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Post by CrocRob on Jan 16, 2009 19:54:48 GMT -5
I was just watching Hockeycentral prior to the Leafs game, and Watters and Kypreos both confirmed they've been hearing that Anaheim isn't rejecting inquiries for Pronger. They wouldn't go so far to say he's actually available... yet. But at this point Anaheim's not even a playoff team and faltering quite a bit.
Pronger would be a huge addition for the Habs. A much better fit than anyone else. He's got a shot, plays physical and meaner than Komi, great defensively, decent transition game and the contract comes off the books in July. And he's someone to help neutralize Chara's effect on the ice.
Bob.. get on the *!*!$&$! phone.
edit: His contract is up after next season, not this one. He has a $6.25M cap hit. Still doable.
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Post by jkr on Jan 16, 2009 20:28:25 GMT -5
I just saw this too & I'd love to see him in Montreal but I really wonder about his exit from Edmonton. What happened & would he play in Montreal?
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Post by CrocRob on Jan 16, 2009 20:30:52 GMT -5
I don't want to say anything for fear of breaking the libel rule but among the rumours is the theme that Edmonton was just too small a town for him and his wife. Montreal doesn't have that issue.
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Post by Douper on Jan 16, 2009 20:33:19 GMT -5
Wow, that would be sweet. I would imagine that it would take a lot less to land Pronger than it would Bowmeester. But did he not leave Edmonton because of his wife? (Not sure the exact story)
Let's say they take a package of young players.... McDonaugh, a foward, a pick....
This would be awesome:
Pronger - Markov Hammer - Gorges Komisarek - Bouillon *Breezer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 20:55:21 GMT -5
Wouldn't be a bad pick-up. He'd take out all of the other teams' forwards by stepping on their legs.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 16, 2009 21:11:42 GMT -5
We have not had a dirty SOB on the roster for a while.
He would be a welcome horse to the bleu-blanc-rouge.
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Post by BadCompany on Jan 17, 2009 13:26:59 GMT -5
I would love to have Pronger on our team, but I don't think Anaheim would be looking at a package of prospects and picks. While they are in danger of missing the playoffs, they are also in a tie for 5th place in the West, its that close. And I still think that any lineup that boasts Giguere, Pronger, Niedermeyer, Getzlaf, Perry, Selanne, Ryan, Kunitz and Paulson is a team I would want to avoid in the playoffs. If they're trading Pronger its to load up for a Cup run, in my opinion, and not to rebuild.
I would think it would take Komisarek, Higgins, and maybe Plekanec as well, to land Pronger and a throw-in (rights to Beauchemin?). Still something to consider, but it will be a heavy price.
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Post by OopyDoopy on Jan 17, 2009 22:19:29 GMT -5
I remember during the Oilers run to the finals I payed special attention to Pronger as I never really watched him much and wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I was very impressed with all the little things he did along with his mean streak and over all game, he is one hell of a player and would be number one on my list of acquisitions for our back end. He would be a great addition, not just because of all he offers but what he could teach our young defense. If Bob can only get one guy for the playoffs I take Pronger, then just before July 1 he can go get Lecavalier.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 17, 2009 23:20:45 GMT -5
Wow, that would be sweet. I would imagine that it would take a lot less to land Pronger than it would Bowmeester. But did he not leave Edmonton because of his wife? (Not sure the exact story) Let's say they take a package of young players.... McDonaugh, a foward, a pick.... This would be awesome: Pronger - Markov Hammer - Gorges Komisarek - Bouillon *Breezer Nice top 6... very intimidating.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 24, 2009 12:50:47 GMT -5
I thought twice about posting this when I saw Garrioch's name to the column, but what the heck. Garrioch is suggesting there's talk between Toronto and Anaheim involving Chris Pronger. The trade would make sense from a Leaf standpoint; Pronger is the type of player Burke covets and he'd be the perfect mentor for young Luke Shenn. What would it take to bring Pronger to Toronto? Garrioch suggests Tomas Kaberle. Might work, but I don't know the Anaheim cap situation. Cheers. slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/News/2009/01/24/8133851-sun.html (link)
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Post by jkr on Jan 24, 2009 13:06:23 GMT -5
I thought twice about posting this when I saw Garrioch's name to the column, but what the heck. Garrioch is suggesting there's talk between Toronto and Anaheim involving Chris Pronger. The trade would make sense from a Leaf standpoint; Pronger is the type of player Burke covets and he'd be the perfect mentor for young Luke Shenn. What would it take to bring Pronger to Toronto? Garrioch suggests Tomas Kaberle. Might work, but I don't know the Anaheim cap situation. Cheers. slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/News/2009/01/24/8133851-sun.html (link) I think this is a case of a lazy reporter making the easy connection - Pronger/Burke - after other outlets have already covered this story & have stopped talking about it. I have no faith in Garrioch' s reporting. I can't think of a single thing he's written ever coming to pass.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 24, 2009 13:06:41 GMT -5
I agree, jkr. Makes sense to jump to that conclusion. Any move from the Ducks would have a hotline to Burke...not that anything would happen, but the call would be seriously entertained.
When I saw this thread, I was going to post that I bet Burke goes after him....but I thought, if the Leafs are trying to rebuild, why take on a 34-year-old d-man? Wouldn't that be following the old Leafs' management model?
Yeah, as a mentor, I guess....but if it comes to it, I bet Pronger goes kicking and screaming. He's looking at the twilight of his career with a team on the rebuild in one of the most pressure-filled markets in the league.
Then again, he's already won a Cup, his wallet is nice and fat...and the Leafs will certainly add to that.
And if he continues to throw in the odd dirty hit...he'll fit right into Leafland. I remember Burke arguing Pronger's 1-game suspensions in their Cup run.
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Post by clear observer on Jan 24, 2009 15:04:42 GMT -5
Now THIS is a big, strong, mean, nasty, d-man capable of momentum-swinging play. Plays BOTH ends of the ice extremely well with great poise and composure. This is what ALL d-men grow up dreaming of becoming.
Pronger on THIS Hab team would make it SIGNIFICANTLY better provided the price iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis riiiiiiiiiiiight!
Markov - Komi Pronger - Gorges Hamrlik - Bouillon Brisebois
THAT looks a helluva lot better, don't it!?
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Post by The New Guy on Jan 24, 2009 16:07:12 GMT -5
I would take Pronger before almost any other player in the league (maybe a healthy Brodeur, or one of Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin long-term). I know some aspect of the media in Montreal would favour Prince Vince over Pronger - but they don't know what they're talking about. Defense wins cup and Pronger would change this defense from a middle-of-the-road bunch to possibly the best blue line corps in the league.
One thing though CO - I think I'd pair Pronger and Komisarek and reunite Markov and Gorges. Markov and Gorges worked well together while Mike was injured, and frankly - given their reputation (regardless of what you think of it, Mike's reputation is his reputation) - I think Pronger and Komisarek would dominate in the corners and in front of the net. Markov - Gorges could play against the second lines of the opposition, which would probably enable Markov to open up his offensive game.
I understand Pronger also has a good shot from the point - you think he might make a good replacement for Streit/Souray?
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Post by blny on Jan 24, 2009 21:54:26 GMT -5
TNG, interesting take.
Pronger does have a very hard shot. I wouldn't say he gets his slap shot off as quick as some, but he does well from the point.
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Post by jkr on Feb 4, 2009 18:51:04 GMT -5
Heard Burke talking about this. First he completely quashed the Pronger to Toronto rumors.
But it sounded like it would take a 1st round pick and a player to get him. Thought the price would be higher.
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Post by cigarviper on Feb 4, 2009 20:10:57 GMT -5
I'd like to think a Toronto first rounder is worth much more than a Montreal first rounder. I'd gladly give a player like Pleks and a prospect like Chips.
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Post by The New Guy on Feb 4, 2009 20:13:27 GMT -5
Heard Burke talking about this. First he completely quashed the Pronger to Toronto rumors. But it sounded like it would take a 1st round pick and a player to get him. Thought the price would be higher. If that's all it'd cost Bob had better be on the phone working that deal. Pronger takes us from outside contender in the East into a big freaking problem for any team that meets us.
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Post by The New Guy on Feb 4, 2009 20:15:29 GMT -5
I'd like to think a Toronto first rounder is worth much more than a Montreal first rounder. I'd gladly give a player like Pleks and a prospect like Chips. I would too. But if we give up Pleks and Chips we might have a minor issue with a lack of centres. Unless we convert Tanguay back.
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Post by cigarviper on Feb 4, 2009 20:26:30 GMT -5
We'd find a way to it work if this is the price. A Pronger isn't available but once in a rare blue moon. Instant impact on the much maligned pp and the toughest SOB in the crease there is. Ya gotta wonder if the little woman would like a cosmopolitan meca like la grande ville.
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Post by blny on Feb 4, 2009 21:51:38 GMT -5
I'd trade Pleks and Chips for him IF we had a deal for a center lined up. With Lang gone, Bob needs to be looking at a trade. Converting Tanguay to center doesn't really work for me. Yeah, he's a playmaker, but when's the last time he was relied on to take face offs? Lang gave us a right handed face off guy we could throw out there in specific situations. IMO it needs to be replaced.
So, if Pronger is available for that sort of price I'm working the phone hard. I'm also calling Long Island about Weight.
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Post by jkr on Feb 19, 2009 8:28:01 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2009 15:32:33 GMT -5
Pronger said recently that he isn't interested in a trade, that he'd like to stay where he is.
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 23, 2009 15:41:10 GMT -5
Rumours from some newspapers via TSN: - With Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli admitting he has a wishlist that includes eight names heading into the deadline, the Boston Globe picks eight for the Bruins to target, including: Chris Pronger, Keith Tkachuk, Erik Cole, Jay Bouwmeester, Tomas Kaberle, Nik Antropov, Dominic Moore and Fredrik Modin.
- As the Ducks embark on a six-game road trip, theLos Angeles Times suggests that Chris Pronger might not return to Anaheim with his teammates, noting that the Ducks should be happy to get a good young player and a first-round pick in return. Depending on the calibre of the young player, the Ducks may be able to get more than that.
- The Bucks County Courier Times says that the Flyers' rumoured interest in Chris Pronger won't subside, though it would require the Flyers to ship out significant salaries in order to create room. One Flyer mentioned as possible trade bait is third-line winger Scottie Upshall.
And on Niedermayer: - According to the New York Post, Ducks defenceman Scott Niedermayer has an understanding with Ducks management that he won't be dealt unless he requests it.
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 27, 2009 10:46:53 GMT -5
Not that I use SI.com regularly for NHL rumours, but I happened to see it and it comes from a Boston newspaper. linkIf you believe what you hear from various NHL sources, you can bet the Bruins had many sets of eyes trained last night on Anaheim Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger. And the Ducks were sizing up talent on the Bruins side, as well. It's believed the Ducks will deal away the multi-talented 34-year-old Pronger, and that the Bruins could be interested shoppers. That was certainly a hot topic at the Garden last night, site of the B's 6-0 victory. The obvious speculation is that the B's end of the deal would be young speedster Phil Kessel, their top goalscorer and one of the most dynamic offensive threats in the game.
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Post by clear observer on Feb 27, 2009 11:02:44 GMT -5
Not that I use SI.com regularly for NHL rumours, but I happened to see it and it comes from a Boston newspaper. linkIf you believe what you hear from various NHL sources, you can bet the Bruins had many sets of eyes trained last night on Anaheim Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger. And the Ducks were sizing up talent on the Bruins side, as well. It's believed the Ducks will deal away the multi-talented 34-year-old Pronger, and that the Bruins could be interested shoppers. That was certainly a hot topic at the Garden last night, site of the B's 6-0 victory. The obvious speculation is that the B's end of the deal would be young speedster Phil Kessel, their top goalscorer and one of the most dynamic offensive threats in the game.Yikes!
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 4, 2009 8:10:12 GMT -5
According to TSN: Anaheim has informed Pronger that he's not going anywhere.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 4, 2009 8:14:12 GMT -5
...and apparently NJ is making a big push to get Neids.
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