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Post by halihab on Dec 13, 2009 10:43:30 GMT -5
I just can't imagine why she would take him back. It's just too humiliating. Well, if it was me and Mr. Val had been doing the man-wh*re thing with 10 to 13 other women, he would be out on his a$$. One is bad enough, but 10 to 13? That is something I cannot forgive, much less forget. Elin might tell herself (and Tiger) that she is willing to forgive, but I can almost guarantee you that she will never forget... not with him being so famous and the media being so inquisitive [that's putting it nicely]. And even if she starts to forget... all she has to do is go on the internet, where Tiger's shame will live forever... But I'm sure $$$ can buy a lot of forgiveness. Never having had a ton of $$$, I really can't say what someone in Elin's position is willing to put up with  Well said Val. IMO - she will never truly forgive him and I predict they will be split within a year. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 13, 2009 12:18:13 GMT -5
I just can't imagine why she would take him back. It's just too humiliating. Well, if it was me and Mr. Val had been doing the man-wh*re thing with 10 to 13 other women, he would be out on his a$$. One is bad enough, but 10 to 13? That is something I cannot forgive, much less forget. Elin might tell herself (and Tiger) that she is willing to forgive, but I can almost guarantee you that she will never forget... not with him being so famous and the media being so inquisitive [that's putting it nicely]. And even if she starts to forget... all she has to do is go on the internet, where Tiger's shame will live forever... But I'm sure $$$ can buy a lot of forgiveness. Never having had a ton of $$$, I really can't say what someone in Elin's position is willing to put up with But if Mr Val was worth 1 billion dollars and you had signed a pre-nuptial that said if you left him for any reason that you get peanuts, and Mr Val told you after you found out that he would change the pre-nuptial to give you $100 million if you stay with him for a period of time ... you would re-think kicking him out on his a$$ I think. Cause you dont have to love him, or even sleep with him, just stay with him .... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 13, 2009 13:31:03 GMT -5
I feel for any kids who have to grow up surrounded by stuff like this. I'm not just talking about infidelity, that's bad enough, but the media bombardment surrounding it.
I think everyone regardless who they are, benefit from a little humilty but there's a limit. How do you shelter the kids from the endless media coverage, gossip and heresay? It's all fueled by the media and they're probably going to have to live through this for years after the dust finally settles (if it ever does at all). IMO, this is where the real damage is being done.
Just my opinion.
Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Dec 13, 2009 14:29:47 GMT -5
Well, if it was me and Mr. Val had been doing the man-wh*re thing with 10 to 13 other women, he would be out on his a$$. One is bad enough, but 10 to 13? That is something I cannot forgive, much less forget. Elin might tell herself (and Tiger) that she is willing to forgive, but I can almost guarantee you that she will never forget... not with him being so famous and the media being so inquisitive [that's putting it nicely]. And even if she starts to forget... all she has to do is go on the internet, where Tiger's shame will live forever... But I'm sure $$$ can buy a lot of forgiveness. Never having had a ton of $$$, I really can't say what someone in Elin's position is willing to put up with But if Mr Val was worth 1 billion dollars and you had signed a pre-nuptial that said if you left him for any reason that you get peanuts, and Mr Val told you after you found out that he would change the pre-nuptial to give you $100 million if you stay with him for a period of time ... you would re-think kicking him out on his a$$ I think. Cause you dont have to love him, or even sleep with him, just stay with him .... Is that worth her self respect? |
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Post by goingfornumber25 on Dec 13, 2009 15:12:21 GMT -5
prenups mean very little once you have kids, he'd have to support her and the kids to have the same "lifestyle" they would if they were together. either way she's a multi millionaire. i find it hard to believe that someone would marry someone like tiger strictly for love. i have a buddy that is fat, pretty much ugly, but he's loaded and has a wife that's a 10, we all know what she sees in him and it isn't his triple chin. now if one day in the future he would cheat on her she'd probably stick with him, yes she's his wife, but she loves the lifestyle and knows she's easily replaceable.
these kinds of relationships are more like business. different story if she was with him before he was famous.
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Post by Skilly on Dec 13, 2009 16:10:55 GMT -5
prenups mean very little once you have kids, he'd have to support her and the kids to have the same "lifestyle" they would if they were together. either way she's a multi millionaire. i find it hard to believe that someone would marry someone like tiger strictly for love. i have a buddy that is fat, pretty much ugly, but he's loaded and has a wife that's a 10, we all know what she sees in him and it isn't his triple chin. now if one day in the future he would cheat on her she'd probably stick with him, yes she's his wife, but she loves the lifestyle and knows she's easily replaceable. these kinds of relationships are more like business. different story if she was with him before he was famous. That's in the absence of a pre-nup .... no pre-nup and he has to maintain her lifestyle. That's what pre-nups are for, so she signs away those rights ....and the money is protected. |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 13, 2009 17:27:33 GMT -5
But if Mr Val was worth 1 billion dollars and you had signed a pre-nuptial that said if you left him for any reason that you get peanuts, and Mr Val told you after you found out that he would change the pre-nuptial to give you $100 million if you stay with him for a period of time ... you would re-think kicking him out on his a$$ I think. Cause you dont have to love him, or even sleep with him, just stay with him .... Is that worth her self respect? Good question. 1) Mr. Val is not worth 1 billion 2) We don't have children 3) How do I ever show my face again in public if I stay with him? Bad enough, media-wise, if I leave, but if I stay? Women's groups would be all over my a$$  I still would like to think that I would leave. No amount of money is worth compounding shame upon shame, imo. So as Mr. Val is fond of saying whenever I go on too much about Cammy: "See ya!" I am very glad that I lead a boring, suburban lifestyle right about now  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 13, 2009 19:24:52 GMT -5
I just can't imagine why she would take him back. It's just too humiliating. Well, if it was me and Mr. Val had been doing the man-wh*re thing with 10 to 13 other women, he would be out on his a$$. One is bad enough, but 10 to 13? That is something I cannot forgive, much less forget. Elin might tell herself (and Tiger) that she is willing to forgive, but I can almost guarantee you that she will never forget... not with him being so famous and the media being so inquisitive [that's putting it nicely]. And even if she starts to forget... all she has to do is go on the internet, where Tiger's shame will live forever... But I'm sure $$$ can buy a lot of forgiveness. Never having had a ton of $$$ I really can't say what someone in Elin's position is willing to put up with 8 Hail Mary's, an asprin and don't do it again. Maybe we can call it an illness, sex addiction mental condition, it's not his fault that he's sick. True love should trump stupid actions. If they are really in love....yadda, yadda. If this was Iraq, it would be her fault that he philandered. She shoulda worn a burka. Beat her on the soles of her feet. 1. It's worth another try. 2. It probably won't work out long term. 3. He has more to lose than she does. Beautiful wife, mother. Emotional in spades. I'd be scared to close my eyes beside her in bed. 4. He can always find a pretty hooker, but will he be satisfied. This is an unfortunate situation where everybody loses (except the sleezy lawyers and unreliable hookers). Good fodder for jokes but no joy in mudville. Hope it works out but not betting on it.... |
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Post by jkr on Dec 13, 2009 20:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Dec 14, 2009 0:07:40 GMT -5
We were having dinner with two other couples. So one of them starts up a conversation about Tiger woods. My wife and I are not saying a thing. Five minutes later, somebody noticed that we were bored. So when my wife was asked dierectly what she though, she responded..."why the hell should I care about Tiger Woods and where he sticks it?" Yup, she's my gal!
So I ask...why is Tiger Woods such an important conversation that it leads the news, blogs and table chattering?
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Post by goingfornumber25 on Dec 14, 2009 1:41:01 GMT -5
prenups mean very little once you have kids, he'd have to support her and the kids to have the same "lifestyle" they would if they were together. either way she's a multi millionaire. i find it hard to believe that someone would marry someone like tiger strictly for love. i have a buddy that is fat, pretty much ugly, but he's loaded and has a wife that's a 10, we all know what she sees in him and it isn't his triple chin. now if one day in the future he would cheat on her she'd probably stick with him, yes she's his wife, but she loves the lifestyle and knows she's easily replaceable. these kinds of relationships are more like business. different story if she was with him before he was famous. That's in the absence of a pre-nup .... no pre-nup and he has to maintain her lifestyle. That's what pre-nups are for, so she signs away those rights ....and the money is protected. i was wrong, not her "her" lifestyle, the childrens, and since 9/10 the mother gets the kids then he'll have to give her money in which for them to maintain his lifestyle. which basically still means she'd be getting about 500k?/month. "child support cannot be established via a prenup. The support of the child must be based upon the needs of the child at the time of the child support judgment and not at the time of the prenup. A judge will use appropriate guidelines and calculations at the time of the divorce to set a child support obligation." |
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Post by franko on Dec 14, 2009 7:07:34 GMT -5
So I ask...why is Tiger Woods such an important conversation that it leads the news, blogs and table chattering? Because it is easier to talk about hte trivial than to actually think and have a meaningful conversation? |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 9:57:12 GMT -5
That's in the absence of a pre-nup .... no pre-nup and he has to maintain her lifestyle. That's what pre-nups are for, so she signs away those rights ....and the money is protected. i was wrong, not her "her" lifestyle, the childrens, and since 9/10 the mother gets the kids then he'll have to give her money in which for them to maintain his lifestyle. which basically still means she'd be getting about 500k?/month. "child support cannot be established via a prenup. The support of the child must be based upon the needs of the child at the time of the child support judgment and not at the time of the prenup. A judge will use appropriate guidelines and calculations at the time of the divorce to set a child support obligation." Yes, the children's lifestyle have to be maintained ... but with good lawyer's (and I suppose Tiger can afford one of those ), her's can be limited and ensure it is the children that receive the benefit. There is quite a difference from $10,000 - $100,000 a month (really now, what's a child going spend $500k per month on?) ... and $100 million lump sum, right now. Another thing. Elin can not bank the "excess" child support as her own ... if Tiger determines the lifestyle is being maintained on less, he can go back to court .... and even if she is banking the "excess" , when the kids reach 18, the money is cut off .... so how much can she save in 15 years? I would also assume, (if there is indeed a pre-nup) that Tiger's lawyers would want to see receipts of the expenditures. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 14, 2009 11:48:26 GMT -5
So I ask...why is Tiger Woods such an important conversation that it leads the news, blogs and table chattering? Because it is easier to talk about hte trivial than to actually think and have a meaningful conversation? It's all about the attention and more specifically about the money that attention brings in. ... and we think there's money in oil  Cheers. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 14, 2009 20:38:05 GMT -5
I just can't imagine why she would take him back. It's just too humiliating. Well, if it was me and Mr. Val had been doing the man-wh*re thing with 10 to 13 other women, he would be out on his a$$. One is bad enough, but 10 to 13? That is something I cannot forgive, much less forget. Elin might tell herself (and Tiger) that she is willing to forgive, but I can almost guarantee you that she will never forget... not with him being so famous and the media being so inquisitive [that's putting it nicely]. And even if she starts to forget... all she has to do is go on the internet, where Tiger's shame will live forever... But I'm sure $$$ can buy a lot of forgiveness. Never having had a ton of $$$, I really can't say what someone in Elin's position is willing to put up with You have to remember what made him so good in the first place. Practice, practice, practice.......... |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 15, 2009 10:35:57 GMT -5
As if Woods needs this item to come forward.... Article(Dr.) Galea has developed a reputation among elite athletes for accelerating recovery after surgery or for helping them avoid surgery altogether by using a blood-spinning technique known as platelet-rich plasma therapy, as well as other pioneering procedures, on knees, elbows and Achilles’ tendons.Unfortunately..... A Toronto doctor (Dr. Galea) who has treated many NFL players as well as Olympic medalists like Donovan Bailey and the world’s top golfer, Tiger Woods, is under criminal investigation in the United States. He is suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs, according to several people who have been briefed on the investigation.Don't shoot the messenger...I'm of the mind that his treatment of Woods was restricted to the platelet-rich plasma therapy. Interesting to see if the investigation becomes even more intense, seeing as Woods is in the spotlight. Just reporting updates in this saga. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 15, 2009 12:15:02 GMT -5
As if Woods needs this item to come forward.... Article(Dr.) Galea has developed a reputation among elite athletes for accelerating recovery after surgery or for helping them avoid surgery altogether by using a blood-spinning technique known as platelet-rich plasma therapy, as well as other pioneering procedures, on knees, elbows and Achilles’ tendons.Unfortunately..... A Toronto doctor (Dr. Galea) who has treated many NFL players as well as Olympic medalists like Donovan Bailey and the world’s top golfer, Tiger Woods, is under criminal investigation in the United States. He is suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs, according to several people who have been briefed on the investigation.Don't shoot the messenger...I'm of the mind that his treatment of Woods was restricted to the platelet-rich plasma therapy. Interesting to see if the investigation becomes even more intense, seeing as Woods is in the spotlight. Just reporting updates in this saga. A whole new area of PERFORMANCE ENHANCING. ps. Do you have a phone number for the good doctor? ;D |
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Post by franko on Dec 17, 2009 9:54:42 GMT -5
the car accident was the result of a train wreck called his life.
just waiting for someone to come out and say that it isn't his fault, because of all the pressure put on him by his father and his fans.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 17, 2009 10:09:07 GMT -5
the car accident was the result of a train wreck called his life. just waiting for someone to come out and say that it isn't his fault, because of all the pressure put on him by his father and his fans. Heard talk on the Fan 590 that a. his wife will file for divorce ( People magazine...and major news outlets saying it comes from a good source.....but "Duh"......  ) AND b. that his father cheated on his mother as well. ArticleI'm waiting for Oprah or Dr. Phil to devote an exclusive hour to him. Powerful people in the world of public opinion and "understanding". And then it'll be Leno, Conan, Letterman....the usual circuit for image repair. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 17, 2009 14:55:40 GMT -5
i was wrong, not her "her" lifestyle, the childrens, and since 9/10 the mother gets the kids then he'll have to give her money in which for them to maintain his lifestyle. which basically still means she'd be getting about 500k?/month. "child support cannot be established via a prenup. The support of the child must be based upon the needs of the child at the time of the child support judgment and not at the time of the prenup. A judge will use appropriate guidelines and calculations at the time of the divorce to set a child support obligation." Yes, the children's lifestyle have to be maintained ... but with good lawyer's (and I suppose Tiger can afford one of those ), her's can be limited and ensure it is the children that receive the benefit. There is quite a difference from $10,000 - $100,000 a month (really now, what's a child going spend $500k per month on?) ... and $100 million lump sum, right now. Another thing. Elin can not bank the "excess" child support as her own ... if Tiger determines the lifestyle is being maintained on less, he can go back to court .... and even if she is banking the "excess" , when the kids reach 18, the money is cut off .... so how much can she save in 15 years? I would also assume, (if there is indeed a pre-nup) that Tiger's lawyers would want to see receipts of the expenditures. I think this says more about us than Tiger Woods. We delve into the details and enjoy the misfortune of others. If a clown slips on a banana peel it's funny. If we slip and twist an ankle it's a misfortune. Sweeden has a tax system that encouraged ABBA to relocate to Switzerland. Elin better seek advice about where she sets up home. Tiger is not likely to continue making money at the same rate as before. It may not be hard to live off his winnings, but that pales in comparison to his past endorsement income. Will Tiger continue to live in the manner to which he has become acustomed? As a single man he may find himself going out more often. In order to save the marriage, Tiger was willing to meet Elin more than half way. He offered to make the cut from 18 girlfriends to 6. She wouldn't take the strokes. Makes you wonder what happened when Tiger missed the cut after making it 40 tournaments in a row? In reality, Tiger lived well below his means. Elin was a nanny and could live very well on a million a year. Neither of them lived like Madoff. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 18, 2009 14:17:14 GMT -5
This was getting passed around the office today
Tiger Woods Holiday Poem
Twas the night of Thanksgiving and out of the house
Tiger Woods came a flyin', chased by his spouse.
She wielded a nine iron and wasn't too merry,
Cause a bimbo’s phone number was in his Blackberry.
He’d been cheatin' on Elin, and the story progressed.
Woman after woman stepped up and confessed.
He’d been cheatin’ with Holly, and Jaimee, and Cori,
With Joselyn, and Kalika. The world had the story.
From the top of the Tour to the basement of blues,
Tiger’s sad sordid tale was all over the news.
With hostesses, waitresses, he had lots of sex,
When not in their pants, he was sendin' them texts.
Despite all his cryin’ and beggin' and pleadin',
Tiger’s wife went investin' -- a new home in Sweden.
And I heard her exclaim from her white Escalade,
"If you’re gettin' laid then I’m gettin' paid."
She’s not pouting, in fact, she is of jolly good cheer,
Her prenup made Christmas come early this year.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 1, 2010 17:55:33 GMT -5
Reports abound that Woods paid Rachel Uchitel $10 million to keep quiet about their affair.
What money and fame can get you.
Everything from sex to silence.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 1, 2010 18:39:41 GMT -5
He got so sick of playing the same hole over and over at home, he had to come back to the PGA tour for new ones.
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