enough to bring the numbers down .... everyone now says they want the Liberals out, but when they have to mark that X I am sure alot of people will have second thoughts. Pretty much how I see it too. The Conservatives will only manage to survive as a minority party if they really do go for de-centralisation and not too much right-wing politics - it's the only way they can get the support of any other party (in this case, the Bloc will be all for more power to provinces).
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 16, 2006 22:49:13 GMT -5
A conservative minority. Be ready for the Torys to substantiate their decisions based on "the mess the Liberals left the books in."
I qualify that by citing what Dalton McGuinty's Liberals have done here in Ontario. The broken election promises started almost immediately and they deferred accountibility onto the out-going Tory government.
We had no idea the books were this badly balanced.
Oddly enought, McGuinty has increased taxes and managed to put Ontario back in the red.
Depending on what the numbers look like, JKR, we could be back at the poles in 18 months.
Cheers.
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Post by UberCranky on Jan 16, 2006 22:57:29 GMT -5
I think it will be a Conservative minority. The problem with that is that the old Liberal gaurd wont see that people are not happy with them so they will cling on.
If there is a Conservative majority then the Liberals are likely to get rid of Martin & Co. and rebuild themselves.
In the long run, the ideal situation would be a Conservative majority by a couple of seats. That way, they will be scared of doing anything stupid and uniting the parties against them.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 17, 2006 7:58:34 GMT -5
A conservative minority. Be ready for the Torys to substantiate their decisions based on "the mess the Liberals left the books in." I qualify that by citing what Dalton McGuinty's Liberals have done here in Ontario. The broken election promises started almost immediately and they deferred accountibility onto the out-going Tory government. We had no idea the books were this badly balanced. Oddly enought, McGuinty has increased taxes and managed to put Ontario back in the red. Depending on what the numbers look like, JKR, we could be back at the poles in 18 months. Cheers. That was the same song and dance when the tories came to power here .... the books are in such bad shape ... then lo and behold less than 2 years later they say "we did such a good job that we are now operating with a small surplus" ..... numbers can be skewed to make them say whatever you want.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 17, 2006 8:04:28 GMT -5
I think it will be a Conservative minority. The problem with that is that the old Liberal gaurd wont see that people are not happy with them so they will cling on. If there is a Conservative majority then the Liberals are likely to get rid of Martin & Co. and rebuild themselves. In the long run, the ideal situation would be a Conservative majority by a couple of seats. That way, they will be scared of doing anything stupid and uniting the parties against them. I think that whether it is a Conservatice minority or a Conservative majority that Paul Martin will be removed as leader. Then they will be left with the same problem that the conservatives had .... try to find a way to bring the government down but not be blamed for it. It will take more than a year for the Liberals to stop fighting amonst themselves and find a leader who will unite the Chretienites and Martinites. They have no one who can do it right away. Ignatieff? Not sure he is the guy myself. It'll have to be someone with Quebec roots, and the Liberals may not even win a Quebec seat this time out .... so they'll have to solve that problem first. So in 2 years they might think about it .... but I think they will try and let the Tories hang themselves and wait the term out ..... they know that noone will want a quick election, and they also know that people want to get finally get back to getting things done. The best thing the Liberals can do is make sure the tories keep all their promises and than hammer at any deficit they run in 4 years time saying they can get us back to surpluses.
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Post by franko on Jan 17, 2006 8:07:29 GMT -5
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Post by Tattac on Jan 17, 2006 8:46:31 GMT -5
Two minutes for election ignorance Informal survey finds NHL players show a shocking lack of interest in politics or in casting a ballot on Jan. 23 PIERRE LEBRUN Canadian Press
Tuesday, January 17, 2006
1 | 2 | NEXT >> CREDIT: PHIL CARPENTER, THE GAZETTE "It's not really important to me. I don't think people have power," Canadiens' Mike Ribeiro says of Jan. 23 federal election. Election? What election?
Following NHL hockey might be a pastime for many Canadian politicians, but it doesn't appear to work the other way around.
the whole article: www.canada.com/topics/sports/hockey/canadiensstory.html?id=69b7cce1-8b94-4257-b7db-0dbebb025316
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jan 17, 2006 15:45:50 GMT -5
I think it will be a Conservative minority. The problem with that is that the old Liberal gaurd wont see that people are not happy with them so they will cling on. If there is a Conservative majority then the Liberals are likely to get rid of Martin & Co. and rebuild themselves. In the long run, the ideal situation would be a Conservative majority by a couple of seats. That way, they will be scared of doing anything stupid and uniting the parties against them. I think that whether it is a Conservatice minority or a Conservative majority that Paul Martin will be removed as leader. Then they will be left with the same problem that the conservatives had .... try to find a way to bring the government down but not be blamed for it. It will take more than a year for the Liberals to stop fighting amonst themselves and find a leader who will unite the Chretienites and Martinites. They have no one who can do it right away. Ignatieff? Not sure he is the guy myself. It'll have to be someone with Quebec roots, and the Liberals may not even win a Quebec seat this time out .... so they'll have to solve that problem first. So in 2 years they might think about it .... but I think they will try and let the Tories hang themselves and wait the term out ..... they know that noone will want a quick election, and they also know that people want to get finally get back to getting things done. The best thing the Liberals can do is make sure the tories keep all their promises and than hammer at any deficit they run in 4 years time saying they can get us back to surpluses. Kim Campbell might be available?
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