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Post by Bob on Nov 26, 2003 21:18:48 GMT -5
According to the announcers, Higgins just scored the most beautiful goal of the season to tie the game. Perezhogin and Ferland picked up the assists so it looks like he is playing centre tonight.
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Post by montreal on Nov 26, 2003 21:21:29 GMT -5
He is. Hossa Gratton Balej is the 1st line. It was Plekanec on the 2nd line, but I guess Ferland got moved up. Hainsey's had a few shots, and a few checks in the game as well. The 1st line hasn't done much though. Also Milroy got robbed on what seemed to be a clear goal, don't know how he missed.
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Post by montreal on Nov 26, 2003 21:32:49 GMT -5
Dogs lose 3-1 with an empty net goal to seal the deal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2003 22:18:53 GMT -5
They just dropped their second in a row, it seems.
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Post by madhabfan II on Nov 26, 2003 22:38:28 GMT -5
I was at the game. Pretty dissapointing. Bulldogs were outshot 29-19.
I thought Fichaud played really well, and the Higgins goal was awsome. Perezhogin was cycling the puck towards their blueline and made a nifty little drop pass to Higgins, who was skating the opposite way, just in-between the outside hash-marks and faceoff circle. Higgins then went around the Dman with one hand on the stick to almost the goal line it seemed, and then cut quickly towards the front of the net and shot it passed the goalie. Great skill.
I was wondering what Jarvis has against Perezhogin. I noticed he took a penalty early in the second, which I didn't see (D@mn line-ups!) and then played about 3 shifts in the second and another 3 or 4 in the third. It seemed like Dwyer played triple what Perezhogin did. I'll have to check the ice time stats.
I may post a little more thoughts on certain players a little later.
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Post by montreal on Nov 27, 2003 1:32:49 GMT -5
I was at the game. Pretty dissapointing. Bulldogs were outshot 29-19. I thought Fichaud played really well, and the Higgins goal was awsome. Perezhogin was cycling the puck towards their blueline and made a nifty little drop pass to Higgins, who was skating the opposite way, just in-between the outside hash-marks and faceoff circle. Higgins then went around the Dman with one hand on the stick to almost the goal line it seemed, and then cut quickly towards the front of the net and shot it passed the goalie. Great skill. I was wondering what Jarvis has against Perezhogin. I noticed he took a penalty early in the second, which I didn't see (D@mn line-ups!) and then played about 3 shifts in the second and another 3 or 4 in the third. It seemed like Dwyer played triple what Perezhogin did. I'll have to check the ice time stats. I may post a little more thoughts on certain players a little later. I was at one game where Komo took a dumb penatly, and the other team scored on the Dogs. On his way out of the box, Komo said something to the ref (I was behind the players bench, so I couldn't hear) but he got a 10 min misconduct for it. After that, Jarvis benched Komo the rest of the period, and some of the 3rd, then later in the 3rd, Komo scores a huge goal to tie it in a game they shouldn't have been tied with. But I was surrounded by Amerks fans in NY, so it was sweet when Komo scored, cause there was this dumbass lady the row behind me talking Saperlipopette on Komo all game.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 27, 2003 17:00:29 GMT -5
I was at one game where Komo took a dumb penatly, and the other team scored on the Dogs. On his way out of the box, Komo said something to the ref (I was behind the players bench, so I couldn't hear) but he got a 10 min misconduct for it. After that, Jarvis benched Komo the rest of the period, and some of the 3rd, then later in the 3rd, Komo scores a huge goal to tie it in a game they shouldn't have been tied with. But I was surrounded by Amerks fans in NY, so it was sweet when Komo scored, cause there was this dumbass lady the row behind me talking nuts on Komo all game. And Bob Gaiiney says, "Komisarek should be playing in the NHL."? Those must be some real sweet drugs, man. Unless of course Bo thinks that Mike is better than Quintal/Rivet/Bouillon and thats why he's in a suit in the press box. I get it. Makes sense now.
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Post by madhabfan II on Nov 27, 2003 17:51:09 GMT -5
A few things I saw.
Higgins is a very solid player. He looks very strong for his listed height and weight. He picked off a couple passes in the neutral zone in the first and that shows he's alert and his head is on a swivel. Like I said before, he scored a beauty goal to tie it up.
Gratton played the same way he always plays. He's maxed out on his pontential. I understand that he may be a great guy and more than suitable to be captain and teach our young guys, but I just don't like the way he plays. He's very cheap and dirty and skates away when the other guy wants to go. He cross-checked some guy from behind right in front of the Toronto bench and was lucky he didn't get a penalty. But he did get called when he through a blatant knee in the second.
Hossa showed hustle but doesn't have that killer instinct when the puck is on his stick in the offensive zone. Its a shame because of his size and speed. Every time I see him with the puck it is always bouncing off his stick. Also his passes are rarely crisp and accurate, but people say he is more of a playmaker. I don't see it. Playmakers usually have their head up and watch the play develop, especially when they have the puck on their stick. Hossa doesn't do this enough. He tends to make rushed passes that don't connect.
Balej, as eveyone knows, has great speed and a lovely arsenal of shots but lacks hockey sense. He got his pocket picked twice while carrying the puck through the neutral zone. He needs make descisions quicker and drive the net more.
Plekanec didn't really stand out, but he is definitely a very smart player in all 3 zones. He goes into the corners and doesn't get tossed around like I thought he would have. However the NHL will be a much different story.
Hainsey had lots of nice rushes with the puck out of our zone. He also hit the post late in the second. I'm sure everyone knows how he plays. Even though I thought he could have played better there is not much left for him to prove in the AHL.
Perezhogin like I said hardly played. He played too little for me to make a good judgment of him. He's got skills but the are very raw.
Ferland played with lots of energy. He's a good skater and threw his weight around a little.
Milroy played very little as well. And didn't do much when he was on the ice. However he did look like he was a much better skater then the scouting reports had me believe.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 27, 2003 18:33:10 GMT -5
A few things I saw.Gratton played the same way he always plays. He's maxed out on his pontential. I understand that he may be a great guy and more than suitable to be captain and teach our young guys, but I just don't like the way he plays. He's very cheap and dirty and skates away when the other guy wants to go. He cross-checked some guy from behind right in front of the Toronto bench and was lucky he didn't get a penalty. But he did get called when he through a blatant knee in the second. And we would complain about having a guy like this on the Habs? Of course we would! What was I thinking? We'll continue to pretend that it's some other type of player (who we may or may not have, and who may or may not be ready to be called up) that deserves promotion. The solution is laughing in our faces, or at least should be.
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Post by montreal on Nov 27, 2003 18:59:07 GMT -5
And we would complain about having a guy like this on the Habs? Of course we would! What was I thinking? We'll continue to pretend that it's some other type of player (who we may or may not have, and who may or may not be ready to be called up) that deserves promotion. The solution is laughing in our faces, or at least should be. I've never been a fan of Gratton's but does produce and you can't argue with that. When I was in Hamilton, he didn't do much of anything over the 3 games, but that doesn't mean much, and I wasn't paying much attention to him. He takes some dumb penalties, and I'll never forget in Quebec's last year in the playoffs against Hamilton, he kept taking unneccessary penalities that turned out to be very costly.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 27, 2003 19:39:39 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of Gratton's but does produce and you can't argue with that. When I was in Hamilton, he didn't do much of anything over the 3 games, but that doesn't mean much, and I wasn't paying much attention to him. He takes some dumb penalties, and I'll never forget in Quebec's last year in the playoffs against Hamilton, he kept taking unneccessary penalities that turned out to be very costly. As you mentioned in another post; whether you like him or not doesn't matter. He's been captain of the team for two years running, and not based on his good looks. He boosted Ward to the NHL last season, and he'll help other Hab hopefuls get the same chance. He's got more game than 90% of the Habs roster at a fraction of the salary. What said the most about Ben's value to the team was when it was known that he'd be out for the last half of last season. Geoff Ward (coach after Julien was snatched by the Habs) had him behind the bench in civvies, to capitalize on his motivational value. How many present-day Habs have been asked to do the same? If the Habs let this guy drift away from their organization it will be someone else's gain.
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Post by Bob on Nov 27, 2003 20:30:42 GMT -5
As you mentioned in another post; whether you like him or not doesn't matter. He's been captain of the team for two years running, and not based on his good looks. He boosted Ward to the NHL last season, and he'll help other Hab hopefuls get the same chance. He's got more game than 90% of the Habs roster at a fraction of the salary. What said the most about Ben's value to the team was when it was known that he'd be out for the last half of last season. Geoff Ward (coach after Julien was snatched by the Habs) had him behind the bench in civvies, to capitalize on his motivational value. How many present-day Habs have been asked to do the same? If the Habs let this guy drift away from their organization it will be someone else's gain. You don't have to sell me on what Gratton could bring to the Habs. His tendency to take aggressive penalties can be bothersome but I would much sooner see that than watch Audette or Perreault lazily hooking a player rather than taking an extra stride and using the body. Yep, Gratton would certainly bring fire to the Canadiens... but it seems everyone wants to bring out their calculators and say that he is too small and too old to be a legitimate prospect. I suspect that more games are won or lost on the ice than on the stat sheet.
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Post by blaise on Nov 27, 2003 23:29:32 GMT -5
He wouldn't be suitable for checking duty. Whom would he replace at center? Ribeiro?
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 27, 2003 23:45:02 GMT -5
The energy and skill this "little plague" would bring, is worth moving Juneau to the wing. Or have Juneau centre with Ben on the wing. Doesn't much matter which, because this pisher will bring it every shift. And how many guys on the varsity squad can you say that about?
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