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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 4, 2010 10:29:00 GMT -5
Son of a gun, eh? ============================================================ Veiled women mocked airport security
By BRIAN LILLEY, Parliamentary Bureau OTTAWA - A former U.S. special forces soldier, trained to speak Arabic, said he's seen veiled Muslim women laughing at and deriding airport security personnel after refusing to lift their veils. The soldier was one of several who have shared their stories via e-mail or by telephone of two-tier treatment at Canadian airports. QMI Agency has reported that while Transport Canada rules required that each person must be checked immediately before boarding, airport employees say it often does not happen. Transport Minister John Baird has ordered a review of airport procedures and, on Tuesday, said anyone, veiled or otherwise, who puts up a fuss at airport security and refuses identity checks, ought to be arrested. "If people are intimidating and threatening airport workers doing security checks, we won't tolerate that in Canada," Baird said. "We're seeking 100% compliance not 99%." The special forces soldier said in his e-mail he was returning to Edmonton from Toronto last Christmas when he spotted a group of three men and four women. When the women were asked to enter a private room and remove their veils, the reader tells QMI the scene erupted. “They harangued this poor security guard for five minutes." He alleges they threatened to file lawsuits. “Finally this poor guard told them to get going.” After that the reader says the passengers began speaking in their native tongue mocking “simpleton Canadians” for letting them have their own way. The former soldier says he then confronted the travellers. “In their own language I calmly told them not all Canadians were imbeciles and they should really follow the laws of the land where they are. They were quiet as long as we were within earshot.” cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2010/08/03/14912481.html |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2010 13:06:38 GMT -5
Everyone's asked to remove loose items for airport security. If they want to call it racial profiling, then they're just ignorant.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 4, 2010 16:01:34 GMT -5
Not that every case would be the same, but it's the mocking afterwards that gets me. If it was simply a religious/cultural reason for their refusal to lift their veils, that's one thing.
And with these types, there wouldn't be mocking afterwards only....that's a total mindset in such individuals.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 4, 2010 16:10:04 GMT -5
I thought about this problem for slightly over 1 second and way under 2 seconds and came up with a simple solution. All Harper has to do is introduce a NATIONAL law that due to security concerns in public places, it's illegal to hide their face in a bus depot, railroad station or airport. No exceptions. Done. Simple. Effiective. So let's see how many years (decades?) and how much bs ink will flow before politicians discover this amazing idea.  Want to argue that it's "religious freedom". Sure, I'm all for religious freedom so as soon as someone can show me where in the Koran it says anything about covering woman in cloth sacks burka and niqab, Ill change my opinion. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 4, 2010 18:43:34 GMT -5
I thought about this problem for slightly over 1 second and way under 2 seconds and came up with a simple solution. All Harper has to do is introduce a NATIONAL law that due to security concerns in public places, it's illegal to hide their face in a bus depot, railroad station or airport. No exceptions. Done. Simple. Effiective. So let's see how many years (decades?) and how much bs ink will flow before politicians discover this amazing idea. Want to argue that it's "religious freedom". Sure, I'm all for religious freedom so as soon as someone can show me where in the Koran it says anything about covering woman in cloth sacks burka and niqab, Ill change my opinion. Here's how some other countries are handling it. Some of those countries listed in the link: Belgium Denmark France Germany Italy Netherlands Norway United Kingdom LinkI talk to a former UN buddy who lives in Denmark on a weekly basis. It's a huge issue where he lives. Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 4, 2010 19:25:18 GMT -5
Here's how some other countries are handling it. Some of those countries listed in the link: Belgium Denmark France Germany Italy Netherlands Norway United Kingdom LinkI talk to a former UN buddy who lives in Denmark on a weekly basis. It's a huge issue where he lives. Cheers. Gee, it looks like the "progressive" countries are already taking action as a nation. Whenever I am in a public place and a woman is wearing the face cloth, she is invariably the center of attention. For something that is supposed to be "modest", it's far from it. Second, I don't care how many woman proclaim it's their "right" to wear it, it's still a symbol of oppression and ownership. In fact, when I hear the excuses from woman, I can't help but to think that indoctrination has wobbled that mind. Last but not least, I can't wee why beauty has to be masked. After all, my wife NEVER covers me up. |
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Post by Skilly on Aug 4, 2010 19:51:40 GMT -5
I thought about this problem for slightly over 1 second and way under 2 seconds and came up with a simple solution. All Harper has to do is introduce a NATIONAL law that due to security concerns in public places, it's illegal to hide their face in a bus depot, railroad station or airport. No exceptions. Done. Simple. Effiective. So let's see how many years (decades?) and how much bs ink will flow before politicians discover this amazing idea. Want to argue that it's "religious freedom". Sure, I'm all for religious freedom so as soon as someone can show me where in the Koran it says anything about covering woman in cloth sacks burka and niqab, Ill change my opinion. While we are at it, let's toss in school class rooms too .... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 5, 2010 8:43:29 GMT -5
Not that every case would be the same, but it's the mocking afterwards that gets me. If it was simply a religious/cultural reason for their refusal to lift their veils, that's one thing. And with these types, there wouldn't be mocking afterwards only....that's a total mindset in such individuals. Something like this makes me ask, just how much of this is going on? Is this an isolated incident or is it known by certain people that they can get away with behaviour like this? Moreover, how was this perceived by other people watching it? We already know what the soldier thinks, but what about anyone else observing it? According to the article they might have seen a preferential treatment given to people who did nothing more than berate a government official to the point where he simply caved due to intimidation. IMO, I think airport security is now in a position as well. Again, how often does stuff like this actually occur and are their guards properly prepared to deal with something like this when it happens again? I don't know if I agree with Transport Minister John Baird, though. I think arresting someone depends on the severity of the situation. IMO, if anyone wants to put up a fuss and/or refuses to comply with airport security or refuses identity checks, they should first be removed from the line, not necessarily arrested. If the people in question still haven't cooled off by that point, arrest could be an option if the scenario escalates to another level. Still, if the soldier's story can be believed then this is definitely a two-tier system that needs to be sorted out, and fast! We don't need to conduct a study to do this. That would take more time and more taxpayer money. Maybe we could just look at examples of other nations and even a province in our own country; Quebec. Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 5, 2010 8:48:56 GMT -5
Here's how some other countries are handling it. Some of those countries listed in the link: Belgium Denmark France Germany Italy Netherlands Norway United Kingdom LinkI talk to a former UN buddy who lives in Denmark on a weekly basis. It's a huge issue where he lives. Cheers. Gee, it looks like the "progressive" countries are already taking action as a nation. Wouldn't be the first time I heard of others laughing at Canadians and their policies. Actually, there's no law against the wearing of war thongs ... however ...  Cheers. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Sept 14, 2010 18:10:54 GMT -5
Gee, it looks like the "progressive" countries are already taking action as a nation. Wouldn't be the first time I heard of others laughing at Canadians and their policies. Actually, there's no law against the wearing of war thongs ... however ... Cheers. Damn! There goes my halloween plan to "trick or treat" as a masked terrorist at the airport.  Where is my freedom of expression?  |
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