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Post by CrocRob on Dec 8, 2009 12:23:39 GMT -5
Eric Engels (he's not much of a rumour guy if that swings you one way or another) tweeted that he's "certain" the Habs and Edmonton have been talking about a multiple-player trade which doesn't involve Souray.
MA Godin also mentioned that Edmonton's GM was at the game last night.
Take what you will from that.
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Post by halihab on Dec 8, 2009 12:45:58 GMT -5
Hey Redscull, I have heard that it's Cogliano that the Habs are interested in. Maybe Sergei K for Cogliano ?
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 8, 2009 12:52:21 GMT -5
[Take this with a grain of salt...] What a fine bunch of young men on that team! With the exception of poor Khabibulin, Gilbert and Stortini [those last 2 need haircuts] In all seriousness, Lubomir Visnovsky used to play with Cammy. Penner and Hemsky are a point-per-game guys so far. There's another guy named Pouliot who's on the IR  Hmmm, the possibilities... |
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Post by CrocRob on Dec 8, 2009 13:12:37 GMT -5
Hemsky is done for the year btw. And likely untouchable.
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Post by blny on Dec 8, 2009 13:18:13 GMT -5
I've seen this rumour on hfboards. I don't put much in it, and have little interest in the names being thrown about.
Souray? Sure, be great to have his shot and presence back, but it ties up way too much money at the blue line - even if only for another year after this.
Cogliano - no thanks. Great skater, but shows nothing else to me. I've seen a bunch of Oilers games this year and he's routinely playing on the fourth line for good reason.
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 8, 2009 13:41:39 GMT -5
Hemsky is done for the year btw. And likely untouchable. My buddy Kev reminded me of this when he stopped me in the hall to ask if I'd heard about the Habs/Oil trade possibility. He said Souray, I said not. I said Ales and he reminded me that he was on the IR for the rest of the year. And I do remember reading that on the ticker... shoulder surgery... a girl can dream, no? |
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Post by blny on Dec 8, 2009 14:33:25 GMT -5
You don't want Souray because he immediately becomes the prettiest player on the team  As for dreaming, you do that regularly lol. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 8, 2009 15:17:37 GMT -5
Hemsky is done for the year btw. And likely untouchable. True on both counts. Interestingly they have won three in a row on the road with him out. Quinn has put a mucker on each line and it has woken up their soft, perimeter smaller forwards. Sound familiar? Strange trading partner considering the make up of the teams is somewhat similar, although the Habs have more overall talent. Both teams also sit at 30 pts in 30 games and a little outside looking in so may be kicking tires to see if there is a change of scenery move that works for both teams. Up until the start of this season I still thought Penner was salvageable and was worth a shot, even with that crazy contract (thanks Kevin Lowe). He just needed to get away from MacT. I guess he did that without having to leave town with the insert of Quinn and Renney and now he looks as untouchable as any on a team without any other big body scorers. JF Jacques started on the top line out of camp, but that experiment ended quickly enough. Gagner and Cogliano are not quite fitting in with Quinn's style these days and are both experiencing a bit of a slow year, so they likely could be had for the right price. Just not sure that addresses a pressing or future needs for the Habs though. A trade has to have value for both teams. |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 8, 2009 15:59:29 GMT -5
You don't want Souray because he immediately becomes the prettiest player on the team As for dreaming, you do that regularly lol. Souray can be as pretty as he wants to be... I'm not about "pretty" And hey, what else is there to do while at work but dream? |
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Post by HFTO on Dec 8, 2009 18:35:47 GMT -5
Sourays ship has sailed especially at the dollars and the Oilers would have to take considerable salary back ......now if its Gomez I'd consider anything to get out of that contract especially if it saved me 2+ million.
HFTO
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Post by blny on Dec 8, 2009 18:40:01 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I like Sheldon a lot despite his shortcomings. If we didn't have one of Spacek's or Hamrlik's contract, I'd consider it.
That's all moot though. Souray has a NTC that exists at least during the season. I doubt he'd wave it to come east. Part of signing in Edmonton was under the guise of being closer to his family in California (if only marginally).
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Post by Skilly on Dec 8, 2009 19:30:26 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I like Sheldon a lot despite his shortcomings. If we didn't have one of Spacek's or Hamrlik's contract, I'd consider it. That's all moot though. Souray has a NTC that exists at least during the season. I doubt he'd wave it to come east. Part of signing in Edmonton was under the guise of being closer to his family in California (if only marginally). Souray got back with Angelica ... and they have since broke up again. |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 8, 2009 20:26:18 GMT -5
Souray got back with Angelica ... and they have since broke up again. Is that the one that accused him of beating on her? |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 8, 2009 21:35:00 GMT -5
Souray got back with Angelica ... and they have since broke up again. Is that the one that accused him of beating on her? yep ... a buddy of mine is an Edmonton fan. Apparently, he got back with her after he arrived in Edmonton. And they broke up again about a month ago or so .... |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 9, 2009 0:32:04 GMT -5
There's another guy named Pouliot who's on the IR Marc Andre Pouliot, who will go down in Oiler infamy as they guy they traded down to instead of drafting Zach Parise. I'd go for Sam Gagner immediately, though I doubt he's available. O'Sullivan? Jordan Eberle would be nice (greedy aren't I?). Just dreaming, Doug, just dreaming. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 9, 2009 7:05:54 GMT -5
Cogliano - no thanks. Great skater, but shows nothing else to me. ...fits the Martin line of thinking doesn't it ? |
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Post by blny on Dec 9, 2009 8:35:14 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I like Sheldon a lot despite his shortcomings. If we didn't have one of Spacek's or Hamrlik's contract, I'd consider it. That's all moot though. Souray has a NTC that exists at least during the season. I doubt he'd wave it to come east. Part of signing in Edmonton was under the guise of being closer to his family in California (if only marginally). Souray got back with Angelica ... and they have since broke up again. That may well be, but he wanted a more westerly home base so that he could see his kids easier. I don't think he'd be too keen on a move out east unless it was to a sure fire contender. |
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Post by blny on Dec 9, 2009 8:35:56 GMT -5
Cogliano - no thanks. Great skater, but shows nothing else to me. ...fits the Martin line of thinking doesn't it ? I wouldn't say that at all. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 9, 2009 14:47:09 GMT -5
Marc Andre Pouliot, who will go down in Oiler infamy as they guy they traded down to instead of drafting Zach Parise. I'd go for Sam Gagner immediately, though I doubt he's available. O'Sullivan? Jordan Eberle would be nice (greedy aren't I?). Just dreaming, Doug, just dreaming. I saw Eberle live this fall at the Oilers-Canucks rookie game. Went there to have a peek at how he stands out against older competition, rather than just junior agers. I also went to catch Shirokov and Hodgson from the Nucks, but Cory was nursing that bad back that now does not seemed to have improved as he is out and will miss the WJC. Back to young Jordan, that kid can skate and has off the chart hockey sense. He really does create chances when he is on the ice. He is a treat to watch. If he was a little bigger his name would have been called a lot earlier on draft day. O'Sullivan is an interesting option. I really wanted the Habs to pick him with their first second round pick in 2003 instead of that Urquhart pick which ended up being a serious bust. I imagine they stayed away due to the off ice issues, as there were some question about how that would affect his future hockey focus. He has been in and out of Quinn's dog house and good books this year, as he tends to take the occassional shift (game/stretch of games) off, but the talent in there. He also doesn't play a very physical game and there have been a few occassions of him avoiding contact and not going after the puck in the dirty places. That ends you in Quinn's bad books pdq. Gagner is a neat option, as he is still in a bit of a funk and Quinn had him relegated to the 4th line out of camp (and JF Jacques on the first if you can imagine that). Again, wonderful hockey sense, but likely needs to play with good players to really maximize his potential. He is also more of a playmaker than shooter, so not sure if that fills a void or adds to a gap with the current edition of the Habs - I guess it depends on who would go the other way. Oiler fans are probably wishing the curling takes over Rexall every season as the Oil are probably playing their best hockey of the season right now and sans Hemsky. There team game has taken a considerable north-south look of late, and it seems to work for them. Hope they beat Tampa tonight to do a little favour for le bleu-blanc-rouge. |
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