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Post by Cranky on Jun 9, 2008 2:01:53 GMT -5
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Post by MC Habber on Jun 9, 2008 3:25:32 GMT -5
It's fake. I think this guy's explanation is correct, though he leaves a step out of his math - the 41J is the energy required to heat the water in the kernel from 30 degrees to 100 degrees, and it takes a further 316J to make it boil. So it would take 71 Watts of power being absorbed by the popcorn kernel to make it pop that quickly, and there's no way you can get that from 3 or 4 cell phones. Plausible? Let us do a little math.
Popcorn pops because the water in it turns to steam and a kernel is about 14% water. So, if we assume a kernel of popcorn weighs 1 gram, it has 0.13 grams of water. Heat that water from 30�C to 100�C would take:
(0.14g)*(100�C-3 to turn the water to steam requires he latent heat of vaporization, which is 2259J/g.
2259J*0.14g= 316J
for a total of 316J 41J = 357J.
Wattage = Joules/seconds. If it took about 5 seconds to turn the water in the popcorn kernel to steam, then the wattage required was:
357J/5sec = 71W assuming all power from the cell phone transmitter went into the kernel.
Cell phones typically have 0.75W-1W transmitters in them. With a 1W transmitter, it would take,
334J/1W = 334secs, if all power is transfered to the kernel.
You decide. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 9, 2008 18:26:56 GMT -5
It's fake. I think this guy's explanation is correct, though he leaves a step out of his math - the 41J is the energy required to heat the water in the kernel from 30 degrees to 100 degrees, and it takes a further 316J to make it boil. So it would take 71 Watts of power being absorbed by the popcorn kernel to make it pop that quickly, and there's no way you can get that from 3 or 4 cell phones. Plausible? Let us do a little math.
Popcorn pops because the water in it turns to steam and a kernel is about 14% water. So, if we assume a kernel of popcorn weighs 1 gram, it has 0.13 grams of water. Heat that water from 30�C to 100�C would take:
(0.14g)*(100�C-3 to turn the water to steam requires he latent heat of vaporization, which is 2259J/g.
2259J*0.14g= 316J
for a total of 316J 41J = 357J.
Wattage = Joules/seconds. If it took about 5 seconds to turn the water in the popcorn kernel to steam, then the wattage required was:
357J/5sec = 71W assuming all power from the cell phone transmitter went into the kernel.
Cell phones typically have 0.75W-1W transmitters in them. With a 1W transmitter, it would take,
334J/1W = 334secs, if all power is transfered to the kernel.
You decide.Has Ryder been talking on the cell phone in the press box?  |
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Post by Andrew on Jun 9, 2008 21:45:19 GMT -5
The first clip is somewhat believable, but the second one has some of the worst acting I've seen in a while. Not to mention the guy on the right with a couple of quick glances up at what must be a clock. I wonder what's underneath that table cloth.
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Post by habmeister on Jun 9, 2008 22:04:47 GMT -5
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Post by The New Guy on Jun 10, 2008 7:52:14 GMT -5
It's fake. I think this guy's explanation is correct, though he leaves a step out of his math - the 41J is the energy required to heat the water in the kernel from 30 degrees to 100 degrees, and it takes a further 316J to make it boil. So it would take 71 Watts of power being absorbed by the popcorn kernel to make it pop that quickly, and there's no way you can get that from 3 or 4 cell phones. Plausible? Let us do a little math.
Popcorn pops because the water in it turns to steam and a kernel is about 14% water. So, if we assume a kernel of popcorn weighs 1 gram, it has 0.13 grams of water. Heat that water from 30�C to 100�C would take:
(0.14g)*(100�C-3 to turn the water to steam requires he latent heat of vaporization, which is 2259J/g.
2259J*0.14g= 316J
for a total of 316J 41J = 357J.
Wattage = Joules/seconds. If it took about 5 seconds to turn the water in the popcorn kernel to steam, then the wattage required was:
357J/5sec = 71W assuming all power from the cell phone transmitter went into the kernel.
Cell phones typically have 0.75W-1W transmitters in them. With a 1W transmitter, it would take,
334J/1W = 334secs, if all power is transfered to the kernel.
You decide.Actually, those transmitters have one watt of power at the source. Power from a cell phone emitter diminishes according to the inverse cube function (I think, been awhile since my physics courses - might be inverse square). Since those kernels are not directly adjacent to the emitter (there's what - four or five centimeters separating them) you're going to get a hell of a lot less than 1 watt of energy delivered into the kernels. So fake it's not even funny. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 10, 2008 19:28:44 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do.
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Post by MC Habber on Jun 11, 2008 4:04:40 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do. Why am I not surprised that you're unsatisfied with a scientific explanation?  |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 11, 2008 8:06:00 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do. Why am I not surprised that you're unsatisfied with a scientific explanation? Scientific method...... Ask the "Question" Gather information (Research) Develop a hypothesis (Explanation). TEST the hypothesis. Hypothesis is either true or false. Either that or get the UN to form a "scientific" committee that will conclude that the third world needs cell phones and pop corn and the "rich" countries should pay for it.  |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 11, 2008 11:28:42 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do. Yep. No go. We even tried it with 6 cell phones (busy office hey?!) This myth is soooo BUSTED |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 11, 2008 18:36:10 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do. Yep. No go. We even tried it with 6 cell phones (busy office hey?!) This myth is soooo BUSTED There you go. Now we have a reliable source that confirms it. Oh wait......Doc, aren't you vice president of Nokia?  |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 11, 2008 20:16:00 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do. Wouldn't you need 6 phones? .... Three phones on the table and three other phones that call those phones to make them ring. |
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Post by cigarviper on Jun 11, 2008 21:38:08 GMT -5
Good Lord. Does the off season leave you guys with so little to do?
All of you get back to work.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 12, 2008 0:44:18 GMT -5
Is it true that Laff fans put cell phones in their crotch for a quick buzz?
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Post by MC Habber on Jun 13, 2008 15:09:48 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do. Wouldn't you need 6 phones? .... Three phones on the table and three other phones that call those phones to make them ring. The 4 phones could call each other. Every message board on this subject has people claiming to have done it.... they are all lying. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 13, 2008 17:35:48 GMT -5
Wouldn't you need 6 phones? .... Three phones on the table and three other phones that call those phones to make them ring. The 4 phones could call each other. Every message board on this subject has people claiming to have done it.... they are all lying. True .... but in the video only the woman is seen dialing on her phone. Unless the video started after they had dialed .... but that would be an awful delay on those phones. It is obviously fake .... |
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Post by MC Habber on Jun 13, 2008 20:11:43 GMT -5
The 4 phones could call each other. Every message board on this subject has people claiming to have done it.... they are all lying. True .... but in the video only the woman is seen dialing on her phone. Unless the video started after they had dialed .... but that would be an awful delay on those phones. It is obviously fake .... Couldn't you switch lines and call 2 phones at once? At any rate, I don't think the phones ringing is the fake part. 71W needed to pop that corn. Just think about how hot a 60W light bulb gets after a few seconds. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 14, 2008 8:49:07 GMT -5
Has somebody with four cell phones tried it? It isn't that hard to do. Wouldn't you need 6 phones? .... Three phones on the table and three other phones that call those phones to make them ring. Nope. All you need is enough phone lines to call out to your cells and enough bored programmers to try it. Which is why it is very easy to try in a software company setup. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 14, 2008 9:03:28 GMT -5
Yep. No go. We even tried it with 6 cell phones (busy office hey?!) This myth is soooo BUSTED There you go. Now we have a reliable source that confirms it. Oh wait......Doc, aren't you vice president of Nokia? No. VP of Jiffy Pop. Real PopCorn don't work with microwave... It's never been proven... Orvill is a fraud... His genetically modified popcorn gives throat cancer and testicular hernia and I have all the scientific backings right here oops that's the bribe money... ...now what does this remind you of :  ...YES, that's right, a phone... We have our R&D department working at making phone calls with it, using kernels for dial keys. And we're very close... The other day we reached Paris Hilton cell phone but before we knew it all the popcorn popped on us... We call it premature popping in the industry... I tell you, if they can make popcorn with cell phones, we'll make cell phones with popcorn... |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 14, 2008 10:07:19 GMT -5
True .... but in the video only the woman is seen dialing on her phone. Unless the video started after they had dialed .... but that would be an awful delay on those phones. It is obviously fake .... Couldn't you switch lines and call 2 phones at once? At any rate, I don't think the phones ringing is the fake part. 71W needed to pop that corn. Just think about how hot a 60W light bulb gets after a few seconds. I realize this ... I am just questioning the video. There is no evidence of who is calling the phones, but we are led to believe it is the woman. Can you get cell phones with multiple lines? |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 14, 2008 12:17:21 GMT -5
The other day we reached Paris Hilton cell phone but before we knew it all the popcorn popped on us... We call it premature popping in the industry... When you popped Paris's head, did you find anything that resembled brain matter? It is a sad comment on our society that people like Paris even exist in the public consciousness. |
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Post by MC Habber on Jun 14, 2008 14:11:12 GMT -5
Couldn't you switch lines and call 2 phones at once? At any rate, I don't think the phones ringing is the fake part. 71W needed to pop that corn. Just think about how hot a 60W light bulb gets after a few seconds. I realize this ... I am just questioning the video. There is no evidence of who is calling the phones, but we are led to believe it is the woman. Can you get cell phones with multiple lines? Actually I don't know if you can, come to think of it. But you should be able to. |
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