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Post by Lord Bebop on Apr 19, 2008 13:26:37 GMT -5
During the first intermission of the Washington Philly game Dreger said the Habs have interest in Fabien Brunnstrom. Dreger said he is 6'1'' 210lbs with Hossa's speed.
He also said teams that are in the running are Vancouver, Detroit, Leafs, Dallas, Habs, Boston and late runner Ottawa.
The Canucks were about to sign him but they fired Nonis.
Stats: Färjestads BK GP54 G 9 A 28 P 37 +4
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 19, 2008 13:56:46 GMT -5
He is looking for top six money and top six ice time, so something likely would have to give in the mix to fit him into the lineup (say a Ryder departure this summer).
There sure has been a lot of hoopla around this big Swedish kid this past year as he seems to have really become the hot commodity as far as young players not playing in the NHL or drafted by an NHL team goes.
Lighting it up in the SEL is still no guarantee of NHL success, but I am sure the Habs have scouted him lots and will have made up their own mind. A big scoring forward is not the worst thing the Habs could add to the mix.
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Post by Andrew on Apr 19, 2008 15:18:44 GMT -5
What position does he play? There seems to be a lot of hype around this kid. If he is indeed worthy of Alfredsson comparisons, how can you not make room for him.
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Post by CrocRob on Apr 19, 2008 15:43:37 GMT -5
He is looking for top six money and top six ice time, so something likely would have to give in the mix to fit him into the lineup (say a Ryder departure this summer). There sure has been a lot of hoopla around this big Swedish kid this past year as he seems to have really become the hot commodity as far as young players not playing in the NHL or drafted by an NHL team goes. Lighting it up in the SEL is still no guarantee of NHL success, but I am sure the Habs have scouted him lots and will have made up their own mind. A big scoring forward is not the worst thing the Habs could add to the mix. That's incorrect. He's still only eligible for a rookie contract, which maxes out at about $3M/season with all the bonuses. I've read elsewhere that he's seeking a two-year deal (which is the only length he can sign under the entry level system) worth about $2M/season. |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Apr 19, 2008 15:51:24 GMT -5
What position does he play? There seems to be a lot of hype around this kid. If he is indeed worthy of Alfredsson comparisons, how can you not make room for him. He's a left winger. A lot of hype for sure. It bring to mind the whole Jiri Dopita affair. He only lasted 1 season I believe. Perhaps he is a Alfredsson clone I really don't know.His stats are rather blah though. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 19, 2008 16:02:42 GMT -5
Here is an interesting article insidehockey.com/columns/1562He's from the same city where IKEA has their HQ. Hopefully he isn't as fragile as their furniture.  |
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Post by CrocRob on Apr 19, 2008 16:10:42 GMT -5
Here is an interesting article insidehockey.com/columns/1562He's from the same city where IKEA has their HQ. Hopefully he isn't as fragile as their furniture. Well at least we'll know that whenever he's in a slump, all we need is an alan key to fix it. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2008 17:44:08 GMT -5
Brunnstrom doesn't sound like an IKEA brand, though. Brunit or Brindek is more like it. Does he come with meatballs?
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Post by habmeister on Apr 19, 2008 18:02:24 GMT -5
i trust that our scouts can watch him live and project the type of nhl player he'll be, he's already old enough, so they should be able to tell if he's good enough for your club.
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Post by franko on Apr 19, 2008 18:05:43 GMT -5
Does he come with meatballs? Is he the type of guy that is going to play hard or play around? |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Apr 19, 2008 19:04:29 GMT -5
Detroit are masters of finding the players other teams over look.So if the Wings are interested Trevor Timmons should at least take a look.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 19, 2008 21:48:39 GMT -5
He is looking for top six money and top six ice time, so something likely would have to give in the mix to fit him into the lineup (say a Ryder departure this summer). There sure has been a lot of hoopla around this big Swedish kid this past year as he seems to have really become the hot commodity as far as young players not playing in the NHL or drafted by an NHL team goes. Lighting it up in the SEL is still no guarantee of NHL success, but I am sure the Habs have scouted him lots and will have made up their own mind. A big scoring forward is not the worst thing the Habs could add to the mix. That's incorrect. He's still only eligible for a rookie contract, which maxes out at about $3M/season with all the bonuses. I've read elsewhere that he's seeking a two-year deal (which is the only length he can sign under the entry level system) worth about $2M/season. I was aware of the limitations, but decided to keep the post short. Subject to the CBA, which is based on age of player, first contract etc. I knew he was pushing for what top draft picks were demanding for their first NHL contract, which is a lot for a kid coming from oversees not proven in the NHL game. He may be well worth it, and quite honestly under the current CBA, getting production out of kids in their entry level contract is a key to success. I leave it in the hands of our capable scouts. Our amateur scouts are amongst the best in the business, it then becomes a marketing job between competing teams that are tied by the contract limitations of the CBA. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 19, 2008 21:56:39 GMT -5
Detroit are masters of finding the players other teams over look.So if the Wings are interested Trevor Timmons should at least take a look. Detroit have also traditionally scouted and drafted very well in Sweden. Again, another reason for Habs brass to take this development seriously. CBC, in their incredible ability to play copy cat, had his fuzzy SEL images on their Hot Stove tonight. TSN played this story up this afternoon, but Bobby Mac has been talking about this kid since mid season. We do need a Swedish passport in the room though.  Hmmm, maybe Saku feels totally different. Keep those meatballs on other teams!! |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Apr 20, 2008 9:05:06 GMT -5
From what I heard ,from someone who opinion is more educated and connected then Dreger IMHO ,is Brunnstrom's talent is more comparable to Arvedsson
I believe he meant him>>>>>>http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8466249
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Post by CrocRob on Apr 20, 2008 11:40:36 GMT -5
An Arvedsson still wouldn't be a bad addition to the team, and truly he'd probably be making about $2M anyway.
That does sound more in line with reality, instead of another Alfredsson (who was still a longshot when he was drafted as a 22-year old).
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Post by jkr on Apr 20, 2008 11:49:33 GMT -5
why wasn't he ever drafted?
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Post by CrocRob on Apr 20, 2008 11:55:54 GMT -5
why wasn't he ever drafted? The million dollar question no one has an answer to. |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Apr 20, 2008 13:42:27 GMT -5
why wasn't he ever drafted? Quote"When he was 19 years old, Fabian Brunnstrom crashed out of Sweden's Allsvenskan hockey league, a division below the Elite league. Not only was the NHL not interested, neither were the top coaches and scouts in Sweden. Then Brunnstrom did something remarkable. In accepting a demotion to Division One, Brunnstrom made not only a commitment to hockey, but to himself. "From that point he said to himself, `I try to go and play like a hockey player,'" says legendary Swedish player Tommy Samuelsson. "`I go 100 per cent, focus 100 per cent to see how good I can be.' "He made that decision. From that moment, everything has gone just great for him. That was a good decision for his career." Samuelsson, now coach of Farjestad of Sweden's Elite league, was impressed. He signed Brunnstrom on the spot after watching him play in a Division One game last season". www.thestar.com/Sports/article/301705___________________________________________________________________ He needed to mature a little,I guess. |
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Post by The New Guy on Apr 23, 2008 12:46:31 GMT -5
This is going to be an interesting case. If there really are 20 GMs trying to sign him then you can throw the money out the window - he'll get the rookie max. So it all becomes a matter of drawing his interest.
I wonder - if we're truly interested, and we go deep in the playoffs, do we become a front-runner for the kid? He'd be a good fit, could replace Ryder (who seems doomed to play somewhere else next season). If we go deep then he'll be coming into contender (not that we aren't one now, but every round we advance makes us look more and more potent). We have one of his idols locked up for next season (Kovalev - with both of the other two listed - Hossa and Jagr - being in free agent limbo). Offer him space on a line with Kovalev next season (for a trial period with Plekanec, reunite the Kostitsyn bros and Koivu and do something else with Higgins). Maybe he'd come over.
If he's as good as the hype...
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Post by habmeister on Apr 23, 2008 13:20:19 GMT -5
the canucks all but guaranteed him the spot alongside the sedins, and he had pretty much said he was coming to vancouver for that spot. then the dumba.. canucks owner fired nonis and he's back on the open market.
i don't trust canucks scouts at all, unless it was thomas gradin that watched him over there which is very likely.
i think we're pretty set in our top 6 though, and how do we know this guy won't just cash his big paycheck and float? that worries me, it's a lot of money for a totally unproven player in this league.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 23, 2008 23:18:15 GMT -5
Vancouver as an org is a bit messed up right now. For the most part, they cannot draft worth a darn. They are desperate for scoring depth. They already have a locker room full of guys who can chat away in Swedish. Great goalie, but is he in synch with the team?
Of course they would go hard on Brunnstrom for the "what could be". They need some off season changes, and this could be step one.
The Habs scout every move 100 times over. If they make the move, it will be for the right reasons. Seat of the pants, thy name is not Gainey.
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 24, 2008 7:39:29 GMT -5
Daniel Alfreddson?
Magnus Arveddson?
Or Jiri Dopita?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 24, 2008 7:44:53 GMT -5
From what I heard ,from someone who opinion is more educated and connected then Dreger IMHO ,is Brunnstrom's talent is more comparable to Arvedsson I believe he meant him>>>>>>http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8466249 I heard this comparision somewhere too, JJ. Can't remember where, but I recently saw soem footage of this guy and looks to be the real deal. I think it will take him a few games, ten/fifteen or so, to find his step in the NHL, but when he does he'll be a dynamo. Cheers. |
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Post by cigarviper on Apr 24, 2008 8:22:54 GMT -5
The Habs scout every move 100 times over. If they make the move, it will be for the right reasons. Seat of the pants, thy name is not Gainey. *cough ribeiro cough* Speaking of a player committing himself to playing as best as he can..... |
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Post by franko on Apr 24, 2008 9:01:36 GMT -5
need to add the caveat: for the Habs
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 24, 2008 10:45:57 GMT -5
I remember first reading about him halfway through the fantasy pool season. I remember actually seeing his name on the FA list but it was removed the next time I went looking for him (a day or two later).
If he lives up to his hype I think he'd be the replacement for Kovalev if and when Alexei decides to leave. That's not to suggest Kovalev will leave at the end of his contract next year.
Cheers.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Apr 24, 2008 11:18:43 GMT -5
Daniel Alfreddson? Magnus Arveddson? Or Jiri Dopita? I never heard of him or saw him play; but if it will piss Don Cherry off to have another chickenship sweed in a Hab's uniform, I say do it! ;D |
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Post by CrocRob on May 1, 2008 12:02:38 GMT -5
JP Barry today said on FAN590 that Brunnstrom has narrowed his choices down to Dallas, Detroit, and Montreal. He'll be in Montreal this Saturday for the game.
Barry is also trying to get Fabian to be receptive to a couple more teams (Toronto included) but he's not sure how successful it'll be since Fabian is apparently feeling like he needs to make a decision soon. Expect him to make his decision within the next two weeks or so.
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Post by jkr on May 1, 2008 12:55:06 GMT -5
JP Barry today said on FAN590 that Brunnstrom has narrowed his choices down to Dallas, Detroit, and Montreal. He'll be in Montreal this Saturday for the game. Barry is also trying to get Fabian to be receptive to a couple more teams (Toronto included) but he's not sure how successful it'll be since Fabian is apparently feeling like he needs to make a decision soon. Expect him to make his decision within the next two weeks or so. J.P. Barry is also Mats Sundin's agent. If he is going to get the same money from any team ( the entry level deal) then how does the agent gain from widening the field of teams? Is he pitching Toronto as a favor to Sundin? |
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Post by Polarice on May 1, 2008 13:04:15 GMT -5
JP Barry today said on FAN590 that Brunnstrom has narrowed his choices down to Dallas, Detroit, and Montreal. He'll be in Montreal this Saturday for the game. Barry is also trying to get Fabian to be receptive to a couple more teams (Toronto included) but he's not sure how successful it'll be since Fabian is apparently feeling like he needs to make a decision soon. Expect him to make his decision within the next two weeks or so. J.P. Barry is also Mats Sundin's agent. If he is going to get the same money from any team ( the entry level deal) then how does the agent gain from widening the field of teams? Is he pitching Toronto as a favor to Sundin? No, he wasn't really interested in the Leafs, it was Dregger pressuring him to talk to the Leafs. |
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