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Post by habmeister on Apr 5, 2009 21:32:48 GMT -5
www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=416805"It's a strange dilemma because we have different scouts looking at different athletes in different leagues at different levels of competitiveness," Dr. Tarter said. "How in the world can you get one ranking of all your athletes across different kinds of positions? That's a tremendous challenge and that's why I'm here."
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Post by cigarviper on Apr 5, 2009 22:12:40 GMT -5
Is he talking about some kind of psychological profiling of prospects? hmmm
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Post by seventeen on Apr 5, 2009 23:54:51 GMT -5
I'd be concerned if my scouts weren't already watching for those kinds of characteristics. Somehow I don't think players who turn away from their checks, or lollygag back into the defensive zone are the kinds of guys we want high up the scouting chart.
Dr. Tartar's got a good thing going. Wonder if he moonlights as a dental equipment salesman?
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Post by habmeister on Apr 6, 2009 1:37:06 GMT -5
actually there is a very good book out now where a reporter followed columbus scouts for an entire season and was at all the interviews and big tournaments. he was surprised at how little scouts factor in psychological stuff as 99% of their notes are on their play from watching them live. they do very little digging on the kid, other than meet the parents, watch them on the ice, where you can usually see character.
message me to remind me of the title of the book as i have it here somewhere. it's a good read 17.
ciao
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Post by jkr on Apr 6, 2009 6:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 6, 2009 8:15:55 GMT -5
Is he talking about some kind of psychological profiling of prospects? hmmm I'd be surprised if the NHL wasn't already doing this. The NFL uses the "wunderlic" test to measure aptitude and problem-solving, but there are lots of standardized test that measure personalities and help teams identify high character individuals. I'm sure many here have taken the Myers-Briggs test which identfies key personality types (introvert vs. extrovert for example) - it's a great tool for self awareness and for managers to get an understanding of how their employees think and react to situations. Frankly, if Timmins/Gainey haven't been doing this kind of stuff it explains a lot. If they had dug a little deeper into the personalities of guys like the Kostitsyn brothers and maybe Plekanec, they may have made a different decision on drafting them. |
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Post by habmeister on Apr 6, 2009 21:17:29 GMT -5
yeah that's it, interesting read to say the least. especially the stuff about ian white. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 6, 2009 21:27:26 GMT -5
yeah that's it, interesting read to say the least. especially the stuff about ian white. yeah, he came across like a real jerk. |
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Post by PTH on Apr 6, 2009 22:41:22 GMT -5
Is he talking about some kind of psychological profiling of prospects? hmmm I'd be surprised if the NHL wasn't already doing this. The NFL uses the "wunderlic" test to measure aptitude and problem-solving, but there are lots of standardized test that measure personalities and help teams identify high character individuals. I'm sure many here have taken the Myers-Briggs test which identfies key personality types (introvert vs. extrovert for example) - it's a great tool for self awareness and for managers to get an understanding of how their employees think and react to situations. Frankly, if Timmins/Gainey haven't been doing this kind of stuff it explains a lot. If they had dug a little deeper into the personalities of guys like the Kostitsyn brothers and maybe Plekanec, they may have made a different decision on drafting them. Plekanec and Sergei are 3d and 7th round picks who made it to the bigs, IMO if they had to do it all over again, they'd definitely take them again. However, they might not choose Pleks over Ribeiro or count on Sergei to take over from Ryder so quickly.... As to Andrei.... well, the talent is there, the drive is sometimes.... while I can't say I'm enamored with his play, I can accept that drafting isn't a cut and dried analysis, and he could still be a 40-goal scorer.... but the fact that I'd take (over him) half the players taken in the rest of the first round after him shows we could have done much better :-\ |
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