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Post by BadCompany on Dec 2, 2003 12:34:34 GMT -5
Without authorization too, to come play for the Blue Jackets.
I wonder if this will mean more ice time for Kastitsyin? That would be good, but on the other hand CSKA is getting quite the reputation for not letting prospects come to North America. I forget, were they the ones involved in the Svitov/Chistov fiasco, that saw the two land in a military prison?
We might want to get him out of there as fast as possible, if that's the case...
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Post by Rimmer on Dec 2, 2003 12:52:02 GMT -5
I think that had something to do with the military service which the russians seem obligated to do. Kastitsyn is from Belarus so that shouldn't be a problem.
R.
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Post by Tattac on Dec 2, 2003 15:36:27 GMT -5
You know if he was Russian We might want to get him out of there as fast as possible, if that's the case... would be a bad idea. It is a HUGE scandal here. And the way the whole situation with Zherdev is put in NA media is so much different from what I read about it here in Russia. |
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Post by montreal on Dec 2, 2003 17:25:04 GMT -5
This could turn out to be bad for us. The contract between the International Federation and the NHL is up this summer, so expect transfer fees to go up and I would assume talks could get tricky. A tough summer ahead for the NHL in general.  |
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Post by BCHab on Dec 2, 2003 18:36:04 GMT -5
If Zherdev can get out and transfer fees are going up at the end of this year regardless, then I don't see why we shouldn't try to get Kastitsyn across to NA as well. At least, he could play junior hockey and get plenty of ice time while becoming familiar with the culture. I don't hear about him thriving in CSKA playing occasional fourth line duty. It just seems a shame. Perhaps he will reconsidered his decison to play in Russia this year when he sees what Zherdev has done?
Cheers,
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Post by montreal on Dec 2, 2003 19:09:03 GMT -5
If Zherdev can get out and transfer fees are going up at the end of this year regardless, then I don't see why we shouldn't try to get Kastitsyn across to NA as well. At least, he could play junior hockey and get plenty of ice time while becoming familiar with the culture. I don't hear about him thriving in CSKA playing occasional fourth line duty. It just seems a shame. Perhaps he will reconsidered his decison to play in Russia this year when he sees what Zherdev has done? Cheers, Can't happen. Zherdev signed a contract this summer, but CSKA refused to let him go. Zherdev should have been in the NHL since October. Kastsitsyn, since he didn't sign, can NOT play in the NHL until next season at the eariest. This is where the problem comes in. Kastsitsyn if signed, will be a part of the new IHFF/NHL deal I would assume (don't know the actual date the contract between the two sides is up) so it will be interesting to see what happens. Whatever team gets Ovechkin will be in the same boat. |
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Post by Tattac on Dec 3, 2003 5:06:40 GMT -5
Sorry BCHab, but don't you think it is just not right to talk a young guy into breaking laws of another country and intrnational agreements?
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Post by Rimmer on Dec 3, 2003 6:03:07 GMT -5
It is a HUGE scandal here. And the way the whole situation with Zherdev is put in NA media is so much different from what I read about it here in Russia. could you tell us how the russian media is looking at this whole situation? and do you know if the players are obligated to fulfill their military service before leaving to play abroad? Thanks, R. |
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Post by Tattac on Dec 3, 2003 6:13:51 GMT -5
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Post by Rimmer on Dec 3, 2003 7:11:55 GMT -5
IMO, the CBJs and/or Daly should also be penalized in this case (I assume Zherdev will be). how can Daly and NHL let him play if the IIHF clearly stated it wouldn't approve the transfer? talk about the arrogance and disrespect towards other leagues and countries and their rules/laws...
thanks again, Tattac.
R.
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Post by BCHab on Dec 3, 2003 12:36:57 GMT -5
Sorry BCHab, but don't you think it is just not right to talk a young guy into breaking laws of another country and intrnational agreements? Not at all. I am a strong proponent of international agreements. I am only saying that if Zherdev managed to leave, why can't Kastsitsyn? I now know that their respectives situatons are quite different. No offense meant. Cheers, |
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Post by Rimmer on Dec 3, 2003 12:37:10 GMT -5
I've been reading a little about this case and I must say that everybody have their own story. on USATODAY, I read that Zherdev doesn't think he's obliged to fulfill his military service: on CSKA site, I found an article in which Tikhonov says that they sent a "copy of Zherdev's military certificate" to the NHL while Bill Daly, the league's chief legal officer, claims "the league received no significant evidence to support the contention he's in the Russian army or was obligated to join." the certificate has apparently been issued on June, 11th. regardless of all that, I always thought that a player who begins the season in Europe cannot play in the NHL until next season. does anyone know for sure? if I understood correctly what the babel fish was trying to say, Columbus feel that the exemption to that rule is if a player cannot come to NA because of his military obligations. R. |
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