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Post by CentreHice on Aug 19, 2010 19:40:03 GMT -5
ESPNHe's not backing down....speaking to the world on Twitter. Still can't get my head around that. Talk about a PR tool. (Twiiter, I mean....well, maybe Clemens, too!)
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 19, 2010 22:46:04 GMT -5
You can deny what you did all you want but if you lie to the Grand Jury and they can prove it, they'll bury you. Having said that, it's hard for me to feel sorry for Clemens.
Saw clips of A-Rod first denying he used steroids, then later admitting to it. I don't think he was summoned to the Grand Jury, but it seems the American sports public is very unforgiving. Admit to it and it just seems to go away. I mean, they've seemed to have forgiven A-Rod and Mark Magwire already.
Maybe Clemens missed his chance.
Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Aug 20, 2010 9:23:50 GMT -5
IMO its a he said, she said kind of case....hard to prove and a waste of tax payers money!
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 20, 2010 19:07:49 GMT -5
MoreApparently, Pettitte is the key....as he corroborated McNamee's testimony. Of course, Clemens says that Pettitte "misremembers" their conversation. Gut talking here. I think Clemems (and Lance Armstrong for that matter) are arrogant cheats. World class athletes, no question. But I think they took the enhancement route to either achieve, maintain, or prolong their prowess. Not that they're the only two in that respect, by any means.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 20, 2010 20:36:58 GMT -5
Iran is feuling a nuclear plant and....Roger getting slapped for cheating in playing a kids game is the talk of the town.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 20, 2010 21:28:31 GMT -5
Iran is feuling a nuclear plant and....Roger getting slapped for cheating in playing a kids game is the talk of the town. One could say that about many, many threads on this board. I dare say following the Habs is trivial in comparison to what really matters in this world, ain't it? |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 20, 2010 22:05:02 GMT -5
Iran is feuling a nuclear plant and....Roger getting slapped for cheating in playing a kids game is the talk of the town. One could say that about many, many threads on this board. I dare say following the Habs is trivial in comparison to what really matters in this world, ain't it? My comments was NOT directed at this thread, but rather, seeing it on the news as a "big story". Call me old and senile, but I have reacehed a point where I despise the news meda for filling our heads with circus acts. Mehh....I'm going back to my old medication. |
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 21, 2010 8:27:13 GMT -5
One could say that about many, many threads on this board. I dare say following the Habs is trivial in comparison to what really matters in this world, ain't it? My comments was NOT directed at this thread, but rather, seeing it on the news as a "big story". Call me old and senile, but I have reacehed a point where I despise the news meda for filling our heads with circus acts. Mehh....I'm going back to my old medication. I'm with you on that front. In the mainstream media--re the most important issues--there's misinformation, disinformation, or no information at all....you'd almost think it was done on purpose.  And keep the masses distracted with trivia, fluff, gossip, hearsay. And it works. |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 21, 2010 20:49:10 GMT -5
My comments was NOT directed at this thread, but rather, seeing it on the news as a "big story". Call me old and senile, but I have reacehed a point where I despise the news meda for filling our heads with circus acts. Mehh....I'm going back to my old medication. I'm with you on that front. Then you must be taking the same medication! I wonder where all this bombardment will lead us? I know politics are getting more and more polarized, some long dormant issues are cropping up again, radical voicesare gatting more air time. All in the name of selling 24/7 air time. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 22, 2010 18:23:13 GMT -5
I'll give Clemens credit, though. He's standing up and taking it head-on. Almost like Brian Mulroney did when he ...
... never mind.
Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 24, 2010 9:26:01 GMT -5
I'll give Clemens credit, though. He's standing up and taking it head-on. Almost like Brian Mulroney did when he ... ... never mind. Cheers. ;D Just waiting for Clemens to sue his country and not have to give it back after finding out he was indeed lying. Stay tuned..... |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 24, 2010 11:04:17 GMT -5
I'll give Clemens credit, though. He's standing up and taking it head-on. Almost like Brian Mulroney did when he ... ... never mind. Cheers. ;D Just waiting for Clemens to sue his country and not have to give it back after finding out he was indeed lying. Stay tuned..... Yes, yes ... instructions written on table napkins .... steroids money being passed in clear bottles envelopes in a locker room over a table ;D |
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Post by habernac on Aug 26, 2010 14:26:49 GMT -5
Even Pete Rose is offering advice on it. "I wish I had come clean the day they had called me into the [commissioner's] office in 1989 -- I do," Rose says. "Because I would've saved myself a lot of grief, a lot of everything. Money, you name it. The thing that was so hard for me is I had a lot of respect for the game, and I was respected for that while I was in the game. And I miss that, you know? But I messed up, I messed up!" sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=howard/100826 |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 26, 2010 15:00:08 GMT -5
Even Pete Rose is offering advice on it. "I wish I had come clean the day they had called me into the [commissioner's] office in 1989 -- I do," Rose says. "Because I would've saved myself a lot of grief, a lot of everything. Money, you name it. The thing that was so hard for me is I had a lot of respect for the game, and I was respected for that while I was in the game. And I miss that, you know? But I messed up, I messed up!" sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=howard/100826Sounds like Rose was humbled by the whole process. In this case regret is a good thing. At least he's sorry for what he did. Cheers. |
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Post by habernac on Aug 26, 2010 17:04:55 GMT -5
too little, too late for Pete.
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Post by Skilly on Aug 26, 2010 21:48:57 GMT -5
too little, too late for Pete. Agree. IMO, Pete Rose's humility has only been a recent development, in the last 5 years. Why is that? Oh, could it be his 15 year period of eligibility was about to run out, and he was hoping that he could get in by admitting the truth? He was eligible for Veteran's Committee consideration in 2007, however, in 2008 the Veteran's Commitee decided to bar players and managers that were on the ineligible list from consideration. He now realizes that his name, his place in history that he wanted so bad, is destroyed in the game and all because he went years lying to everyone ..... and IMO, he continues to lie, because the only reason for this harsh a treatment is because there is evidence that he bet against the Reds. The agreement was he accept the ban, and MLB would not release any formal finding regarding his gambling allegations.... hmmm? |
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