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Post by franko on Jun 8, 2007 19:25:21 GMT -5
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 8, 2007 20:09:52 GMT -5
The irony? His last name is "Wellman". He seems anything but a well man.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 9, 2007 11:04:29 GMT -5
Looks perfectly normal to me. Heck, if Gainey did that after a Hab's loss, do you think that ANYONE would mail in the next game?
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Post by franko on Jun 9, 2007 12:49:46 GMT -5
Sorry, Cranky . . . if Gainey did that we'd some would be comparing him to MT for his rants or to Carbo for his smirks.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 9, 2007 13:27:48 GMT -5
That looked like a pretty good grenade throw....what do you think, Dis?
More seriously, I get the feeling that managerial rants are now becoming a contest to see which guy can outrant the next, to end up on tv. I bet if the networks just ignored the spectacles, the managers would tone it down a lot.
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Post by franko on Jun 9, 2007 14:03:32 GMT -5
That looked like a pretty good grenade throw....what do you think, Dis? More seriously, I get the feeling that managerial rants are now becoming a contest to see which guy can outrant the next, to end up on tv. I bet if the networks just ignored the spectacles, the managers would tone it down a lot. Kind of like the US networks ignoring the NHL . . . hockey continues to disappear in the States. Can we do the same with Buttman? |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 10, 2007 9:35:31 GMT -5
That looked like a pretty good grenade throw....what do you think, Dis? Hollywood ... Sigh! Well, if a grenade pin can be pulled out with your teeth then I'd be talking to the manufacturer. These things are designed to release the pin after a respectable tug. Just doesn't happen the other way and for good reason too. You're right there, "Mur." Just going with the thought, I read that Bobby Cox isn't too far off the record for being thrown out of the most games as a manager. "John McGraw holds the record of 131, but Cox is at 130, so that record could fall this month."Like you point out, this particular manager was more worried about how much attention he was getting rather than promoting the welfare of his player. Cheers. |
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Post by duster on Jun 10, 2007 12:51:48 GMT -5
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Post by habmeister on Jun 10, 2007 16:19:48 GMT -5
Looks perfectly normal to me. Heck, if Gainey did that after a Hab's loss, do you think that ANYONE would mail in the next game? is this what you call leadership? wow, i think this guy is a complete idiot that is not in control of his emotions and is bordering on psychotic. he's a clown that didn't get enough attention as a child or something. i wouldn't want gainey having one fibre in common with him. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 10, 2007 19:47:04 GMT -5
That was good for a chuckle, duster. I'd be surprised if he only got the boot from the game. But, as soon as the umpire started swearing back it became more complicated. Nice find. Cheers. |
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 11, 2007 8:50:59 GMT -5
One of my favorite books is called "The Umpire Strikes Back", by Ron Luciano, who at the time was a flamboyant, colorful umpire. Perhaps the only one in baseball history.
Anyways, in the book he says that Earl Weaver was by far the most hated manager in baseball, from an umpiring perspective. Even Billy Martin didn't come close. When asked to name the top five most difficult managers to deal with, Weaver got spots 1-4.
One anecdote from the book;
Weaver once apparently implemented some sort of system where he would go out an argue a call, while his assistant coaches would check the replay. The assistant coach would then give Weaver a sign, letting him know whether the umps were right or wrong. If they were right, Weaver would rant for a little bit, and then leave, but if they were wrong... Anyways, one night Luciano's crew managed to steal his signs (oh, the irony). Now Luciano's crew, as a lot of umpires are, was big. Like, pro wrestling big. Like 6'4, 240lbs average big... Weaver is not big. So they steal his signs, and wait... Sure enough, there is a close play, and out comes Weaver ranting and raving, waving his arms, doing his thing, while occassionally checking over his shoulder to see what sign his assistant coach flashes to him. In the meantime, Luciano's crew is moving in, slowly collapsing around Weaver, also watching for the sign... Sure enough, the assistant coach flashes the sign that the umps were right, Weaver finishes his rant, turns to go back into the dugout... and runs smack right into the chest of one of the crew... All four umpires surrounded Weaver and blasted him all the way back to the dugout, throwing their own little Weaver fit right back at him...
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