Human Rights, Human Wrongs

[franko]

youtube clip of UN admissible and inadmissible statements at the UN.

Human rights? Not when countries that have poor human rights records (Azerbaijan, China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia) have seats on the council.

[Cranky]

franko said:

youtube clip of UN admissible and inadmissible statements at the UN.

Human rights? Not when countries that have poor human rights records (Azerbaijan, China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia) have seats on the council.

The UN is nothing more then a platform for irrelevant countries and garbage regimes to voice their prejudices.

This youtube clip is NOTHING compared to other things. If Lybia is elected to chair U.N. Human Rights Body then the UN is nothing more then a joke. End of story.

[franko]

Gotta start slowly, HA . . . there are a lot of people who think that the UN is relevant, and that it speaks "for the people of the world".

Interesting that one-country one-vote democracy is acceptable within the walls of the UN but not in many of the voting countries.

[MC Habber]

franko said:

youtube clip of UN admissible and inadmissible statements at the UN.

Human rights? Not when countries that have poor human rights records (Azerbaijan, China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia) have seats on the council.

Who are we to criticize, really? Does Canada have a "good" human rights record?

[Skilly]

franko said:

Gotta start slowly, HA . . . there are a lot of people who think that the UN is relevant, and that it speaks "for the people of the world".

Interesting that one-country one-vote democracy is acceptable within the walls of the UN but not in many of the voting countries.

Can't do that franko ..... China would rule the world, in a proportional system, and Ontario would sook to no end in a one vote system.. There is no such thing as democracy, it is a veiled falsehood.

[Disgruntled70sHab]

franko said:

Gotta start slowly, HA . . . there are a lot of people who think that the UN is relevant, and that it speaks "for the people of the world".

Interesting that one-country one-vote democracy is acceptable within the walls of the UN but not in many of the voting countries.

True. There are many countries who benefit from being members of the UN.

But, what else do the largest distributors of arms in the world, the USA, Britain, Russia, China and France, all have in common? They're all permanent members of the Security Council.

Also note how both France and Germany said they would veto any military action against Iraq. Yet, both of these countries had billions in annual trade with Iraq and, yes, both are on the Security Council.

There are countries who benefit by being members of the UN, but it's overall effectiveness as a body representing the world's countries is questionable. In fact, they're a failure in this area.

Those members of the Security Council who hold a veto use that trump card when things don't benefit their country.

The only solution I can offer is to dismantle the UN in its present state and then rebuild it into well-functioning group. Easier said than done though. I'm sure a well-functioning group wouldn't go over with some countries.

Cheers.

[Tattac]

disgruntled70shab said:

Also note how both France and Germany said they would veto any military action against Iraq. Yet, both of these countries had billions in annual trade with Iraq and, yes, both are on the Security Council.

There are countries who benefit by being members of the UN, but it's overall effectiveness as a body representing the world's countries is questionable. In fact, they're a failure in this area.

Not to nitpick but Germany is not on the Security Council. Even if it was, it couldn't veto anything. Only permanent members have a veto right.

www.un.org/sc/members.asp

[Disgruntled70sHab]

tattac said:

disgruntled70shab said:

Also note how both France and Germany said they would veto any military action against Iraq. Yet, both of these countries had billions in annual trade with Iraq and, yes, both are on the Security Council.

There are countries who benefit by being members of the UN, but it's overall effectiveness as a body representing the world's countries is questionable. In fact, they're a failure in this area.

Not to nitpick but Germany is not on the Security Council. Even if it was, it couldn't veto anything. Only permanent members have a veto right.

www.un.org/sc/members.asp

Thanks tattac. No worries about offending me. It's important to get the right facts out.

However, I do remember Germany saying that they wouldn't support it. I think countries rotate through the Security Council. They might have been on the Security Council at the time but then again I haven't verified my references.

Thanks again.

Cheers.

[franko]

skilly said:

There is no such thing as democracy, it is a veiled falsehood.

My point exactly.