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Post by montreal on Jun 22, 2003 13:03:29 GMT -5
The '03 draft is over. How did we do?
1st pick, 10th overall. Andrei Kastsitsyn, RW
2nd pick, 40th overall. Corey Urquhart, C
3rd pick, 61st overall. Maxim Lapierre, C
4th pick, 79th overall. Ryan O'byrne, RD
5th pick, 113th overall. Corey Locke, C
6th pick, 123rd overall. Danny Stewart, LW
7th pick, 177th overall. Christopher Heino-Lindberg, G
8th pick, 188th overall. Mark Flood, RD
9th pick, 217th overall. Oskari Korpikari, LD
10th pick, 241st overall. Jimmy Bonneau, LW
11th pick, 271st overall. Jaroslav Halak, G
With our 11 picks, 3 centers, 2 LW's, 1 RW, 3 D-2 RD, 1 LD, and 2 goalies. 4 came from the Euro leagues, 1 Russian/Belarus, 1 Swedish, 1 Finnish, and 1 Slovak. 4 guys from the Q, 2 OHL, and 1 BCHL/NCAA
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Post by The Edge on Jun 22, 2003 13:06:59 GMT -5
I think our two 2nd rounders could have been better. I really really wanted a big center the second Saku. Oh well.
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Post by mic on Jun 22, 2003 13:16:51 GMT -5
The '03 draft is over. How did we do? 1st pick, 10th overall. Andrei Kastsitsyn, RW 2nd pick, 40th overall. Corey Urquhart, C 3rd pick, 61st overall. Maxim Lapierre, C 4th pick, 79th overall. Ryan O'byrne, RD 5th pick, 113th overall. Corey Locke, C 6th pick, 123rd overall. Danny Stewart, LW 7th pick, 177th overall. Christopher Heino-Lindberg, G 8th pick, 188th overall. Mark Flood, RD 9th pick, 217th overall. Oskari Korpikari, LD 10th pick, 241st overall. Jimmy Bonneau, LW 11th pick, 271st overall. Jaroslav Halak, G With our 11 picks, 3 centers, 2 LW's, 1 RW, 3 D-2 RD, 1 LD, and 2 goalies. 4 came from the Euro leagues, 1 Russian/Belarus, 1 Swedish, 1 Finnish, and 1 Slovak. 4 guys from the Q, 2 OHL, and 1 BCHL/NCAA Well, we got a potential star with Kastsitsyn, a potential good two way center with some size and grit (Lapierre), a potential decent center who can score (Urquhart), a potential NHL monster d-man who can skate (O'Byrne), the OHL leading scorer in both regular season and play-offs with Locke. If we can drop the "potential" everytime I used it, then this draft is certainly one of the best for a long time. However, we'll have to wait a few years to decide wherever it was a smart drafting by Timmins. I'm looking forward to Lapierre. Did anybody here see him play ? From what I read, he's the kind of player I really do like : reliable, hard working, good checker with some hands. Michaël |
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Post by Patty Roy on Jun 22, 2003 13:39:39 GMT -5
All in all i like what we did on draft day.
I think Kastsitsyn is a terrific pick at #10. Like i said before we haven't had this much upside in a forward prospect since Saku Koivu. I'm excited by the fact that this kid could be in NA come next season.
The 2nd round picks are interesting, although they arn't really guys i was looking at (then again, what do i know?)...with those picks though the Habs have certainly addressed an organizational need for good center prospects. Urquhart sounds like he has 2nd line potential; he's got good size and a good skill set but i guess one of the knocks on him is his lack of intensity. I actually like the selection of Lapierre a little more. This kid was ranked higher than Urquhart both by THN (63rd vs. 72nd) and by CSB (23rd vs. 32nd). Take it for what its worth, but Lapierre was actually ranked ahead of guys like Carter, Richards and Seabrooke by CSB. He showed great improvement in his stats this past season, and while he needs to fill out, he should eventually play at around 6'2" and maybe 190-200. He is said to be more of a gritty performer than Urquhart, which i like.
O'byrne in the 3rd round was a selection that threw me a bit, but i like what i've read on the kid. Red Line has him as a sleeper pick...he's got great size (6'5" 210), he's a good skater, and plays with an edge. He's a project for sure, but it sounds like he's got the tools to be a good one if all goes well.
I like what we did in the 4th round. Both Locke and Stewart are undersized, but Locke obviously has tremendous talent and Stewart is said to have pretty decent skill and plays with a bit of an edge. At this point these guys are all projects, but again they were interesting picks.
I pretty much know absolutely nothing about our last 5 picks, but it was nice to see the Habs add a couple of defenceman and a couple of goalies to our system. Bonneau sounds like a potential goon....he's got good size and good PIM. The Habs don't really have any prospects like Bonneau, so i welcome that selection, especially at such a late stage of the draft.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 22, 2003 13:39:47 GMT -5
The '03 draft is over. How did we do? 1st pick, 10th overall. Andrei Kastsitsyn, RW 2nd pick, 40th overall. Corey Urquhart, C 3rd pick, 61st overall. Maxim Lapierre, C 4th pick, 79th overall. Ryan O'byrne, RD 5th pick, 113th overall. Corey Locke, C 6th pick, 123rd overall. Danny Stewart, LW 7th pick, 177th overall. Christopher Heino-Lindberg, G 8th pick, 188th overall. Mark Flood, RD 9th pick, 217th overall. Oskari Korpikari, LD 10th pick, 241st overall. Jimmy Bonneau, LW 11th pick, 271st overall. Jaroslav Halak, G With our 11 picks, 3 centers, 2 LW's, 1 RW, 3 D-2 RD, 1 LD, and 2 goalies. 4 came from the Euro leagues, 1 Russian/Belarus, 1 Swedish, 1 Finnish, and 1 Slovak. 4 guys from the Q, 2 OHL, and 1 BCHL/NCAA Kasty. A potential superstar with no guarantees. No guarantees in life or drafting. Corey. Decent stats. Maximus. Savard must have seen these two in Montreal ofetn enough to know what he's doing. Conan O'byrne. BIG. Can skate. We can wait. Going to college. Sounds like Traverse with brains added. Locke. The real steal of the draft. Worth waiting for. No certainty but a good gamble as Theo's father would say. Stewart. Right last name wrong first name. Should have been Anthony. Heino-Lindberg. Savard wanted Heino and Savard wanted Pele Lindberg the goalie. Committee choice. Mark Flood. ?? Who the hell knows. Oskari Korpikari. It looks like Wheel of Fortune after picking too mny vowels. Jimmy Bonneau. Admit it. No one ever saw him play. Jaroslav Halak. Soft hands, good lateral mobility, nose for the net, good along the boards, great stats, I'm making this all up. No idea. No mas. |
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Post by Thomas on Jun 22, 2003 13:41:26 GMT -5
Even if may have not been intended, we added depth to places where it was missing. We added 3 centers in Locke, Urqhart and Lapierre. Added two goalies, two right D's 2 LW's and a possible superstar.
I don't remember ever having this much depth on the team. As may not have been a big move kinda guy, but he replaced the AHL talent we had with Houle with lots of solid depth. We are overflowing with possible players now, too bad there is only room for 12 forwards and 6 defenseman.
Centers
Koivu, Ribeiro, Pleckanec, Higgins, Urqhart, Locke, Lapierre, Gratton, Eneqvist, Deveaux, Staal
RW
Kastsitsyn, Perezhogin, Ward, Ryder, Milroy, Balej, Ferland, Thinel, Buturlin, Selig, Anger
LW
Zednik, Bulis, Sundstrom, Hossa, Lambert, Larrivee, Marois, Ujick, Stewart, Bonneau
RD
Rivet, Komisarek, Archer, O'Byrne, Flood, Korneev
LD
Markov, Hainsey, Souray, Beauchemin, Glenn, Linhart, Shasby, Korpikari
Goalie
Theodore, Garon, Puurula, Michaud, Fichaud, Tasarov, Halak, Heino-Lindberg
May have mist some prospects but thats pretty much who we have in the organization as of now. All our prospects mixed with some trades and UFA singing will give us a great future, hats off to AS to adding some solid depth (he did not add all of them above, but he added some key elements) and hope he continues for the next 4 years along with Gainey.
I did not include the older veterans who will be UFA after the upcoming season, or Audette or Brisebois because of possible trades regarding both players.
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Post by Yeti on Jun 22, 2003 13:48:12 GMT -5
I didn't check but was Hilmerfarb drafted again (we didn't sign him, he re-entered the draft)  ? |
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Post by jl.roberts on Jun 22, 2003 13:48:55 GMT -5
If we can't convert one of Ryder/Milroy/Ward to be a LW, I'd like to add another gritty guy there. The left side is a little too soft and european for my liking.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jun 22, 2003 16:30:51 GMT -5
I don't remember ever having this much depth on the team. As may not have been a big move kinda guy, but he replaced the AHL talent we had with Houle with lots of solid depth. We are overflowing with possible players now, too bad there is only room for 12 forwards and 6 defenseman. CentersKoivu, Ribeiro, Pleckanec, Higgins, Urqhart, Locke, Lapierre, Gratton, Eneqvist, Deveaux, Staal RWKastsitsyn, Perezhogin, Ward, Ryder, Milroy, Balej, Ferland, Thinel, Buturlin, Selig, Anger LWZednik, Bulis, Sundstrom, Hossa, Lambert, Larrivee, Marois, Ujick, Stewart, Bonneau RDRivet, Komisarek, Archer, O'Byrne, Flood, Korneev LDMarkov, Hainsey, Souray, Beauchemin, Glenn, Linhart, Shasby, Korpikari GoalieTheodore, Garon, Puurula, Michaud, Fichaud, Tasarov, Halak, Heino-Lindberg May have mist some prospects but thats pretty much who we have in the organization as of now. All our prospects mixed with some trades and UFA singing will give us a great future, hats off to AS to adding some solid depth (he did not add all of them above, but he added some key elements) and hope he continues for the next 4 years along with Gainey. depth is NEVER..and I repeat NEVER a bad thing. I really like our draft..I always say get at least 2 NHLers out of each draft and try to get 3-4 out of the great drafts. In my mind, we at least have 2 guys who are gonna be NHlers. Kasty for sure..and one of Lapierre/Urkle/Locke/O'Byrbe should make it...and maybe even 2 of those last 4 can make it. I am also glad we added a couple of goalies...a position we were starting to be thin at IMO.. |
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Post by Montrealer on Jun 22, 2003 21:54:08 GMT -5
Doesn't Kastsitsyn play LW at least as much as RW? I think that's why he was listed as simply "W" by the NHL.
So we'll see where he plays and whether Zed is even here (I mean, he might follow up with a 40 goal season and stay here forever or a 15 goal season and leave the next year, hopefully the former but nothing is sure)
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Post by MPLABBE on Jun 22, 2003 22:07:28 GMT -5
Doesn't Kastsitsyn play LW at least as much as RW? I think that's why he was listed as simply "W" by the NHL. So we'll see where he plays and whether Zed is even here (I mean, he might follow up with a 40 goal season and stay here forever or a 15 goal season and leave the next year, hopefully the former but nothing is sure) what do you mean by leave? by UFA or trade? I believe Killer Kat plays both wings |
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Post by Patty Roy on Jun 22, 2003 22:13:18 GMT -5
I didn't check but was Hilmerfarb drafted again (we didn't sign him, he re-entered the draft) ? No he wasn't...i believe only 4 players were re-drafted. From HF: The following players were re-drafted. Carolina: Shay Stephenson - 198th pick overall (plus 80) (formerly 278th pick overall in the 2001 draft - Edmonton) Vancouver: Brandon Nolan - 111th pick overall (dropped 39) (formerly 72nd pick overall in the 2001 draft - New Jersey) Pittsburgh: Andy Chiodo - 199th pick overall (dropped 33) (formerly 166th pick overall in the 2001 draft - N.Y. Islanders) Buffalo: Nathan Paetsch - 202nd pick overall (dropped 144) (formerly 58th pick overall in the 2001 draft - Washington) |
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Post by Patty Roy on Jun 22, 2003 22:14:39 GMT -5
I believe Killer Kat plays both wings I've heard/read that he plays both wings...then again i've also read that he's both a right and left shot! |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jun 22, 2003 22:17:45 GMT -5
I've heard/read that he plays both wings...then again i've also read that he's both a right and left shot! THN says he is a right shot... does anyone have a picture of this guy in action?! |
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Post by habruti on Jun 22, 2003 22:25:13 GMT -5
russinaprospects.com says he is a Left shot playing on the RW just like Perezhogin!! But for Perezhogin he did play all three forward position from what I read (LW, C and RW).
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Post by MPLABBE on Jun 22, 2003 22:27:37 GMT -5
russinaprospects.com says he is a Left shot playing on the RW just like Perezhogin!! But for Perezhogin he did play all three forward position from what I read (LW, C and RW). but russian prospects were the ones who said(and still say) that Perezhogin is a Righty shot who plays LW. IMO, they can't be trusted...  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 27, 2003 1:17:48 GMT -5
I've heard/read that he plays both wings...then again i've also read that he's both a right and left shot! He played so little last year I'm not sure he actually played either wing for more thn 6 games. |
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Post by BillPickles on Jun 27, 2003 10:19:40 GMT -5
depth is NEVER..and I repeat NEVER a bad thing. I really like our draft..I always say get at least 2 NHLers out of each draft and try to get 3-4 out of the great drafts. In my mind, we at least have 2 guys who are gonna be NHlers. Kasty for sure..and one of Lapierre/Urkle/Locke/O'Byrbe should make it...and maybe even 2 of those last 4 can make it. I am also glad we added a couple of goalies...a position we were starting to be thin at IMO.. More importantly, if we're able to draft a key player 4 out of 5 drafts we'll be set. Teams like Ottawa and Philly have been great at this. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jun 27, 2003 10:33:16 GMT -5
More importantly, if we're able to draft a key player 4 out of 5 drafts we'll be set. Teams like Ottawa and Philly have been great at this. Agreed. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 28, 2003 11:30:29 GMT -5
More importantly, if we're able to draft a key player 4 out of 5 drafts we'll be set. Teams like Ottawa and Philly have been great at this. I think we have positioned the right personnel to do just that. We have AS who was a big part of that Ottawa build up of talent through the draft. His key guy through all that was TT, who AS lured over to the Habs this past year. And we have the in-charge Bo, ready to steer the ship and make the key deal or two to complete the picture. Even if all the draft picks don't pan out, the farm now has more depth than I can remember. It also helps that the core of young players all "grow up" together and build that sense of team as they work their way through the system together. For many of them, that starts next week at the development camp. Minnesota has also had success in a very short time with this approach, and with the strength of their farm team (Houston Aeros...boo hiss), they will continue to be a strong team for a while yet. |
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