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Post by cigarviper on May 7, 2008 13:16:08 GMT -5
Now the Montreal Canadiens don't respect francophones. This is just plain retarded. What's next? They'll insist all the gear the Habs players use to be made by francophones?  French music wanted at Habs games CBC Sports A prominent Quebec publisher is calling on the government to force the Montreal Canadiens to play more French-language music at the Bell Centre. Michel Brule, publisher of Les Editions des intouchables, circulated a petition demanding the Quebec and Canadian governments set a quota for how much francophone music is played in the arena. Brule said he was shocked the arena's disc jockey played only one French song during Game 7 of the Habs' first-round series against the Boston Bruins. The petition calls on politicians to create content rules similar to CRTC regulations, and demands French-language songs make up at least 65 per cent of the tunes that echo through the Bell Centre. Brule says many people warmed to his idea and he collected 200 signatures in two hours. He says the Canadiens' organization has "no respect" for francophones in Montreal. |
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Post by franko on May 7, 2008 13:25:46 GMT -5
Hockey season is over . . . if you can't find a controversy, create one.
Think I'm going to start my own petition: there are too many country/hillbilly songs played at the Palladium Corel Centre Scotia Bank Place . . .the Sens have no respect for those of us who hate country music [an oxymoron, in my eyes] -- no more, I tells ya, no more . . .
Even better: a petition to call on politicians to create rules to ban idiotic petitions.
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Post by The New Guy on May 7, 2008 13:30:44 GMT -5
<sarcasam>
It will end when us anglos have finally eradicated the most perfect language in the history of the world - the language known as Quebecois French! Only then will we rest our tireless fight against the one language that could cause all our downfall and foil all our perfect and oh-so-evil schemes. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
</sarcasam>
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 8, 2008 1:06:22 GMT -5
We got rid of the old organ that was played at the Forum. Now we need a toothless lumberjack playing the spoons.
Does Celine Dion qualify as a francophone if she sings Disney songs in English?
Is "na na na na na na na na hey hey goodbye" considered more than 10% English?
Stop Arettez.
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Post by Skilly on May 8, 2008 8:49:25 GMT -5
Well to start they could start playing Bye Bye Mon Cowboy by Mitsou everytime we have to yank Carey Price. ;D
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Post by ropoflu on May 8, 2008 9:02:08 GMT -5
Well, I don't buy the language controversy.
But I'll admit I find the music played at the booth to be pretty bland, mild, beige, undifferentiated and repetitive (seems the DJ always play the same 25ish tune soundtrack). The Star wars PP song is getting old and so is U2, Coldplay, etc.
I mean, the Habs are a cultural icon (and a bilingual one), should that be translated into a unique atmosphere? I know the fans make it a unique building, but why not convey it through the music also? And I don't mean more "canadian content" like Bryan Adams or Nickelback, please no!
Montreal is supposed to be a mecca for emerging/indierock/electronic music, so let it snow! We could even remix some old organ tunes we had the good old days.
As for the anthems, why not gives the OH Canada a break every now and then in favor of other national anthems (Belarussian, Russian, Swiss, whatever it's just an idea, and probably not a popular one).
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 8, 2008 11:04:27 GMT -5
How about a 2 cent per gallon discount at Petro-Can in you use a credit card with french printing?
Ten cent discount on the Metro for pure laine francophones?
Happy hours on St. Denis but not in pubs on Crescent St.
Briere, Brodeur and Biron get goalie pads that are two inches wider than Price or Halak.
There is always a life or death controversy in Quebec.............
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Post by Skilly on May 8, 2008 11:17:20 GMT -5
How about a 2 cent per gallon discount at Petro-Can in you use a credit card with french printing? Ten cent discount on the Metro for pure laine francophones? Happy hours on St. Denis but not in pubs on Crescent St. Briere, Brodeur and Biron get goalie pads that are two inches wider than Price or Halak. There is always a life or death controversy in Quebec............. That is utter nonsense. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 8, 2008 11:20:13 GMT -5
Wonder why Guy Bertrand is quiet on this.  |
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Post by Skilly on May 8, 2008 11:21:12 GMT -5
As for the anthems, why not gives the OH Canada a break every now and then in favor of other national anthems (Belarussian, Russian, Swiss, whatever it's just an idea, and probably not a popular one). Ahhh crap ...now you bring up this idea .... I've missed my chance to hear the Ode To Newfoundland.  [singing] When sunrays crown thy pineclad hills, and summer spreads her hand
When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee smiling land....... [/singing trail off as I go] |
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Post by Doc Holliday on May 8, 2008 11:36:35 GMT -5
HABS games reaches a huge audience and yes, it would be cool if a company setup in the heart of Quebec could use its strings to promote some good local talent instead of playing Eye of the Tiger, Cotton Eye Joe and what not. Heck, it would even add a certain twist to the building that makes it different from any other...
Of course Brule takes the wrong approach, cries in the media and tries to force his idea instead of taking it to the HABS directly and maybe reach a little deal with them...
...and what does that do?
...it creates an equally strong reaction of "...these damn quebeckers and their stupid linguistic demands..."
I'm always thouroughly stunned to see how far apart and defensive towards each other we remain after so many years of living together.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 8, 2008 14:29:45 GMT -5
I left a comment on the Canoe.ca poll. It's nice hearing that old organ music every so often during a game. It was never an issue before so it really shouldn't be an issue now.
What I find is that Brule seems to be bitter when there's much more positive approach he could use. Statements like:
"Anglophones are the most ethnocentric people in the history of humanity"
or,
"Anglophones think the only language on the planet is English."
... really don't make me support his cause. Like I said, there are better ways of putting things.
That said, if the decide to add more Francophone music, it won't prevent me from going to their games or watching them on tv. Like I was saying, it never was an issue before and I can't see it being an issue now ... one way or the other, I'll still be a fan.
Cheers.
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Post by ropoflu on May 8, 2008 15:32:15 GMT -5
www.loreille.com/special3.htmlMade in Montreal. Made for the Habs. Bilingual, trilingual, hell, every players on the team could understand it. Just make more than one so it don't get on our nerves after 10 games. Create a whole a Habs branded musical atmosphere. No need for words in any languages. Music alone is universal and so is our sport.
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Post by ropoflu on May 8, 2008 15:39:21 GMT -5
Ahhh crap ...now you bring up this idea .... I've missed my chance to hear the Ode To Newfoundland. [singing] When sunrays crown thy pineclad hills, and summer spreads her hand
When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee smiling land....... [/singing trail off as I go] When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills, And summer spreads her hand, When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee, smiling land. We love thee, we love thee, We love thee, smiling land. When spreads thy cloak of shimmering white, At winter's stern command, Thro' shortened day, and starlit night, We love thee, frozen land. We love thee, we love thee We love thee, frozen land. As blinding storm gusts fret thy shore, And wild waves lash thy strand, Thro' spindrift swirl, and tempest roar, We love thee windswept land. We love thee, we love thee We love thee windswept land. As loved our fathers, so we love, Where once they stood, we stand; Their prayer we raise to Heaven above, God guard thee, Newfoundland God guard thee, God guard thee, God guard thee, Newfoundland *** I wish I could hear it live at the Booth. Really. |
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Post by Cranky on May 8, 2008 19:03:23 GMT -5
How about I sing Frère Jacques live in my war thong? It's a win win solution for all. French song and my "unique" presence should be sufficent to frighten the opposing team. The only downside is that Avery may fall in love with me and for sure, it would start a new fashion in Toronto...... |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 9, 2008 3:17:56 GMT -5
As for the anthems, why not gives the OH Canada a break every now and then in favor of other national anthems (Belarussian, Russian, Swiss, whatever it's just an idea, and probably not a popular one). Ahhh crap ...now you bring up this idea .... I've missed my chance to hear the Ode To Newfoundland. [singing] When sunrays crown thy pineclad hills, and summer spreads her hand
When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee smiling land....... [/singing trail off as I go] I's the by that stopps the puck and I's the by that scores them.................. |
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Post by Skilly on May 9, 2008 6:44:09 GMT -5
Ahhh crap ...now you bring up this idea .... I've missed my chance to hear the Ode To Newfoundland. [singing] When sunrays crown thy pineclad hills, and summer spreads her hand
When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee smiling land....... [/singing trail off as I go] When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills, And summer spreads her hand, When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee, smiling land. We love thee, we love thee, We love thee, smiling land. When spreads thy cloak of shimmering white, At winter's stern command, Thro' shortened day, and starlit night, We love thee, frozen land. We love thee, we love thee We love thee, frozen land. As blinding storm gusts fret thy shore, And wild waves lash thy strand, Thro' spindrift swirl, and tempest roar, We love thee windswept land. We love thee, we love thee We love thee windswept land. As loved our fathers, so we love, Where once they stood, we stand; Their prayer we raise to Heaven above, God guard thee, Newfoundland God guard thee, God guard thee, God guard thee, Newfoundland *** I wish I could hear it live at the Booth. Really. Verse 2 and verse 3 are rarely sung ... even by the most "patriotic" of Newfoundlanders. Usually just the first and last ... I've always wondered if other provinces have anthems... do they? hmmmm probably something to discuss in another thread. |
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Post by The New Guy on May 9, 2008 8:37:47 GMT -5
When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills, And summer spreads her hand, When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee, smiling land. We love thee, we love thee, We love thee, smiling land. When spreads thy cloak of shimmering white, At winter's stern command, Thro' shortened day, and starlit night, We love thee, frozen land. We love thee, we love thee We love thee, frozen land. As blinding storm gusts fret thy shore, And wild waves lash thy strand, Thro' spindrift swirl, and tempest roar, We love thee windswept land. We love thee, we love thee We love thee windswept land. As loved our fathers, so we love, Where once they stood, we stand; Their prayer we raise to Heaven above, God guard thee, Newfoundland God guard thee, God guard thee, God guard thee, Newfoundland *** I wish I could hear it live at the Booth. Really. Verse 2 and verse 3 are rarely sung ... even by the most "patriotic" of Newfoundlanders. Usually just the first and last ... I've always wondered if other provinces have anthems... do they? hmmmm probably something to discuss in another thread. My particular favorite is verse 3 here (which, when we sang it at grade school was always verse 2) because it conjures up a lot of what is home to me - great storms whipping up off the Atlantic and the old house I grew up in creaking like the roof was about to come off (it never did). But back on topic, to answer your question - there are no other provinces that have anthems the same way Newfoundland does. Some have "songs" which have - more or less - taken up the roll of being a "provincial anthem" but it's not quite the same thing. Of all the provinces the only two I can think of are Nova Scotia ("Farewell to Nova Scotia") and Ontario (the name of which escapes me at the moment, but is a ridiculous sounding song that has something to do with Ontari-ari-ari-o). But again, it's strictly an unofficial thing. I don't think they ever sing them with the "national anthem" reverence given to the Ode. Of course, the Ode is a national anthem I suppose, even if the country doesn't exist any more. As (another) aside, my father always thought that every province should have a provincial anthem, and once sent a letter to CBC as such. For Newfoundland, besides the Ode (which was official in his mind, and not likely to be changed) he thought it might also be worthwhile to perhaps name "Sonny's Dream" or "Saltwater Joys" (if you wanted to keep the Ode as the old national anthem, he supposed). For Nova Scotia he suggested "Farewell to Nova Scotia" and "Out on the Mira". He went on to suggest one for every province (the only other one I remember was "North-West Passage" for the North-West Territories), but he thought that - especially for Atlantic Canada - the UIC Song by the Wonderful Grand Band might be appropriate. |
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Post by The New Guy on May 9, 2008 8:41:52 GMT -5
Ahhh crap ...now you bring up this idea .... I've missed my chance to hear the Ode To Newfoundland. [singing] When sunrays crown thy pineclad hills, and summer spreads her hand
When silvern voices tune thy rills, We love thee smiling land....... [/singing trail off as I go] I's the by that stopps the puck and I's the by that scores them.................. Nah - if you're not doing the Ode you've got to do "Shinny on the Ice" by Buddy Wasisname. Wait until the bay is froze, scrape and shovel off the snow
Well the scattered boy had skates, scattered toque on from his face
Wearing rubbers with no grips, pipes and planks for hockey sticks
Well I know it wasn't nice playing hockey on the ice
After school and Sunday too made no difference who was who
We had Rolly for the goalie, 'cause he was six foot two
Watch for Ralphie on his skates, couldn't turn he'd just go straight
If he struck he'd take your life, playing hockey on the ice.
Oh when Harv or Bruce or Len, shifted the net and fired one in
Rolly beat him in the face but they was all the best of friends
If you had to use your fists, you kept on your woolly mitts
And they sure got lot of fights playing shinny on the ice.
Chorus:
Scunnin' marbles in the muck, playing tiddley after school
Catching conners off the wharf, firing rocks like bloody fools
Copying pans out in the cove, killing frogs or rats or mice
But there wasn't nothing better than playing hockey on the ice.
We had Bert the referee 'cause he saw one on TV
He made up all the rules, but no one gave it heed
And the worse one of the bunch, Tom would go home for his lunch
He'd do it just for spite, playing hockey on the ice
Brucie's mother tanned his hide for wearing Sunday clothes outside
For falling in the rent or going off the edge of the ice
For swearing there was Harv, swinging fists right from the start
He was all bark no bite playing hockey on the ice.
Oh, when the day would end and the cold and wet would send
Every boy home to work, after supper then
We were soon all off to beds, the only thing in our heads
What we dreamt of every night was playing hockey on the ice.
Chorus:
Scunnin' marbles in the muck, playing tiddley after school
Catching conners off the wharf, firing rocks like bloody fools
Copying pans out in the cove, killing frogs or rats or mice
But there wasn't nothing better than playing hockey on the ice.
Playing hockey (hockey, hockey) on the bays or ponds or coves
Playing hockey (hockey, hockey) as everybody knows. |
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Post by The New Guy on May 9, 2008 8:57:52 GMT -5
...it creates an equally strong reaction of "...these damn quebeckers and their stupid linguistic demands..." But see, it is just that. I wouldn't go so far as to say "those damn quebecers" (I'm more inclined to say "those damn idiots" and leave the quebecers out of it, as I'm sure not all quebecers think this way) but it is the protectionist - almost paranoid - nature of the language laws in Quebec and the various portions of the Quebec media who have a "Canada hates us" mentality that give rise to silly requests like this. I mean honestly, does anyone think that the French Canadian culture is going to die because they play English music at a Canadiens hockey game. Who here goes to a hockey game to listen to music? I was there for game two of the Flyers series and, quite frankly, I didn't go to hear whatever was playing. The only songs I remember are "In the Air Tonight" (and, although I don't know much Quebecois music, I severely doubt you could find a more appropriate song to do that piece with - it's got that whole creepy power to it that you don't even need to hear the words for) and "Where the Streets Have No Name" (which you could possibly replace, but again, I don't think Quebec is going to crumble because of one song). The rest of the night I was too busy cheering and trying to taunt the Flyers players (and the refs, who I thought called a lousy game) to notice what music was playing. Its ridiculous. You wouldn't suggest forcing Billy Joel or Madonna to perform x% of their songs in French. You can't suggest that the owners of the Molson Centre make the arena available at a cost so that small French acts can play. So why suggest that you mandate a certain percentage of French songs be played? It's this type of attitude that leads to intolerance and hatred. It's this type of attitude that leads to people who will go the grave of a former (and much beloved) Prime Minister and scrawl slogans of hate across it. It gives rise to the attitude that one culture is superior to another (a few years ago there was a Quebec minister who was quoted as saying that the rest of Canada had no culture - something which I, coming from Newfoundland, vehemently disagree with). And, in the end, if allowed to grow unchecked, it will lead to a division in the country that can not be healed. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 9, 2008 9:52:36 GMT -5
...it creates an equally strong reaction of "...these damn quebeckers and their stupid linguistic demands..." We'll always have rednecks who believe this, Doc. "Anglophones are the most ethnocentric people in the history of humanity" or, "Anglophones think the only language on the planet is English." ... and we'll always have hardline seperatists who believe this. ...I'm always thouroughly stunned to see how far apart and defensive towards each other we remain after so many years of living together. So long as we have rednecks and seperatists, there remain others who will use these comments as a reflection of the Anglophone and Francophone societies as a whole. Nothing could be further from the truth, we know that. However, stuff like this sells newspapers better than "I'd like to buy the world a coke." Sigh!!! I could care less if they add more Francophone music or not. If they do, ok. If they don't, ok. Go Habs Go!!! |
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Post by Skilly on May 9, 2008 10:41:23 GMT -5
But back on topic, to answer your question - there are no other provinces that have anthems the same way Newfoundland does. Some have "songs" which have - more or less - taken up the roll of being a "provincial anthem" but it's not quite the same thing. Of all the provinces the only two I can think of are Nova Scotia ("Farewell to Nova Scotia") and Ontario (the name of which escapes me at the moment, but is a ridiculous sounding song that has something to do with Ontari-ari-ari-o). But again, it's strictly an unofficial thing. I don't think they ever sing them with the "national anthem" reverence given to the Ode. Of course, the Ode is a national anthem I suppose, even if the country doesn't exist any more. It still exists ... in the heart and soul of every Newfoundlander. Every time Spidey posts, it exists ... every time one of us stands up to fight when wronged, it exists. Thanks for the history lesson, I shouldnt have been lazy and just looked it up myself ... now how many other provinces have 8 official/unofficial flags?  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 9, 2008 11:37:07 GMT -5
Take out Ben's
The famous downtown deli is not worth saving, despite what the borough says
HENRY AUBIN, The Gazette
Published: Thursday, May 08
The downtown borough of Ville Marie is seeking to save the spirit, though not the actual bricks, of Ben's Delicatessen, the landmark eatery that closed its doors two years ago. Citing the three-storey building's heritage value, the borough's demolition committee ruled last month that the new owner could raze the building and construct a new one - a highrise tower - on condition that the new building's architecture evoke that of the original.
As an addendum the name must be changed to Benoit's.
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Post by OopyDoopy on May 12, 2008 19:56:09 GMT -5
Well to start they could start playing Bye Bye Mon Cowboy by Mitsou everytime we have to yank Carey Price. ;D ROFL! That was so needed when I read that.  best laugh in a while. ;D |
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Post by Doc Holliday on May 12, 2008 20:02:06 GMT -5
...it creates an equally strong reaction of "...these damn quebeckers and their stupid linguistic demands..." But see, it is just that. I wouldn't go so far as to say "those damn quebecers" (I'm more inclined to say "those damn idiots" and leave the quebecers out of it, as I'm sure not all quebecers think this way) but it is the protectionist - almost paranoid - nature of the language laws in Quebec and the various portions of the Quebec media who have a "Canada hates us" mentality that give rise to silly requests like this. I mean honestly, does anyone think that the French Canadian culture is going to die because they play English music at a Canadiens hockey game. Who here goes to a hockey game to listen to music? I was there for game two of the Flyers series and, quite frankly, I didn't go to hear whatever was playing. The only songs I remember are "In the Air Tonight" (and, although I don't know much Quebecois music, I severely doubt you could find a more appropriate song to do that piece with - it's got that whole creepy power to it that you don't even need to hear the words for) and "Where the Streets Have No Name" (which you could possibly replace, but again, I don't think Quebec is going to crumble because of one song). The rest of the night I was too busy cheering and trying to taunt the Flyers players (and the refs, who I thought called a lousy game) to notice what music was playing. Its ridiculous. You wouldn't suggest forcing Billy Joel or Madonna to perform x% of their songs in French. You can't suggest that the owners of the Molson Centre make the arena available at a cost so that small French acts can play. So why suggest that you mandate a certain percentage of French songs be played? It's this type of attitude that leads to intolerance and hatred. It's this type of attitude that leads to people who will go the grave of a former (and much beloved) Prime Minister and scrawl slogans of hate across it. It gives rise to the attitude that one culture is superior to another (a few years ago there was a Quebec minister who was quoted as saying that the rest of Canada had no culture - something which I, coming from Newfoundland, vehemently disagree with). And, in the end, if allowed to grow unchecked, it will lead to a division in the country that can not be healed. ...I do not wish to enter a political debate on this but the fact that you evidently feel protecting the French society within Canada is a trivial notion leaves me to believe that there is a lot that still needs to be accomplished in terms of bridging the gap between between us. Unfortunately guys like Brule help help widening that gap because he knows how to trigger reactions of of "...who cares..."... instead of "...hey wouldn't that be cool..." |
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Post by Skilly on May 13, 2008 7:15:02 GMT -5
The rest of the night I was too busy cheering and trying to taunt the Flyers players (and the refs, who I thought called a lousy game) to notice what music was playing. I've never seen an NHL game live (only NHL exhibition) but I rarely notice the music during AHL, or CHL games. If something "catchy" comes on I might notice, but about the only time I notice the music is when there is a penalty and they play "All by myself" and on the jumbotron they show the guy in the box. Or if they get 2 penalties and they play "Just the two of us". Or during the "kissing-cam". So if people really dont take notice to the music ... why does it matter what is being played? Why not play more instrumental music? Or french? It is a good way to promote local talent, IMO ..... I dont think anyone is asking English acts to sing in french. But why not play Vanessa Paradis? Or some up and coming artist? I also think "mandate" is the wrong word to use. I dont think many people are requesting a mandate, but more that to be truly "equal", to be truly considered "a bilingual" country that it should come natural and be a part of our society's fabric. I'm going to use an bad term here (for wont of a better one) but you "cater" to your audience. You wouldn't come to a "folk concert" in Newfoundland without hearing Irish/Newfoundland music ... so why would 10,000-12,000 Quebecois(e) (or more) be expected to hear mainstream American music? Someone there should have the foresight to say "Hey, we are in Quebec, maybe we should play some Quebecois(e) musique" But thats a two-way street. |
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Post by franko on May 13, 2008 8:59:05 GMT -5
I've never seen an NHL game live (only NHL exhibition) but I rarely notice the music during AHL, or CHL games. If something "catchy" comes on I might notice, but about the only time I notice the music is when there is a penalty and they play "All by myself" and on the jumbotron they show the guy in the box. Or if they get 2 penalties and they play "Just the two of us". Or during the "kissing-cam". Come to Ottawa -- impossible not to miss -- blaring and overpowering . . . and bad. I wonder if Buttman has mandated the music like he has mandated the teams' websires (cookie-cutter). Cotton-Eyed Joe and the Hockey Song every game . . . and you here the former if you watch a game too. Originality would be a little nice . . . go with local talent! Not professional, you say? Have you seen some of the on-ice antics? |
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Post by The New Guy on May 13, 2008 9:09:25 GMT -5
...I do not wish to enter a political debate on this but the fact that you evidently feel protecting the French society within Canada is a trivial notion leaves me to believe that there is a lot that still needs to be accomplished in terms of bridging the gap between between us. Unfortunately guys like Brule help help widening that gap because he knows how to trigger reactions of of "...who cares..."... instead of "...hey wouldn't that be cool..." I wouldn't want you drag you into one Doc. But I will say that I don't think protecting French is a trivial matter. I'm not sure of it's validity any more in the context of the whole 'global village' world we live in (that's another discussion), but within Canada I don't have a problem with trying to protect a culture from becoming 'swallowed' by the dominant culture of the country at large (granted I think there are other cultures that also deserve 'protection', but again - another discussion). I do, however, think that taking aim at meaningless things - such as the music played at hockey games, or the decorative signs in place at a Irish Pub - trivializes the whole issue. I don't think the survival of Quebecois French culture hinges on such things. I can't understand how it could. You want to protect your culture - that's fine. Coming from a culture that has its own problems surviving in this day and age I can see and understand that. But, quite frankly, they're doing it wrong. You can't force people to choose your culture. You can't force people to integrate or get out. That's not what culture is. People have to choose it. |
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Post by ropoflu on May 13, 2008 12:30:03 GMT -5
I agree that not all music is suited for hockey games, but looking at the list of current artists and creators produced by Montreal thriving music scene, you gotta acknowledge that there might be a missed opportunity here.
(Some bands listed are not originally from Montréal)
A-Trak
A Silver Mt. Zion
Alfa Rococo
Amon Tobin
Arcade Fire
Ariane Moffatt
Melissa Auf der Maur
AIDS Wolf
Bell Orchestre
Bran van 3000
The Besnard Lakes
Breastfeeders
Chromeo
Les Dales Hawerchuk
The Dears
Dee
DJ Champion
Dobacaracol
Duchess Says
Dumas
Do Make Say Think
Peter Elkas
Gatineau
Les Georges Leningrad
Ghislain Poirier
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Grimskunk
Carl Henry
Karkwa
Islands
Malajube
Me Mom and Morgentaler (not really current...)
Jérome Minière
Le Nombre
Numéro#
Lesbians on Ecstasy
Lhasa
The Local Rabbits
Loco Locass
The Lovely Feathers
The Luyas
Amy Millan
Navet Confit
La Patère Rose
Pépé
Sam Roberts
Sixtoo
Stars
The Stills
Sunset Rubdown
Tegan and Sara
Torngat
Tricot machine
Les Trois Accords
The Unicorns
We Are Wolves
Wolf Parade
Velvet Trench Vibes
Vulgaires Machins
Xavier Caféïne
Young Galaxy
and many, many more....
Don't tell me we couldn't tap into that talent pool to create an original soundtrack for the Habs. I would even go further as to mandate a few of these artists/bands to create Habs specific music. That would be awesome.
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Post by The New Guy on May 13, 2008 13:10:08 GMT -5
I dont think anyone is asking English acts to sing in french. But why not play Vanessa Paradis? Or some up and coming artist? I also think "mandate" is the wrong word to use. I dont think many people are requesting a mandate, but more that to be truly "equal", to be truly considered "a bilingual" country that it should come natural and be a part of our society's fabric. I'm going to use an bad term here (for wont of a better one) but you "cater" to your audience. You wouldn't come to a "folk concert" in Newfoundland without hearing Irish/Newfoundland music ... so why would 10,000-12,000 Quebecois(e) (or more) be expected to hear mainstream American music? Someone there should have the foresight to say "Hey, we are in Quebec, maybe we should play some Quebecois(e) musique" You make an interesting point there. Cater to your audience. Now let me step back for a minute. You made an interesting point. And yes, at a folk concert I would not expect to anything but folk music (and there's a whole subset of interesting points I can make about folk music in Newfoundland - you'd be amazed what passes for Comp Sci electives these days at Memorial - but I'll leave that for now as I'd be off on my own little tangent soon enough). But now ask yourself, how much Newfoundland music do I hear on OZFM? On HitsFM? K-Rock? Coast? Unless things have changed greatly since I left, the answer is somewhere just this side of negligible. Sure, you'll hear Great Big Sea more often than on the mainland, and Shaye from time to time. They probably play those two songs by Kim Stockwood twice a year (each). And over Christmas they'll do the Mummer's Christmas (I think that may actually be required by the CRTC). What about Newfoundland folk music? Again, with the exception of a couple hours early on Saturday morning on VOCM, what do you hear? Anything at all? Cue to your point. Cater to your audience. Well, I would suggest that perhaps the DJ at the Bell Centre is catering to his audience. Just like the radio stations in town do. They don't play Billy and the Bruisers because no one who listens to the radio wants to hear Bill and the Bruisers. Anecdotal support: On my first trip to Montreal a couple of years ago (to see the Habs lose to the Rangers) we were taken to the arena by a cabbie whose english was about as good as my french. Of course, because I was decked out in a Habs sweater and I could muster "la centre bell pour les jeux du hockey" we were fine, but my wife and I both noticed that he had an English station on the car radio (we noticed because the song was "Dinah-moe Hum" by Frank Zappa, which is probably not suitable for the virgin ears of some passengers). The point was that, although he spoke little to no english (although I suppose he could have just been screwing with us) he had an english radio station on playing english music. He wanted to listen to that. Not to whatever was on the French station. This is why there are government mandates about language in Quebec. Because it is perceived, and sometimes very rightly, that the masses would choose english before french. I can live with and understand that. That's why, while I personally take exception to the idea of a government mandating language, I don't object too strenuously to it. My comments are directed at those who seek out little niggling things, things that ultimately have little to no impact on the culture as a whole. And name calling while you're at it just engenders more disrespect and hatred. |
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best laugh in a while. ;D