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Post by ED on Jan 22, 2004 8:24:18 GMT -5
Locke gets OHL player of the week, for I believe the 2nd time this year and is now the OHL's scoring leader by 1 point and 1 game in hand of the player in 2nd, Perry. Also former habs pick Himelfarb is also ripping up the OHL around top 5 in OHL scoring, but he's not even Habs property anymore, I beleive.
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Post by FormerLurker on Jan 22, 2004 9:08:11 GMT -5
Also former habs pick Himelfarb is also ripping up the OHL around top 5 in OHL scoring, but he's not even Habs property anymore, I beleive. Himelfarb's an overager this season. In fact, with a birthday of 1/1/83, he's the oldest player in the OHL. If he had been born a day earlier (i.e. in 1982), he would have been an overager last season and ineligible this season. Jozef Balej's only about ten months older than Himelfarb, and he's ripping up the AHL in his second professional season. All this to say that I don't think we'll regret not signing Himelfarb.
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Post by blny on Jan 22, 2004 10:29:19 GMT -5
Himelfarb's an overager this season. In fact, with a birthday of 1/1/83, he's the oldest player in the OHL. If he had been born a day earlier (i.e. in 1982), he would have been an overager last season and ineligible this season. Jozef Balej's only about ten months older than Himelfarb, and he's ripping up the AHL in his second professional season. All this to say that I don't think we'll regret not signing Himelfarb. Is he a bad seed? I know the name, but not the reputation that goes with it. Care to expound?
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Post by FormerLurker on Jan 22, 2004 13:26:44 GMT -5
Is he a bad seed? I know the name, but not the reputation that goes with it. Care to expound? He's not a bad seed, he's just unlikely to make it to the bigs. He's about the same size as Corey Locke with a fraction of the talent.
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Post by blny on Jan 22, 2004 14:11:07 GMT -5
He's not a bad seed, he's just unlikely to make it to the bigs. He's about the same size as Corey Locke with a fraction of the talent. Yeah, I did a little digging myself. Found out he's 5'8-9" and about 160 lbs. He's a point a gamer in the OHL which doesn't exactly endear him to me considering his size. Had he some beef to go along with it, there might have been a chance. Hockey Futures also mentioned that his speed was "ok".
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 22, 2004 14:29:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I did a little digging myself. Found out he's 5'8-9" and about 160 lbs. He's a point a gamer in the OHL which doesn't exactly endear him to me considering his size. Had he some beef to go along with it, there might have been a chance. Hockey Futures also mentioned that his speed was "ok". I watched him play in the rookie tourney in Ottawa (he had a tryout with them last fall) against the Hab prospects, and he is a gifted and exciting player. However, his size is definitely an issue. This was likely the factor that led the Habs to not offer him a contract, given the number of smaller centremen already in the system. That and through the draft the Habs essentially replaced him with Corey Locke, who clearly has more offensive skills based on his production over the past two seasons.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jan 22, 2004 14:58:49 GMT -5
Corey Locke probably has about as much upside as Brian Gionta in NJ, which would be great, but Gionta combines terrific skating ability and shifty moves with a feistiness and daring that far exceeds his 5-7, 175 lb frame. I saw Gionta play a lot at Boston College and I'm not surprised he has carved out a little niche for himself in NJ.
I think the bad news for a guy like Locke is that unless he can dramatically improve his skating ability and play with more of an edge to compensate for his size, then he's at best a long shot to make it in the NHL.
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Post by blaise on Jan 22, 2004 16:43:58 GMT -5
Corey Locke probably has about as much upside as Brian Gionta in NJ, which would be great, but Gionta combines terrific skating ability and shifty moves with a feistiness and daring that far exceeds his 5-7, 175 lb frame. I saw Gionta play a lot at Boston College and I'm not surprised he has carved out a little niche for himself in NJ. I think the bad news for a guy like Locke is that unless he can dramatically improve his skating ability and play with more of an edge to compensate for his size, then he's at best a long shot to make it in the NHL. I would agree with you. Gionta is a gifted skater. He outplayed a much better known small player, Sergei Samsonov, in last year's playoffs. I doubt whether Corey Locke could ever do that.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jan 22, 2004 16:50:32 GMT -5
IMO Locke was a 4th round flyer. So who knows?
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Post by StickHandler on Jan 22, 2004 18:52:41 GMT -5
IMO Locke was a 4th round flyer. So who knows? Agreed. Ribeiro had the skill but neither the speed nor the size when he was drafted.
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Post by oldhabsfan on Jan 22, 2004 22:29:40 GMT -5
Is he a bad seed? I know the name, but not the reputation that goes with it. Care to expound? The Kingston Frontenacs website lists Himelfarb as 166 pounds, just after his 21st birthday. I presume that weight is fairly recent. He doesn't seem to have gained much since he was drafted. Players sometimes gain quite a bit after being drafted at 18, but few add much bone and muscle after 21.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 22, 2004 23:43:04 GMT -5
Agreed. Ribeiro had the skill but neither the speed nor the size when he was drafted. Unfortunately, not much has changed, or where would he be?
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