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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 9, 2010 19:35:00 GMT -5
Okay,
Cinci's kicker blew a good chance to get it to 7...I hate the Jets, as I beleive there are better teams that deserved to get in but because of the last 2 weeks where the Colts and Bengals rest there starters, they make it in. Houston or even Pittsburgh would of been better.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 10, 2010 1:31:54 GMT -5
Okay, Cinci's kicker blew a good chance to get it to 7...I hate the Jets, as I beleive there are better teams that deserved to get in but because of the last 2 weeks where the Colts and Bengals rest there starters, they make it in. Houston or even Pittsburgh would of been better. Why did the 9-7 Jets play the 10-6 Bengals in the wild card? Why didn't they play 9-7 Baltimore? And in the NFC.....two 11-5 teams (Dallas and Philly) have to duke it out while a 10-6 team (Arizona) gets a pass. I know Arizona won their division.....but so did Cincinnati. Why do the 9-7 Ravens, who finished second in their division, get a pass? I'm sure it all makes sense....but I don't get this playoff structure. |
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Post by CrocRob on Jan 10, 2010 3:10:49 GMT -5
It's the same as the NHL playoffs. Division seeds at the top, the rest below slotted by record. It's just that there are 4 divisions in each conference, and only 2 other playoff teams.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 10, 2010 21:49:33 GMT -5
Apologies, TD, I didn't see your thread when I went ahead and made one. I locked it so we can pick up the discussion here.
I feel badly for Aaron Rodgers. He was basically handed the game on a silver plate. As franko pointed out;
* shanked field goal attempt at the end,
* winning the toss on OT.
Honestly, he had a great second-half, but Rodgers started the game with an interception and ended it on a fumble. To fair to him, though, I haven't seen the Packer defence picked apart like that in quite a while. That was probably the most frustrating part of the entire game for me. I haven't seen any post-game inteviews as yet. I won't be going out of my way to watch them either. Hats off to the Cardinals.
Red, you mentioned the Ravens/Patriots game; I don't think I've seen this edition of the Patriots taken out as easily as they were. I honestly don't know if Wes Welker would have made the difference or not. But, the Ravens were much better prepared for this one. I saw only a bit of the post-game interview with Brady, but he didn't look all that upset.
Cheers.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 10, 2010 22:17:52 GMT -5
The Packers never shored up their left side of the O-line. Rodgers took way too much punishment this year because of it.
The Ravens are always built on defenese...They play hard, hit hard and play borderline. They are smash mouth football and the Pats are been rebilding - accumulating draft picks the last 2 years but still being good enough to compete.
The Eagles are over-rated, and Dallas just handed it to them but I also think Dallas is over rated. The NFC is built where one team can beat another but lose to someone else. Ex. Dallas, Giants and Eagles. Giants beat Dallas, Dallas beats Eagles, Eagles beat Giants...
Before this weekend anyone in the NFC could of won but in the AFC it will come down to the Colts, Ravens or Chargers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 17, 2010 13:51:38 GMT -5
New Orleans looked zoned in yesterday. Wonder what got into Reggie Bush all of a sudden? 109 yards on three punt returns.
I'm hoping the Saints can keep it up actually.
Cheers.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 17, 2010 16:00:58 GMT -5
And now my Cowboys are done ... the old Tony Romo showed up.  I think he did too much star gazing at his old boyhood hero and tried too much. |
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Post by CrocRob on Jan 17, 2010 16:40:12 GMT -5
Worst NFL playoffs in years. Not a single good game thus far if you ask me. Garbage defense or garbage QB play have highlighted every game so far. Now I'm relying on the Jets to provide the first game of intrigue to me. Great.  . |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 17, 2010 19:58:08 GMT -5
Can Jets hold off the Colts offense?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 18, 2010 8:07:21 GMT -5
That's the thing, TD. Would you bet against Payton Manning? For that matter would you bet against Brett Farve?
The Minnesota D was ready for this one. They had a few breaks (two missed FGs), but for the most part they gave their offence a chance to win the game. Sidney Rice ran his patterns extremely well.
What did it for me was watching the reaction of the Dallas bench when they missed that second FG. That would have made it an 8-point game but honestly, I don't know how much good that would have done at that point.
Didn't watch the Jets/Chargers. It was a close one, but was it a tough football game?
Cheers.
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Post by franko on Jan 18, 2010 8:19:39 GMT -5
Di,s I knew that the Jets would win when half-time came [and yes, I half-watched the game -- I pay attention to the NFL during playoffs]. SD had more than one chance to put the game away during the first half -- I mean, the Jets were 3-and-out 4? 5? 6? times in a row, could genrerate no offense. THe Chargers had the ball and owned the Jets except when it counted.
More power to the Jets, but their run ends here.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 18, 2010 9:06:37 GMT -5
Di,s I knew that the Jets would win when half-time came [and yes, I half-watched the game -- I pay attention to the NFL during playoffs]. SD had more than one chance to put the game away during the first half -- I mean, the Jets were 3-and-out 4? 5? 6? times in a row, could genrerate no offense. THe Chargers had the ball and owned the Jets except when it counted. More power to the Jets, but their run ends here. I didn't see the game, Franko, other than when I was surfing (I did a lot of that during the Habs/Rangers game). In your opinion, was it a case of the NY D coming up big in the Red Zone, or a case of SD self-destructing? It really sounds like the Jets' D was tough. Cheers. |
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Post by Polarice on Jan 18, 2010 14:00:59 GMT -5
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Post by CrocRob on Jan 18, 2010 20:23:11 GMT -5
The Jets didn't really deserve to win the game, but in the end they screwed up less than San Diego did. This season of beyond awful place kicking continued with Kaeding missing two very makable field goals, and Rivers collapsing when his team needed a play made.
But all in all, that was by far the best game of the postseason. For the most part, two teams slugging it in the trenches and highlighted by good defense on both sides of the ball, combined with a smattering of brilliant offensive performances.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jan 18, 2010 22:44:43 GMT -5
Fan since Bud Wilkinson coached. Loved the Purple People Eaters and Carl's Coke ad. I like the young kid they have at QB, Favre. I like the fact that Gainey isn't their GM. Go Vikes. |
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Post by Polarice on Jan 19, 2010 6:46:28 GMT -5
Fan since Bud Wilkinson coached. Loved the Purple People Eaters and Carl's Coke ad. I like the young kid they have at QB, Favre. I like the fact that Gainey isn't their GM. Go Vikes. Been a Vikes fan ever since Warren Moon dressed for them....was a Oiler fan before that and an Eskimo fan in the CFL....see the pattern!!  But when Moon left the NFL I went back to the Vikes!! |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 24, 2010 20:20:49 GMT -5
Was good seeing the Jets come out playing good, strong football. But, I got the impression early on that the Colts weren't going away anytime soon. They kept the game close then reeled in the Jets.
Good first-half in the Vikings/Saints game. The Saints were getting to Farve early and often, legally and not so legally. I think they'll have to keep doing much of the same in the second-half. Can't give Farve any time to set it up.
Cheers.
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Post by franko on Jan 24, 2010 22:20:04 GMT -5
Bogus pass interference call in OT bites Minny in the butt and gives NO the win; Farve blows it though when he had the win in the bag with only seconds left in the game
[ya, I follow playoffs]
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 24, 2010 22:28:02 GMT -5
Bogus pass interference call in OT bites Minny in the butt and gives NO the win; Farve blows it though when he had the win in the bag with only seconds left in the game [ya, I follow playoffs] Exactly how I saw it. a. Favre had only to run the ball a few more yards in the open field...and there would've been at least a decent shot at a field goal to win it. b. That PI call in OT on Leber was bogus. The ball was overthrown/uncatchable...and the receiver had turned himself around. Oh well....I don't have a favourite team...and certainly nothing at stake. Too bad they can't review PI calls in OT. I'm not sure Meachem had that one catch under control before it hit the ground. I guess they ruled he had it trapped against his thigh. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 24, 2010 22:32:52 GMT -5
I wanted to Saints to win, yes, but this was more about Minnesota losing it. Turnovers all game long.
I felt bad for Farve. The guy took a pounding all game but he found a way to come back each time. And to be honest it wouldn't have bothered me at all to see him take the Vikings to the Super Bowl.
Adrian Peterson reminds me of a bigger version of Aman Green. He hits the holes like dynamite, but you just don't know if he's going to hang onto the ball.
I think the Colts would have had a harder time against the Vikings, but they've drawn the Saints. Good luck to New Orleans, though. I think they're going to have to get to Manning the same way they got to Farve, but they're also going to have to play a lot better on D overall. Manning will carve them up if they don't get to him.
Cheers.
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Post by CrocRob on Jan 24, 2010 23:24:56 GMT -5
InterEstingly the Jets played in the three best games these playoffs. So far anyway.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 24, 2010 23:40:29 GMT -5
I think the Jets just couldn't get the momentum back, Red. The Colts did a good job shutting them down in the second-half.
Guys, I really do feel badly for Farve. His last pass as a Packer was an interception. I don't know if he'll be back next year or not (did he say one way or the other? I think he has a two-year deal doesn't he? Not so sure) but if he doesn't his last pass as a Viking will be an interception as well.
Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Jan 25, 2010 7:17:32 GMT -5
Bogus pass interference call in OT bites Minny in the butt and gives NO the win; Farve blows it though when he had the win in the bag with only seconds left in the game [ya, I follow playoffs] RUN THE BALL!!! RUN THE BALL!!! |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 25, 2010 8:08:21 GMT -5
Bogus pass interference call in OT bites Minny in the butt and gives NO the win; Farve blows it though when he had the win in the bag with only seconds left in the game [ya, I follow playoffs] Exactly how I saw it. a. Favre had only to run the ball a few more yards in the open field...and there would've been at least a decent shot at a field goal to win it. b. That PI call in OT on Leber was bogus. The ball was overthrown/uncatchable...and the receiver had turned himself around. Oh well....I don't have a favourite team...and certainly nothing at stake. Too bad they can't review PI calls in OT. I'm not sure Meachem had that one catch under control before it hit the ground. I guess they ruled he had it trapped against his thigh. I could care less about the pass interference call, guys. I thought there were several bad calls throughout the game. As for the call itself, well, ok, it did decide the game; however, I thought Green Bay's season also ended the wrong way as well. It's odd that no one mentioned anything about the missed helmet-on-helmet, or the face mask calls that basically handed the Cardinals the game ended the Packer season. Cheers. |
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Post by CrocRob on Jan 25, 2010 11:53:42 GMT -5
The entire NFC championship was poorly played, and poorly officiated. At a minimum, the "bogus PI" call was illegal contact, as Leber had his hands all over Thomas well beyond the 5 yards allowed.
Both of those missed calls wouldn't have mattered had Vikings and Packers just not turned the ball over. If you're relying on the refs to get first downs, you're not a very good football team.
And none of the calls "decided" the game. Rodgers fumbled the ball legitimately. That decided the game. At some point, your defense has to make a play. Neither the Vikings nor Packers could. That's why they lost, not because of a bad call here or there.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 25, 2010 12:08:36 GMT -5
And none of the calls "decided" the game. Rodgers fumbled the ball legitimately. That decided the game. At some point, your defense has to make a play. Neither the Vikings nor Packers could. That's why they lost, not because of a bad call here or there. I respect your opinion, Red, but the Packers were boned out of the game just on the helmet-to-helmet non-call. That was a clear foul that wasn't called ... no ands, ifs or buts. I'm not saying they would have marched down the field and scored; we'll never know that. However, it would have kept the drive going. That face mask call was after the fumble I believe and I'm really not sure what the ruling on the field would have been. I think, not sure though, that the Cardinals would have retained possession but might have started out a few yards back from where the foul was committed. Again, I'm really not sure, Red. You're right, though; Rodgers fumbled the ball. But, why was that helmet-on-helmet not called? Why was the face mask not called? As for the Jets, well they didn't make many mistakes at all. In the end I thought they just couldn't stop the Colts. Cheers. |
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Post by CrocRob on Jan 25, 2010 12:43:23 GMT -5
I'm not saying it wasn't a foul. It was. It wasn't called. I'm just saying that it doesn't matter. It didn't cause the turnover, and it didn't cause the game to end.
The face mask call was missed because none of the refs saw it. There's no official whose job it is to stare at the QB after the ball has been fumbled. It's just the way the officiating scheme is set up. At best, it would have been a penalty after the turnover, and Arizona would have had to play first and 10 at the 25 or 30.
I just think Arizona was the better of the two terrible teams that were on the field that game. And they were appropriately knocked out in the next round rather convincingly.
Truthfully, I don't even know how the Packers made the playoffs. I never saw them rise to the occasion, except perhaps against Baltimore. But maybe that's indicative of how weak the NFC field was this year after the top 2 teams.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 25, 2010 13:42:11 GMT -5
I'm not saying it wasn't a foul. It was. It wasn't called. I'm just saying that it doesn't matter. It didn't cause the turnover, and it didn't cause the game to end. The face mask call was missed because none of the refs saw it. There's no official whose job it is to stare at the QB after the ball has been fumbled. It's just the way the officiating scheme is set up. At best, it would have been a penalty after the turnover, and Arizona would have had to play first and 10 at the 25 or 30. I just think Arizona was the better of the two terrible teams that were on the field that game. And they were appropriately knocked out in the next round rather convincingly. Truthfully, I don't even know how the Packers made the playoffs. I never saw them rise to the occasion, except perhaps against Baltimore. But maybe that's indicative of how weak the NFC field was this year after the top 2 teams. Well, I have agree there Red. The NFC wasn't all that good to watch this year, more so when my favourite team is the Packers. I think they'll be better next year, though. They'll have to protect Rodgers a lot better and I'm looking forward to seeing whether or not he can pass for over 4,000 for a third-straight year. Regarding the facemask; I thought it was an easy call to miss probably because the officials were doing what everyone else was doing; following the fumble. However, I found an opinion here: answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100111154102AAlUugHIt lays out the rulings for facemask infractions and the specific scenario. Pretty good explanation. As for the Super Bowl, I'd like to see New Orleans get it, but they'll have to get to Manning the way they did to Farve. The Colts simply have too many weapons, though. Hopefully it's a good game. Cheers. |
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Post by jkr on Jan 25, 2010 17:20:03 GMT -5
What about the Vikings getting caleld for 12 men in the huddle . It pushed them back 5 yards & was probably the reason for Favre throwing that pass instead of calling a ground play..
Pretty dumb penalty, especially at that stage of the game.
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Post by franko on Jan 25, 2010 17:46:11 GMT -5
maybe he thought he was in the CFL?
or maybe didn't watch the Grey Cup game for pointers?
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