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Post by franko on Jan 5, 2011 22:23:02 GMT -5
I was talking to my son and actually said "the Habs and their third period sit-backs" before I realized the slip of the tongue.
absolutely brutal period by the Canadians . . . and good on the Russians for pouring it on.
Russians also the only team to lose 2 games yet win the tourney.
now readying for the excuses . . . too many of the eligible Canadians playing in the NHL.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 5, 2011 22:23:52 GMT -5
Russians lose their first two games, and end up having to come back in every playoff game. A team full of heart and never-say-die. Kudos.
A tough one for the lads in red...and all the sad and quiet living rooms across the nation.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 5, 2011 22:44:53 GMT -5
I was surprised how Canada came out in the third. I thought they'd be pressing for the win. The Russians were relentless.
World-class effort by both teams.
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 5, 2011 23:57:55 GMT -5
What I saw, guys, was less of an increase in tempo by the Russians, but a Canadian team that seemed to have run out of gas. They had no energy left in the third, which caused them to play a mentally and physically slow game. They missed assignments (they actually started running around out of position in the 2nd period), and they didn't finish checks. Too often there was one Russian player with 3 Canadians around him, probably because they weren't sure one guy could win a one on one battle.
I suspect the game against the US was the culprit. They worked so hard and were so up for that game that they didn't have enough left for the final. I think if this team plays the Russians seven times, with lots of rest in between, they'll win 7 games. They were the better team in the first and second but petered out in the 3rd. Still a solid team, when they're not fatigued.
We also don't know about injuries. There were a couple of players not playing without the usual abandon, and I suspect they were hurting.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 6, 2011 0:32:49 GMT -5
True, seventeen, but how about a save from your goalie in that situation? Every good chance, including a softie, went in.
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Post by MC Habber on Jan 6, 2011 1:27:53 GMT -5
If I were coaching Team Canada, I think what I'd be most disappointed in is not the loss, not the blown lead, not the fact that they gave up 5 unanswered goals, but the fact that as soon as Russia got a one goal lead, the Canadians couldn't handle the pressure at all. After that 4-3 goal they were totally unable to handle the puck or even get control of it in most cases. It was like a hot potato... red hot. It was among the saddest 5 minute stretches of hockey I've ever seen.
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Post by GNick99 on Jan 6, 2011 2:47:48 GMT -5
One of worse collapses in Team Canada history. That I have seen anyway. Reminded me of the Molson Meltdown a few year's ago in playoffs against Canes. In '72, we did it against Russians said it was our heart. Can't be because they did it against us. Must just be when one team gets a break or two and gets hot.
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Post by blny on Jan 6, 2011 5:54:45 GMT -5
The site collapsed just in time for the Canadian collapse.
Not sure what happened, but they came out for the third with cement skates on. When Russia upped the pace, they couldnt keep up. Russia came back 3 games in a row to win gold, so it's no fluke. And, they return the favor a bit from 2 years ago. Stings.
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Post by halihab on Jan 6, 2011 8:16:57 GMT -5
Have to give the Russians some credit. They came out hard in the third. After they got that second goal, 12 seconds after the first, they smelt blood. How about that pass from Kuznetsov for the third goal. That was Crosby like. L.A.'s got a good one in him. I also liked how the Russian defence handled themselves after they tied the game up. The Canadian forwards came at them hard but they didn't give in.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 6, 2011 10:43:39 GMT -5
Have to give the Russians some credit. They came out hard in the third. After they got that second goal, 12 seconds after the first, they smelt blood. How about that pass from Kuznetsov for the third goal. That was Crosby like. L.A.'s got a good one in him. I also liked how the Russian defence handled themselves after they tied the game up. The Canadian forwards came at them hard but they didn't give in. Evgeny Kuznetsov is a Washington Kapitals prospect, as is super stud Russian defender Dimitri Orlov. They both have star potential, as does Blues prospect Tarasenko. I have been a fan of LA's prospect Maxim Kitsyn whom I saw live two years ago at the World Junior A Challenge and liked his combination of size, skill and jam. He should be a good one too. I was semi-shocked about how far he fell in the draft (only semi shocked as the "Russian" factor has been at its all time high come draft time). The KHL is a very viable option for these kids now, so we may never see all these drafted kids come over. However, I am sure young gentlemen like Ovechkin and Semin should help work on the two Washington Kapitals prospects. p.s. That 2008 World Junior A Challenge Russian team was stacked with young 16 year olds. They got smoked by the older 19 year old teams, but just look at who was on that team and how they now look as 18-19 year olds: Tarasenko, Kitsyn, Orlov, Kuznetsov, Burmistrov (playing with Thrashers, so could not participate), Kirill Kavanov and goalie Shikin. You could see all that potential on that team. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 6, 2011 11:10:40 GMT -5
Have to give the Russians some credit. They came out hard in the third. After they got that second goal, 12 seconds after the first, they smelt blood. How about that pass from Kuznetsov for the third goal. That was Crosby like. L.A.'s got a good one in him. I also liked how the Russian defence handled themselves after they tied the game up. The Canadian forwards came at them hard but they didn't give in. I heard something this morning that made sense to me, HH. The guy who has a regular sports spot every week morning here in K-town used to be the Queen's Men's Hockey associate coach. He said he could see the Canadians letting up in the second period. There were smiles on the faces of the kids on the bench, the trainers and even some of the coaching staff. Then they get into the dressing room, the skates come off and there's almost a collective sigh of relief knowing that the gold is theirs. And once that happens there's no way of recovering that lost energy. Now, it's possible this isn't the way the scenario unfolded, but I know this guy personally and he's actually gone through it before. When he coached the Queen's hockey team they were in the national final and were down 5-1 going into the third. The players wouldn't let the coaches in the dressing room at the end of the second, because they wanted to sort this out themselves. The final score was 6-5 for Queen's (he told me who the opponent was, but I can't remember) mainly because their opponent went into the same mode as the Canadians did last night. Son of a gun, though. That was good, hard hockey both ways until the Canadian mindset changed. Still, these young guys will remember this for years to come. If nothing else it showed them that you must keep working hard until the final buzzer goes off. Cheers. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 6, 2011 11:41:49 GMT -5
To go with that, Dis.....have a look at Schenn after his 3-0 goal. Tugging at the Team Canada logo on his jersey as if to say, "Look at this, baby! We got it now!" Did they do that often in this tournament? That's the first time I saw it. Wonder what "Canadian hockey's the best" Cherry will have to say about collapsing against RUSSIANS!!!  Personally, it didn't bother me at all. It's a game. Nothing wrong with learning a lesson via thinking the game's over before it's over. You stop skating as fast, checking as hard, and the other team gets on a roll that you can't stop. (Still, I would've liked a couple of big saves....and that stinker that made it 3-2....geez!) |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 6, 2011 11:56:37 GMT -5
I heard something this morning that made sense to me, HH. The guy who has a regular sports spot every week morning here in K-town used to be the Queen's Men's Hockey associate coach. He said he could see the Canadians letting up in the second period. There were smiles on the faces of the kids on the bench, the trainers and even some of the coaching staff. Then they get into the dressing room, the skates come off and there's almost a collective sigh of relief knowing that the gold is theirs. And once that happens there's no way of recovering that lost energy. Now, it's possible this isn't the way the scenario unfolded, but I know this guy personally and he's actually gone through it before. When he coached the Queen's hockey team they were in the national final and were down 5-1 going into the third. The players wouldn't let the coaches in the dressing room at the end of the second, because they wanted to sort this out themselves. The final score was 6-5 for Queen's (he told me who the opponent was, but I can't remember) mainly because their opponent went into the same mode as the Canadians did last night. Son of a gun, though. That was good, hard hockey both ways until the Canadian mindset changed. Still, these young guys will remember this for years to come. If nothing else it showed them that you must keep working hard until the final buzzer goes off. Cheers. I began to get a bit worried about half way through the second. The score was still 3-0, but all the little battles were being won by the Russians. My son-in-law bemoaned that he just wanted it to be a close game, and my response was that it was a very close game, the momentum was switching, and if these Cardiac Russians score one, they will score a few. Their past two games were proof positive. This core group of Russians have all been playing together for years, in the U-18s, World Junior A Challenge, and now in the U-20 World Juniors. A whole lot of them were also on the team that came over for the Canada-Russia Super Series - which the Russians won for the first time (including coming back from a 6-3 deficit to win 7-6 in a shootout against the WHL team in the second last game of that 6 game set). Two goals with less than five minutes to play against the Finns in the quarterfinals, tying it up with the Swedes in the semis with a buck 27 to play. This Russian team had something special going on. If they were Canadians, MacGuire would be talking about this story for decades!! It is an impressive storyline for the Russians, and now the Canadian team coming to AB next year will be pumped to win given the two most recent setbacks in the gold medal game. TSN will be happy, their little made for Canadian TV event just added a lovely storyline going forward. HockeyCanada and the Calgary/Edmonton host committee will also be happy, there will be a lot of fans converging to see those games next year. No border crossing lineups next year!! |
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Post by halihab on Jan 6, 2011 12:18:46 GMT -5
Have to give the Russians some credit. They came out hard in the third. After they got that second goal, 12 seconds after the first, they smelt blood. How about that pass from Kuznetsov for the third goal. That was Crosby like. L.A.'s got a good one in him. I also liked how the Russian defence handled themselves after they tied the game up. The Canadian forwards came at them hard but they didn't give in. Evgeny Kuznetsov is a Washington Kapitals prospect, as is super stud Russian defender Dimitri Orlov. They both have star potential, as does Blues prospect Tarasenko. I have been a fan of LA's prospect Maxim Kitsyn whom I saw live two years ago at the World Junior A Challenge and liked his combination of size, skill and jam. He should be a good one too. I was semi-shocked about how far he fell in the draft (only semi shocked as the "Russian" factor has been at its all time high come draft time). The KHL is a very viable option for these kids now, so we may never see all these drafted kids come over. However, I am sure young gentlemen like Ovechkin and Semin should help work on the two Washington Kapitals prospects. p.s. That 2008 World Junior A Challenge Russian team was stacked with young 16 year olds. They got smoked by the older 19 year old teams, but just look at who was on that team and how they now look as 18-19 year olds: Tarasenko, Kitsyn, Orlov, Kuznetsov, Burmistrov (playing with Thrashers, so could not participate), Kirill Kavanov and goalie Shikin. You could see all that potential on that team. My bad NWT. you are correct, I knew LA had a prospect that I liked (Kitsyn). |
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Post by halihab on Jan 6, 2011 12:23:02 GMT -5
To go with that, Dis.....have a look at Schenn after his 3-0 goal. Tugging at the Team Canada logo on his jersey as if to say, "Look at this, baby! We got it now!" Did they do that often in this tournament? That's the first time I saw it. Wonder what "Canadian hockey's the best" Cherry will have to say about collapsing against RUSSIANS!!! Personally, it didn't bother me at all. It's a game. Nothing wrong with learning a lesson via thinking the game's over before it's over. You stop skating as fast, checking as hard, and the other team gets on a roll that you can't stop. (Still, I would've liked a couple of big saves....and that stinker that made it 3-2....geez!) The outcome didn't bother me as well CH. I liked the action and was impressed by the Russians. Personally I was getting tired of all the Hoopla and how great we are from the TSN experts.  |
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Post by franko on Jan 6, 2011 17:39:38 GMT -5
too much celebrating Members of the Russian world junior hockey championship team, still high off their improbable comeback victory against Canada in Wednesday’s final, were brought back down to earth Thursday after they were kicked off a flight in Buffalo, New York for unruly behaviour.
The team, celebrating its come-from behind 5-3 win over Team Canada, were removed from a Delta Air Lines flight just before the plane took off at approximately 6:10 a.m.
“To ensure the safe operation of the flight, the crew of flight 1266 denied boarding to 30 passengers who were travelling together and displaying unruly behaviour,” said Delta spokeswoman Susan Elliott in a statement. “The passengers are being rebooked on a future flight.”
The flight was scheduled to fly from Buffalo to Atlanta at 6:15 a.m.
“They were asked by the flight crew to calm down,” said Doug Hartmayer with the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority, which is in charge of security operations at the airport. “When they didn’t, that’s when they were asked to leave the plane. They left in an orderly manner.”
The team was forced to deboard the plane, retrieve its luggage and leave the terminal.
Hartmayer said an additional five or six police officers attended the terminal to assist in the escort.
Police at the airport said the players appeared to be intoxicated.
If the players were drunk, they would have been consuming alcohol illegally, since the legal drinking age in the state of New York is 21, and players on world junior teams must be 20 years of age and under.
Hartmayer wouldn’t confirm the players were inebriated but said the team’s behaviour “wasn’t consistent with what you want to find on an airplane.”
The team was reportedly staying in a Buffalo-area hotel until a new flight can be scheduled.
The young Russians had stayed at the Adam’s Mark Hotel in downtown Buffalo for the past 12 days and had checked out around 3 a.m. for the airport.
“We are looking into it but we did not have an occurrence with any incident here,” said hotel manager Jim Burke. “The team was well-behaved. They’re great kids.”
Burke said the players were in a private banquet room for a late-night dinner which ended at 1 a.m.
No alcohol was served by the hotel staff, he added.
Dave Fischer with USA Hockey, one of the organizers of the international tournament, said officials were just learning about the incident.
“It was a marvellous tournament. It was highly successful,” he said. “There are always things that don’t go 100 per cent. I don’t know exactly what happened and until I know all the facts, the severity of the facts, it would be inappropriate for me to comment.”
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Post by Disp on Jan 6, 2011 18:03:12 GMT -5
I didn't think the team quit, or thought the game was over, as most pundits are saying today. We had an inflexible game plan. Not that surprising when it worked so well against the states.
Russia adjusted. Crammed up the neutral zone, stopped chasing, and had their forwards, not dmen, force the canadian dump. Gave their d a chance to move the puck before they got creamed. Caught us going the wrong way for the last 25 minutes of the game. Guys were still trying to get in on the forecheck and the puck is going the other way. In a series I think we adjust and win. Unfortunately this is a one shot, one game, deal. Full props to Russia.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Jan 26, 2011 13:05:04 GMT -5
To go with that, Dis.....have a look at Schenn after his 3-0 goal. Tugging at the Team Canada logo on his jersey as if to say, "Look at this, baby! We got it now!" Players from many countries have been doing that for a few years now. I've always thought it's a proud to be insert nationality here statement. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 26, 2011 22:19:08 GMT -5
To go with that, Dis.....have a look at Schenn after his 3-0 goal. Tugging at the Team Canada logo on his jersey as if to say, "Look at this, baby! We got it now!" Players from many countries have been doing that for a few years now. I've always thought it's a proud to be insert nationality here statement. True enough, IAC. Even if there was a bit of bravado behind it, Schenn was having a heck of a tournament and things were looking pretty good at that point. Sometimes I forget that they're just kids. |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 26, 2011 23:56:38 GMT -5
I wonder if he hurt his shoulder tugging on his sweater like that. Could be. Oh the irony.
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