|
|
Post by montreal on Nov 25, 2003 14:57:53 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2003 22:47:33 GMT -5
Milroy and Ferland are two players I really would like to see in the Habs roster soon. Ferland could be a great powerforward, but his problem seems to be similar as that to Ward and Dagenais: poor skating. Somebody teach these boys to skate!  |
|
|
|
Post by montreal on Nov 27, 2003 1:28:26 GMT -5
Milroy and Ferland are two players I really would like to see in the Habs roster soon. Ferland could be a great powerforward, but his problem seems to be similar as that to Ward and Dagenais: poor skating. Somebody teach these boys to skate! I didn't notice any real problems with either one of their skating. Milroy needs to be a bit faster, so create some room between him and backcheckers. While Ferland's skating wasn't bad, but he could use some help in the speed department as well. I'm not saying either are great skaters, cause they aren't but they are only 20, and should hopefully get better over the next few years. I expect them to be an important part of the Bulldogs next season, who knows from there. |
|
|
|
Post by Rimmer on Nov 27, 2003 3:01:05 GMT -5
so Milroy is not playing regularly because the likes of Blouin and Dwyer are on the farm team? why Andre, why  ? R. |
|
|
|
Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 27, 2003 6:34:01 GMT -5
so Milroy is not playing regularly because the likes of Blouin and Dwyer are on the farm team? why Andre, why ? R. Well, Blouin and Dwyer are both seasoned pros  and Milroy is a raw rookie. However, as you likely know, in the days before refigeration meat was often heavily seasoned in order to disguise the fact that it was going bad. Time for some fresh meat on the farm, indeed. |
|
|
|
Post by montreal on Nov 27, 2003 14:30:53 GMT -5
so Milroy is not playing regularly because the likes of Blouin and Dwyer are on the farm team? why Andre, why ? R. Milroy isn't playing cause Balej, then Perezhogin are the top two RW's. Then you have Tama's Somerveri, who has to play a good bit I would think. Then you have Milroy and Ferland. Also Milroy isn't playing much, cause you have Higgins, Perezhogin, Ferland, Milroy, all 1st year pros, which is a lot of young forwards to play at one time. It seems that Milroy is getting more ice time slowly, but I had noticed before a sort of rotation between Ferland and Milroy, with Ferland getting more ice time. |
|
|
|
Post by Rimmer on Nov 28, 2003 6:03:19 GMT -5
Milroy isn't playing cause Balej, then Perezhogin are the top two RW's. Then you have Tama's Somerveri, who has to play a good bit I would think. Then you have Milroy and Ferland. Also Milroy isn't playing much, cause you have Higgins, Perezhogin, Ferland, Milroy, all 1st year pros, which is a lot of young forwards to play at one time. It seems that Milroy is getting more ice time slowly, but I had noticed before a sort of rotation between Ferland and Milroy, with Ferland getting more ice time. the question for me is simple: "Do we play both Dwyer and Blouin?". if the answer is yes, then I have a problem with it. I can't accept your argument of having too many 1st year pros as a reason for sitting Milroy. this is a farm team where you develop your prospects and there's no way you sit a prospect to play 2 really bad NHL goons that are FAs to be and are not even considered leaders or possible callups to the big team in case of injuries. and so what if we had 4 RWs already in the lineup? are you telling me that none of them, or Milroy for that matter, can play on the left side? it's not like all of our LWs are future NHLers. Hossa (Dagenais), Olvestad, Blouin, Dwyer, Carpentier. we don't need more than one of the last 3 in the lineup at any time. R. |
|
|
|
Post by montreal on Nov 28, 2003 17:44:00 GMT -5
the question for me is simple: "Do we play both Dwyer and Blouin?". if the answer is yes, then I have a problem with it. I can't accept your argument of having too many 1st year pros as a reason for sitting Milroy. this is a farm team where you develop your prospects and there's no way you sit a prospect to play 2 really bad NHL goons that are FAs to be and are not even considered leaders or possible callups to the big team in case of injuries. and so what if we had 4 RWs already in the lineup? are you telling me that none of them, or Milroy for that matter, can play on the left side? it's not like all of our LWs are future NHLers. Hossa (Dagenais), Olvestad, Blouin, Dwyer, Carpentier. we don't need more than one of the last 3 in the lineup at any time. R. Well first off, it's Dwyer, Blouin and Carpentier, as all 3 play the same role to different degrees. Dwyer seems to be very liked by Jarvis, but I heard a comment from Savard when Dwyer was sent down, he said that Dwyer will be an important part of the Dogs. It's not word for word, but I wonder how much say Savard has, as he is the GM of the Dogs. In the games I was at, Dwyer was useless. Yes he hit's a lot, but hockey skills he doesn't have. Blouin doesn't play much, as Carpentier and Blouin seem to rotate, while Dwyer gets a regular shift on the 3rd or 4th line. Now as for having too many rookies, I am going off what I heard Jarvis talk about in a radio interview back when the season just started. But also the Dogs have a great shot at winning it all. Sure you can sit on the board and say play the rookies to develop them, but this is a pro team, and winning in the playoffs generates money and a good bit of it. They are in a business, and it's comon to see the top AHL team with a good portion of vets. In Milroy's case, I saw him play right after he came back from injury, and you could see he was a step behind, which is understandable being as though he missed some of camp and the first few weeks of the season. Can he play LW? I'm sure he can be used there, and he has been I think, I'm really not sure if he has, but you have Dagenais (now Hossa) on the top LW, then Higgins as 2nd LW, Higgins Plekanec Perezhogin has been a line over the last few games. Then you have Olvestad, and I would think that the Tampa players have to play a certain amount, cause neither one of them looked good in any of the games I was at, yet they haven't missed a game. But I wasn't paying much attention to them either. The point is, the Dogs are a top team in the league, have a deep roster, a good bit of 1st and 2nd year forwards, and a guy coming off injury, it's not hard to think ice time is tough to come by. I think it's very similiar to Balej's season last year. |
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Nov 28, 2003 22:24:02 GMT -5
I saw Milroy a few times in juniour and he was quite dangerous coming down the left side. Might be a good idea to move him.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rimmer on Nov 30, 2003 6:58:15 GMT -5
Sure you can sit on the board and say play the rookies to develop them, but this is a pro team, and winning in the playoffs generates money and a good bit of it. They are in a business, and it's comon to see the top AHL team with a good portion of vets. OK, that's a good argument and I'm OK with it in principle but tell me do you think Bloiun/Carpentier can contribute more to the team than Milroy? I mean, how many useless goons do you need in the lineup? as I said, one of Dwyer/Blouin/Carpentier I can live with but more than that? I thought that Higgins was moved back to center since Svitov has been recalled to Tampa? who is the 3rd line center then? as I said, I have no problem with that, let the best players play. but I don't consider Blouin and Carpentier being better than Milroy. but I may be wrong about that... R. |
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Nov 30, 2003 18:14:12 GMT -5
Milroy may not be much better than they are right now...and I mean that from the standpoint that his injury may not have totally healed. A healthy Milroy and its a slam dunk. Out goes the goon, in comes Duncan. In Jarvis' defense, Milroy has been dressed a little more now that he's 'healed'. Perhaps with a little more experience, we will have seen the last of two goons on the team.
|
|
|
|
Post by montreal on Nov 30, 2003 20:01:28 GMT -5
Milroy picked up his 1st pro point with an assist last night. He played on the 4th line with limited ice time.
|
|
|
|
Post by montreal on Nov 30, 2003 20:11:00 GMT -5
OK, that's a good argument and I'm OK with it in principle but tell me do you think Bloiun/Carpentier can contribute more to the team than Milroy? I mean, how many useless goons do you need in the lineup? as I said, one of Dwyer/Blouin/Carpentier I can live with but more than that? I thought that Higgins was moved back to center since Svitov has been recalled to Tampa? who is the 3rd line center then? as I said, I have no problem with that, let the best players play. but I don't consider Blouin and Carpentier being better than Milroy. but I may be wrong about that... R. Last night Blouin sat, Dwyer played (Jarvis seems to really like him) and Carpentier played. Here are the lines with some comments from a poster at HF who goes to the gamses. Hossa Plekanec Balej Made some very nice plays. Hossa showed a lot of hustle, which was a nice change, compared to what I have seen from him. Plekanec is back to AHL stardom, making plays, nice passes, hes off his slump. Balej is still a great skater, and together this line was tremendos. Suomervuori Higgins Perezhogin Higgins has been good, he is a very good prospect, with tones of upside. Got a few break aways. Perezhogin is lacking hustle, but shot A LOT, and he has a HARD ASS SHOT. Dwyer/Olvestad Ferland Good 3rd line, Ferland threw his weight around. This line was good defensive. Carpentier Milroy Higgins/Plekanec |
|
?
and Milroy is a raw rookie. However, as you likely know, in the days before refigeration meat was often heavily seasoned in order to disguise the fact that it was going bad. Time for some fresh meat on the farm, indeed.