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Post by Skilly on Apr 14, 2009 11:09:19 GMT -5
I didn't see Souray as someone lost to free agency - I saw it more as a choice between Souray & Hamrlik. But what if we got no one which has happened an awful lot to this team, or someone worse .... Hamrlik was Gainey's 3rd or 4th choice that year, his first actually being Souray. At the trade deadline, Gainey had no idea who he could convince to come here, if anyone, ..... |
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Post by CrocRob on Apr 14, 2009 11:27:41 GMT -5
That being said, I do not understand this stance that some GMs have (Gainey, Lamoriello) to refuse to negotiate during the season. To me, it's an outdated strategy. It's not a perfect strategy but it does have some good points... #1 You don't alienate players in the season with negotations that could turn sour... #2 You don't create precedent by signing one guy and not the other. Say if Bob signs Komisarek during the season how does Koivu, Kovy, Tanguay feel? #3 You don't handcuff yourself for summer trade and signings. Say if Bob has his sight set on Vinny he needs a lot of cap leeway... But at the same time you give yourself assets that can be used for summer trades. I think it's pretty despicable to sign a guy to a contract and then trade him *coughLATampacough* but it seems to be acceptable practice nowadays. Komisarek's negotiations could have turned very sour, and at no point do I think Kovalev was so stellar to merit talks of re-signing him. Koivu is fine, and as has been demonstrated Gainey has even done a deal with Koivu during the season. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 14, 2009 14:01:13 GMT -5
It's not a perfect strategy but it does have some good points... #1 You don't alienate players in the season with negotations that could turn sour... #2 You don't create precedent by signing one guy and not the other. Say if Bob signs Komisarek during the season how does Koivu, Kovy, Tanguay feel? #3 You don't handcuff yourself for summer trade and signings. Say if Bob has his sight set on Vinny he needs a lot of cap leeway... But at the same time you give yourself assets that can be used for summer trades. I think it's pretty despicable to sign a guy to a contract and then trade him *coughLATampacough* but it seems to be acceptable practice nowadays. I'm pretty sure this is what happened with Marian Hossa. SHortly after he was signed, he was traded for Heatley. I'm not sure of teh exact time frame but it was a pretty tight interval. |
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Post by franko on Apr 14, 2009 14:22:04 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure this is what happened with Marian Hossa. SHortly after he was signed, he was traded for Heatley. I'm not sure of teh exact time frame but it was a pretty tight interval. That one was a bit different: it was a "sign-and-trade". Hossa wanted to be traded; ATL didn't want to deal with a free agent; Sens signed him at a rate ATL could accept and *bam* the exchange of uniforms |
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Post by jkr on Apr 14, 2009 15:08:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure this is what happened with Marian Hossa. SHortly after he was signed, he was traded for Heatley. I'm not sure of teh exact time frame but it was a pretty tight interval. That one was a bit different: it was a "sign-and-trade". Hossa wanted to be traded; ATL didn't want to deal with a free agent; Sens signed him at a rate ATL could accept and *bam* the exchange of uniforms Thanks. Didn't know Hossa wanted out of Ottawa. |
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Post by franko on Apr 14, 2009 19:39:49 GMT -5
all about the $$, which Ottawa wasn't going to give him.
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