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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2006 7:46:58 GMT -5
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2006 7:47:18 GMT -5
To all our Veterans who fought and gave their lives.....Thank You.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2006 7:47:43 GMT -5
THE FIGHTING NEWFOUNDLANDER St. John's, Newfoundland
The Memorial was erected in memory of the Newfoundlander's who fought in the World Wars.
The inscription on the Monument reads:
THE FIGHTING NEWFOUNDLANDER PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF ST. JOHN'S BY THE HON. SIR EDGAR R. BOWRING
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Post by Habit on Nov 13, 2006 16:45:02 GMT -5
This year I got to goto Ghlin, here near Mons, where some of the last fighting took place in WWI. (The last Canadian shot in WWI was 1 km from my house in Havré by a sniper on Nov 11th @ 10:58 am) The locals were very glad that 6 Canadians were able to take part in their little towns parade and wreath laying.
Next year I hope to attend the Passchendaele ceremony. If you have no idea what Passchendaele is, look it up under 'Hell' for Canadian soldiers in WWI. You will get an idea of what they went thru....
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 14, 2006 8:47:33 GMT -5
This year I got to goto Ghlin, here near Mons, where some of the last fighting took place in WWI. (The last Canadian shot in WWI was 1 km from my house in Havré by a sniper on Nov 11th @ 10:58 am) The locals were very glad that 6 Canadians were able to take part in their little towns parade and wreath laying. Next year I hope to attend the Passchendaele ceremony. If you have no idea what Passchendaele is, look it up under 'Hell' for Canadian soldiers in WWI. You will get an idea of what they went thru.... I know exactly where you are, habit. I have a picture of the grave of Pte. George Lawrence Price, the last Canadian killed in WWI. Also, there were 25 (?) Canadians killed the last night of the war in a raid on the town of Mons. Some of the troops who participated in the attack wanted to get at Gen. Currie. Currie's official explanation was that he wanted our race to finish the war where they began it. It was totally unnecessary though. Also, Passchendaele was taken by Canadian troops at a cost of 16,000 casulaties. Currie asked why the worthless piece of ground had to be taken and Haig to him he would let him know by the end of the war. At the end of the war, Haig kept his promise and told Currie that Passchendaele had to be taken to relieve the pressure on the French further to the south. However, Currie knew that the BEF did not have a victory that year. Hence, the real reason for the attack was so the BEF could end the year on a victory in order to quel the peace movement in England and keep the war movement alive. Incidently, Passchendaele was evacuated two months later by allied forces and the Germans reoccupied the positions without a fight. The futility of war is prosonified in Passchendaele.
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Post by duster on Nov 14, 2006 13:01:05 GMT -5
And to think that some historians are now lauding Douglas Haig as being a visionary. Nothing visionary about cold blooded murder. Not sure if you know this, but Paul Gross is making a movie of it. Release date is next Fall. I hope he does as good a job as the Aussies did with "Gallipoli"... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passchendaele_(film)
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 14, 2006 13:18:20 GMT -5
And to think that some historians are now lauding Douglas Haig as being a visionary. Nothing visionary about cold blooded murder. Not sure if you know this, but Paul Gross is making a movie of it. Release date is next Fall. I hope he does as good a job as the Aussies did with "Gallipoli"... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passchendaele_(film) Thanks duster. I think the standard for cinematograpy was set in several films; The "Lord of the Rings trilogy" and "Saving Private Ryan." If you're going to tell a story, TLOR has set the standard, while many veterans say that SPR was by far the most realistic version of war that they have seen so far (actually disturbing to some). I really hope they get this one right. A movie can lose me in the first five minutes if it's not done right off the bat. I'm not to be arrogant by saying that either. But, after seeing these two movies, along with several other well done films, standards have been established. Cheers.
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Post by razor on Nov 14, 2006 17:58:28 GMT -5
And to think that some historians are now lauding Douglas Haig as being a visionary. Nothing visionary about cold blooded murder. Not sure if you know this, but Paul Gross is making a movie of it. Release date is next Fall. I hope he does as good a job as the Aussies did with "Gallipoli"... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passchendaele_(film) Thanks duster. I think the standard for cinematograpy was set in several films; The "Lord of the Rings trilogy" and "Saving Private Ryan." If you're going to tell a story, TLOR has set the standard, while many veterans say that SPR was by far the most realistic version of war that they have seen so far (actually disturbing to some). I really hope they get this one right. A movie can lose me in the first five minutes if it's not done right off the bat. I'm not to be arrogant by saying that either. But, after seeing these two movies, along with several other well done films, standards have been established. Cheers. I thought the Band of Brothers series was abolutely the best depiction of what it was/is like to be in the infantry- right from boot camp to battle. Saving Private Ryan was too Americanized/cliched for me - not to take away anything from the opening sequence. There is a good book called The Suicide Battalion, about the 46th (South Saskatchewan) Battalion during WW1, including the Battle of Passchendaele. The telling statistic - of 5374 men who served, 4917 we either killed or wounded.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 15, 2006 9:22:21 GMT -5
Thanks duster. I think the standard for cinematograpy was set in several films; The "Lord of the Rings trilogy" and "Saving Private Ryan." If you're going to tell a story, TLOR has set the standard, while many veterans say that SPR was by far the most realistic version of war that they have seen so far (actually disturbing to some). I really hope they get this one right. A movie can lose me in the first five minutes if it's not done right off the bat. I'm not to be arrogant by saying that either. But, after seeing these two movies, along with several other well done films, standards have been established. Cheers. I thought the Band of Brothers series was abolutely the best depiction of what it was/is like to be in the infantry- right from boot camp to battle. Saving Private Ryan was too Americanized/cliched for me - not to take away anything from the opening sequence. There is a good book called The Suicide Battalion, about the 46th (South Saskatchewan) Battalion during WW1, including the Battle of Passchendaele. The telling statistic - of 5374 men who served, 4917 we either killed or wounded. Thanks Razor. I haven't seen Band of Brothers all the way through but the episodes I did see were excellent. I think it was made after Saving Private Ryan, but I also think a lot of the techniques Spieberg used for BB was the same he used for SPR. A cut and paste from IMDB.com: By the third episode of shooting, the special effects department had used more pyrotechnics than were used in the entire production of Saving Private Ryan (1998). Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg were in on it together. Have seen probably the first three or four episodes, but that's about it. I've been meaning to watch the rest and based on your comments I think I'll make time for it. Cheers.
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