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Post by Cranky on Apr 29, 2007 19:28:33 GMT -5
Where the hell does he get off criticizing our government to satisfy his enviro-Nazi friends? Is this the same attention grabbing wh*re who wastes 30 times more electricity then the average household? Is this the same attention grabbing wh*re who charges $200,000 per speaking appearence? Is this the same attetion grabbing wh*re who created a "carbon trading company" to grossly benefit from the fear mongering he spreads? Where does this AMERICAN Hollywood b*tt licking, fear mongering wanna be president tell us our business? www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070428.wgoreemissions0428/BNStory/Front |
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Post by franko on Apr 29, 2007 20:10:05 GMT -5
Where the hell does he get off criticizing our government to satisfy his enviro-Nazi friends? Chill pill time, HA |
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Post by jkr on Apr 29, 2007 20:36:09 GMT -5
Since when is our government immune to criticism from within our borders & outside of them? People are free to offer their opinions whether we agree or not.
The reaction is a little over the top.
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Post by Cranky on Apr 29, 2007 21:39:04 GMT -5
Since when is our government immune to criticism from within our borders & outside of them? People are free to offer their opinions whether we agree or not. The reaction is a little over the top. Over the top? Not really jkr. Do you like your gas bill? Your electricity bill? You are seeing the very small tip of the iceberg in what will be massive costs to your pocket book and lifestyle. All led by self serving, deceiving, double faced politicians LIKE Al Gore. Have you seen the latest screaming by the federal opposition? They will have us on bicycle churning ice cream in wooden barrels if we let them. |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 29, 2007 21:47:44 GMT -5
[ps: I'm absolutely shocked: it took you a full day to get this on!] I can't watch the news, umm...did I say news? I mean the sheep directing fluff without losing my temper. Man oh man, we need a face smashing recession or depression to straighten out our cafe-latte complacancy. |
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Post by MC Habber on Apr 30, 2007 1:27:53 GMT -5
Where the hell does he get off criticizing our government to satisfy his enviro-Nazi friends? Is this the same attention grabbing wh*re who wastes 30 times more electricity then the average household? Is this the same attention grabbing wh*re who charges $200,000 per speaking appearence? Is this the same attetion grabbing wh*re who created a "carbon trading company" to grossly benefit from the fear mongering he spreads? Where does this AMERICAN Hollywood b*tt licking, fear mongering wanna be president tell us our business? www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070428.wgoreemissions0428/BNStory/FrontThis sounds exactly like the reaction of some Americans who become irate when us lowly Canadians have the nerve criticize their wonderful government. BTW, Al Gore's personal life and business don't mean his criticisms are wrong. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 30, 2007 7:02:26 GMT -5
Where the hell does he get off criticizing our government to satisfy his enviro-Nazi friends? Is this the same attention grabbing wh*re who wastes 30 times more electricity then the average household? Is this the same attention grabbing wh*re who charges $200,000 per speaking appearence? Is this the same attetion grabbing wh*re who created a "carbon trading company" to grossly benefit from the fear mongering he spreads? Where does this AMERICAN Hollywood b*tt licking, fear mongering wanna be president tell us our business? www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070428.wgoreemissions0428/BNStory/FrontThis sounds exactly like the reaction of some Americans who become irate when us lowly Canadians have the nerve criticize their wonderful government. BTW, Al Gore's personal life and business don't mean his criticisms are wrong. No they dont ... but he called our government policies "a fraud". Al Gore's whole environment stance is a fraud, his documentary is a fraud, him creating the internet is a fraud, and IMO he is the most hypocritical person on the face of the planet. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 30, 2007 7:09:40 GMT -5
I saw David Suzuki confronting John Baird on this issue and I'm more apt to listen to Suzuki than Al Gore. I know Gore won an Oscar for "An inconvenient truth" but I remain leery. I don't know if he's going to run again, but he's a politician first and foremost. Enough said on that. However, Suzuki has been one of Canada's leading environmentalists for years now. David Suzuki takes concerns about emissions plan straight to environment minister
Canadian Press
Published: Friday, April 27, 2007 Article tools
TORONTO (CP) - One of this country's most respected environmentalists took his concerns about Ottawa's greenhouse gas strategy straight to the environment minister.
David Suzuki confronted Environment Minister John Baird in the audience at an environmental consumer show in Toronto on Friday where both were speaking. Suzuki, who cut a path through the crowd to reach the minister, told Baird the regulations announced Thursday were a "disappointment."
When Baird replied the Conservatives were going further than any other government in Canadian history, Suzuki said it wasn't enough.
Suzuki added there is opportunity for further action.
The two men parted amicably enough, with Baird saying his ministry would be "very happy" to meet with Suzuki.
Earlier in the day, Suzuki said the federal strategy falls far short of expectations and proves the Conservatives are out of touch with Canadians.
He says it's not a strategy, it's a sham.
Suzuki says the government must meet the terms of the Kyoto Accord, but the Conservative plan would only achieve the targets by 2025 - which is 13 years too late.
Dubbed "Turning the Corner," the Conservative government strategy focuses equally on reducing greenhouse gas emissions and improving air quality.
Everything from the efficiency of household dishwashers to the carbon dioxide emissions of Alberta's oil sands will fall under new regulations over the next several years.
Canadian households will also get hit in the pocketbook, with prices for appliances, cars and electricity expected to rise slightly. Suzuki and Baird |
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Post by MC Habber on Apr 30, 2007 13:09:48 GMT -5
him creating the internet is a fraud In the interest of truth, I have to point out that the story that Gore claimed to have "invented" the internet is a lie. What Gore said was that he pushed hard for the necessary funding to make the internet happen, and this is completely true. The media twisted his words, probably on purpose, to make him sound like a kid in a schoolyard making an empty boast, and the public is so shallow that it became widely accepted as truth. I believe Tim Berners-Lee (credited with inventing the World Wide Web), has said that the internet might not have come to be without Al Gore's efforts. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 30, 2007 18:28:30 GMT -5
The media twisted his words, probably on purpose, to make him sound like a kid in a schoolyard making an empty boast, and the public is so shallow that it became widely accepted as truth. Sounds like another topic IMO *cough* Humans Causing Global Warming *cough* |
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Post by MC Habber on May 1, 2007 1:58:38 GMT -5
The media twisted his words, probably on purpose, to make him sound like a kid in a schoolyard making an empty boast, and the public is so shallow that it became widely accepted as truth. Sounds like another topic IMO *cough* Humans Causing Global Warming *cough* I don't think that analogy works very well. In the former case, there were widespread attacks on a single politician, sometimes probably with political motivations, but often just to get a cheap laugh. In the latter case, you seem to be alleging a massive, decades-old conspiracy on the part of the international scientific community (or a huge portion thereof) to fool the public. |
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Post by franko on May 1, 2007 6:03:07 GMT -5
you seem to be alleging a massive, decades-old conspiracy on the part of the international scientific community (or a huge portion thereof) to fool the public. Decades old? But recently drilled into our psyches. If every credible scientist were on board disaterous man-made climate change would be a lot more acceptable . . . and if discussions could go on instead of "you're a denier"/end of story. Oh, and crank up the rhetoric from our politicians: OTTAWA - Elizabeth May, the federal Green party leader, is standing by her comment over the weekend that condemned Stephen Harper's stance on climate change by comparing it to "a grievance worse than Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis." Prime Minister is playing politics |
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Post by Skilly on May 1, 2007 6:07:01 GMT -5
Sounds like another topic IMO *cough* Humans Causing Global Warming *cough* I don't think that analogy works very well. In the former case, there were widespread attacks on a single politician, sometimes probably with political motivations, but often just to get a cheap laugh. In the latter case, you seem to be alleging a massive, decades-old conspiracy on the part of the international scientific community (or a huge portion thereof) to fool the public. No ... I am not alleging a conspiracy by the scientific community. I am alleging that: The media (and politicians) twist(s) words, probably on purpose, to make (it) sound like (the end of the world), and the public is so shallow that it became widely accepted as truth.
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Post by MC Habber on May 1, 2007 13:39:09 GMT -5
Oh, and crank up the rhetoric from our politicians: OTTAWA - Elizabeth May, the federal Green party leader, is standing by her comment over the weekend that condemned Stephen Harper's stance on climate change by comparing it to "a grievance worse than Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis." Prime Minister is playing politics Any worse than the rhetoric in this thread? I don't think it's a very helpful comment, but she did say that she was quoting George Monbiot to show how Canada's international reputation has been damaged. |
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Post by franko on May 1, 2007 15:21:17 GMT -5
Oh, and crank up the rhetoric from our politicians: OTTAWA - Elizabeth May, the federal Green party leader, is standing by her comment over the weekend that condemned Stephen Harper's stance on climate change by comparing it to "a grievance worse than Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis." Prime Minister is playing politics Any worse than the rhetoric in this thread? That much I agree with! ;D Sorry . . . I don't buy it. "I didn't say it first; I'm just repeating something that someone else said" doesn't cut it with me. It was inappropriate, period. He also spoke of those who are not taking what he consideres appropriate action on climate change as "an axis of evil" -- also well over the top. She implies that climate change is a problem but that "other people say nasty things" but she doesn't, even though she quotes them. May has come out swinging against the Conservatives . . . which is, in some way, her job. She has to make a name for herself and be firmer than the Liberals and the NDP who agree with her. Howver, this comment and other (including the "Evangelical Christians are waiting for the end [of ] time in glee") has proved to me that she is "not ready for prime time" and that David Chernushenko was indeed the better candidate for leader. Oh, and she has fully persuaded me now not to vote Green in the next election . . . who knows where I'll go now but I didn't even last a decade as a green. Sad. |
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