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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 2, 2009 12:25:55 GMT -5
According to Bob Mackenzie the Flyers are trying hard to move Briere in order to free cap space for another move.
Since he was Bob's #1 priority 2 summers ago AND we still need an offensive center in the system, does Gainey make a move ? Seeing how the Flyers are quite desperate, we'd probably be able to land him without touching our core...
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Post by CrocRob on Mar 2, 2009 12:29:21 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if Philly would help out a team near them in the East (see how I skirted around the term "contending"?) like that.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 2, 2009 12:32:24 GMT -5
I think we'd be able to use him, but would he fit in under the cap space we have remaining? Gainey would also have to make some hard decisions next year given the amount of UFAs we have and the possibility of the cap lowering as well.
Wouldn't hurt to ask, but it's that damn cap space that gets in the way.
Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Mar 2, 2009 12:34:46 GMT -5
Can't see how the Flyers would trade with the Habs at this stage of the season. And I don't know about that contract - 4 years left at an average cap hit of 6.5. The flyers had to shuffle the deck to get him into the lineup yesterday.
Perhaps, if it did get done, it could be a 3 way trade??
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Post by HFTO on Mar 2, 2009 12:35:53 GMT -5
I was on that band wagon a couple years ago but we don't need another high priced smurf who's been battling injuries the past two years.As tempting as it could be I'd shy away.
When he tossed the puck over the glass after Prices first shutout I lost alot of respect for lil Danny.
HFTO
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Post by CrocRob on Mar 2, 2009 12:36:05 GMT -5
It seems to me that a team with a smaller budget would be more interested. The bulk of Briere's contract is actually already paid out ($18M from last year and this one). Briere's remaining contract is $8M, $7M, $7M, $7M, $3M, $2M with a cap hit of $6.5M. It's a lot of money but you might realize some savings at the end of that deal.
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Post by franko on Mar 2, 2009 12:46:05 GMT -5
too much.
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Post by Marvin on Mar 2, 2009 12:49:57 GMT -5
Briere is not coming to Mtl - at least not via Philly.
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Post by Polarice on Mar 2, 2009 12:54:24 GMT -5
Briere is not coming to Mtl - at least not via Philly. Not to say he's coming...but Montreal and Philly are good friends when it comes to being trading partners. |
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Post by Marvin on Mar 2, 2009 12:56:55 GMT -5
Briere is not coming to Mtl - at least not via Philly. Not to say he's coming...but Montreal and Philly are good friends when it comes to being trading partners. "Good trading partners" Based on what? Why would Philly help out Mtl or vice versa? |
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Post by franko on Mar 2, 2009 13:46:26 GMT -5
Briere is not coming to Mtl - at least not via Philly. Not to say he's coming...but Montreal and Philly are good friends when it comes to being trading partners. I think Montreal has been more friendly to Philly than vice versa |
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Post by Polarice on Mar 2, 2009 14:28:19 GMT -5
Not to say he's coming...but Montreal and Philly are good friends when it comes to being trading partners. I think Montreal has been more friendly to Philly than vice versa Yeah they did takes us pretty good at least once. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 2, 2009 15:08:30 GMT -5
I think Montreal has been more friendly to Philly than vice versa Yeah they did takes us pretty good at least once. I disagree .... Recchi was just as valuable to our team (we were pretty weak) as LeClair was to Philly. Besides, when we traded Leclair he was no where what Lindros turned him into, and he could never have done that in Montreal with what we had ... |
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Post by Andrew on Mar 2, 2009 16:34:28 GMT -5
For it to work it would have to be a three way deal, as Montreal couldn't take on Briere's salary without shedding some - and sending salary back to Philly defeats the purpose of the deal from their point of view.
Can you trade an injured player to take his cap hit off your books? Perhaps a team like LA would take Lang's rights, plus some other compensation, to facilitate a three way deal.
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Post by OopyDoopy on Mar 2, 2009 17:11:47 GMT -5
For it to work it would have to be a three way deal, as Montreal couldn't take on Briere's salary without shedding some - and sending salary back to Philly defeats the purpose of the deal from their point of view. Can you trade an injured player to take his cap hit off your books? Perhaps a team like LA would take Lang's rights, plus some other compensation, to facilitate a three way deal. Lang's salary is already off the books I though, he is on LTIR is he not? Besides we have enough small soft injury prone players as it is and I would rather spend the 6.5 for a top 4 D or a big net crashing forward. |
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 3, 2009 8:13:59 GMT -5
I'd take Briere in a heartbeat. $6.5 million for a point-per-game center who excels in the playoffs? For sure. As pointed out above his contract is actually beneficial - we can trade his cap hit in a couple of years to a team looking to reach the cap minimum, but who doesn't actually want to spend that much money.
Plus, as has also been pointed out on numerous occassions, we need a transition plan for Koivu. Briere would be it (though I like the idea of Koivu finishing out his career here).
If we could get Briere without using a roster player I would be all over it. Then turn around and deal Plekanec, Higgins and the rights to Komisarek, with a prospect or two (say Fischer and Maxwell), to LA for Frolov and Jack Johnson.
snort, cough, huh? what's going on? sorry, I was dreaming for a second there... I hope I didn't say anything silly...
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Post by franko on Mar 3, 2009 8:24:48 GMT -5
why must you come up with such great though improbable/impossible options.
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 3, 2009 9:29:07 GMT -5
why must you come up with such great though improbable/impossible options. Um, possibly because I have suffered several moderate-to-severe concussions over the span of my life? |
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Post by clear observer on Mar 3, 2009 9:59:45 GMT -5
why must you come up with such great though improbable/impossible options. Um, possibly because I have suffered several moderate-to-severe concussions over the span of my life? He's also built several hundred model airplanes throughout his youth. True story. |
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Post by franko on Mar 3, 2009 13:35:55 GMT -5
He's also built several hundred model airplanes throughout his youth. True story. Well, that's his story anyway . . . I keep hearing about that model airplane collection but never see any of them . . . just the empty glue tubes . . . which probably led to several moderate-to-severe concussions over the span of my life? received from his mama smackin' him upside the head. |
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Post by Anardil1 on Mar 3, 2009 20:17:15 GMT -5
If I was an opposing GM, there's no way in hell I help the Flyers out of the salary cap hell they've put themselves in. Keep that rat faced little diver.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 3, 2009 21:57:46 GMT -5
I dunno. If they give us their 1st rounder and Brierre, for say Doug Janik, I might help them out of their problem. That's what you do with teams that have gotten themselves into Cap prison...you fleece them.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 4, 2009 8:00:38 GMT -5
I'd take Briere in a heartbeat. $6.5 million for a point-per-game center who excels in the playoffs? For sure. As pointed out above his contract is actually beneficial - we can trade his cap hit in a couple of years to a team looking to reach the cap minimum, but who doesn't actually want to spend that much money. Plus, as has also been pointed out on numerous occassions, we need a transition plan for Koivu. Briere would be it (though I like the idea of Koivu finishing out his career here). If we could get Briere without using a roster player I would be all over it. Then turn around and deal Plekanec, Higgins and the rights to Komisarek, with a prospect or two (say Fischer and Maxwell), to LA for Frolov and Jack Johnson. snort, cough, huh? what's going on? sorry, I was dreaming for a second there... I hope I didn't say anything silly......I actually think he'll end up here. Maybe not at this deadline but a good chance this summer IMO. The situation of Briere in Philly drastically changed, Denis Gauthier is traded and Martin Biron just used his NTC to nix a deal, his day are numbered as well... Those are 2 of Briere's friends that contacted him to convince to come over... We also know that Briere is now #3 in Philly's depth chart and when he signed there he clearly wanted to be THE guy. He's outa Philly that's for sure. Gainey clearly wanted him pretty badly 2 summers ago and I doubt that completely changed... Briere himself was signing with Montreal (Danny's father even confirmed to a radio station that it was done back then) until a last minute push by Philly changed everything. There might not be enough time or cap space to complete that deal now, but I get a feeling it could be revisited next summer when Gainey will have all the cap leeway in the world to do what he wants. |
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