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Post by Habit on Oct 4, 2003 13:44:24 GMT -5
Over the last couple of months we have debated back and forth, which league is best served to develope our prospects. Having never seen an AHL game, let alone a RHL game, I trying to figure out why the RHL is superior.
Mods can move this to the Non-Habs board later.
AHL
Rink same size as NHL
Coaches use NHL style
NHL clubs can watch and have input in developing player
Callup player to us in NHL for injurys
English is the main language spoken by coches in the AHL and NHL
Varity of players ages
NHL style drills
NHL rules (for the most part)
Young guys get trg from NHL veterins (Traverse, Audette, Dykhouse ect)
Most players picked by teams in the draft
Prospects can develope alongside teamates they will play with in the NHL
Benefit from an NHL Training Camp before shipped down to farm
RHL
Kids get to play with men (whom do not want to play in the NHL or were not good enough for the NHL)
Have a couple old experenced coaches
Can speek their own language for a few more years
Other than that, I cannot think of anything the RHL has over the AHL. You?
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Post by blaise on Oct 4, 2003 13:51:11 GMT -5
A much wider choice of good looking women, I'd say. I intend making my second visit to St. Petersburg next year, although not for the purpose of scouting the female talent.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Oct 4, 2003 13:56:43 GMT -5
What separates the two leagues is that the AHL is a minor pro league that is used to develop players for the NHL, and the RSL is not.
The Russian Super League is a professional league in its own right, as are pro leagues in other European countries. It is equivalent to the NHL. It and its member teams are under no obligation to cater to the whims of NHL teams. These teams operate for profit and the capture of their league championship, nothing else.
If Kostitsyn does or doesn't play is his team's coach's (Tikhonov) decision. The Habs' wishes carry no weight, since Kostitsyn's team's mandate is to do the best they can, with or without him.
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Post by Wildcat on Oct 4, 2003 18:09:24 GMT -5
A much wider choice of good looking women, I'd say. I intend making my second visit to St. Petersburg next year, although not for the purpose of scouting the female talent. Don’t they have catalogues for that?  |
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Post by Habit on Oct 4, 2003 21:20:26 GMT -5
What separates the two leagues is that the AHL is a minor pro league that is used to develop players for the NHL, and the RSL is not. Thanks Mr. Bozo. If this is true, then why do most of our posters say that the RHL is a better place for our Russian prospects than the AHL? If I were management, I'd get them over here ASAP. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Oct 4, 2003 22:49:44 GMT -5
If this is true, then why do most of our posters say that the RHL is a better place for our Russian prospects than the AHL? Well, in most cases the change of culture is sometimes too big to consider bringing them over here ASAP. Better to let them mature in Russia and bring them over when they are a little older(say bringing them over at 21 instead of at 18).. The other reason is obviously the fact they play against men in the RSL and in a league that is probably more talented than the AHL. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Oct 5, 2003 11:03:43 GMT -5
Thanks Mr. Bozo. If this is true, then why do most of our posters say that the RHL is a better place for our Russian prospects than the AHL? If I were management, I'd get them over here ASAP. Marc touched on a couple of reasons the RSL is preferred: home cooking and superior competition. Also there is the opportunity to learn at the knee of some very savvy coaches. Viktor Tikhonov, for instance, is an international legend. Now, if Scotty Bowman were to put himself behind the Hamilton bench... Besides, Russians are by and large a very patriotic people. |
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Post by Tattac on Oct 5, 2003 11:29:27 GMT -5
I have never seen AHL games so I can't really compare the two leagues. But I read a lot of interviews with Russian players where they were comparing the ways the game is played in the RSL and the AHL. All of them say that there is no real hockey in the AHL. Playing there helps to adapt to the life in North America and study English. The game is faster and they learn to use their bodies which is not very popular in Russia. But they all agree that if a player wants to develop his skills, it's better to stay in the RSL. Blaise, Russians believe that the most beautiful girls live in Ivanovo |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Oct 12, 2003 16:40:29 GMT -5
"Those players who want to play for our team have to follow the rules of the Russian national team. Not the rules of the German, Swedish or Canadian teams. When you come to play for our team, you have to follow the discipline which is the same for all. There will be no special treatment." That might be one of the reasons why some seasoned Russian NHL players are reluctant to play under Tikhonov's iron rules. - slam.canoe.ca/Slam031012/col_gross-sun.html |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Oct 17, 2003 1:21:14 GMT -5
I'm not certain, but doesn't the AHL have more emphasis on games and the RSL have more emphasis on practice and skills development? If this is true, Kastitsyn would be better served in Russia.
Russian women are preferable to the Britney Spears tinyboppers that idolize young AHL players. The Russian women can ride tractors and lift your car out of an icy rut in the snow. Russian women keep you warmer in the winter and they look just as good at three in the morning.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Oct 17, 2003 6:47:28 GMT -5
Two factors that often allow European players to jump right into the NHL at a younger age are; much more time spent practicing rather than playing games, and compeition against mature men in professional leagues.
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