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Post by BadCompany on Apr 29, 2011 6:55:57 GMT -5
Duly noted For a second straight week, the Star's inimitable Bob Hepburn is all about the Harper scare quotes. We especially like that out of 500 pages, he picks the following quote in hopes of sending shivers down our spines: "I do think we've gone too far on some of that arts and culture funding." We can only imagine the mass panic. "Oh God, but I already voted! Is it too late to undo? Ctrl-Z! Ctrl-Z!" This one cracked me up. ;D |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 29, 2011 8:51:56 GMT -5
there's rhetoric, and then there's rhetoric. come on, MC . . . you are seriously suggesting the end of democracy with the Conservatives in power? was there any less [or more] of a democracy when Chretien was PM? This is the arguement I don't get. I realize, every party uses it too - its akin to "I know you are, but what am I" child bantering. The country voted the Libs out because of scandal and the effects of staying too long in power with no oversight. There was really, IMO, no other option back then - absolute power corrupts absolutely and there has never been a bigger example of it than Chretien's Liberals. But, if we keep harking backwards, how do we ever go forwards? Why do we give Harper a free pass because a past Liberal government was bad? Harper was voted in because he said he was going to change Ottawa ... he promised a Triple E Senate, he promised openess and accountability, he promised to be different than past Liberal governments. Yet, he has shown time and time again to be worse. Voting him back in, is telling him, "way to go, secrecy and undemocratic politics, is the way we want this country run" ... maybe calling his tactics undemocratic is harse, but to me thats exactly what he is doing. And I for one, do not want our country run that way. |
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Post by franko on Apr 29, 2011 9:50:26 GMT -5
I think you are misreading me, Skilly.
I am in no way sticking up for Harper; nor am I saying that because every PM since Trudeau has done the same it is an excuse to do so. I was just suggesting that MC was being a little over the top.
maybe that was his intent [I'll await his reply]. but know this: I am no fan of power being concentrated int he PM's office. we are supposed to have a representative democracy [we've never had "pure" democracy] . . . I'd like it back.
to be honest, I don't know what is "scarier": the Conservatives with Harper at the helm keeping his caucus quiet because they sometimes don't think before speaking, or the NDP with Layton at the helm with a caucus that is totally clueless so Jack tells them not to speak because of what will come out of their mouths!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 29, 2011 10:17:34 GMT -5
Kind of reminds me of Al Gore in a way ... green is the way to go ... from my limo ... ======================================================= Bicycle Jack a national problem
By Sue-Ann Levy ,Toronto Sun TORONTO - When NDP Leader Jack Layton left City Hall for greener federal pastures in the spring of 2003, I bid good riddance (to bad rubbish). I figured he couldn’t do much damage being the head of a moribund third party. I could be eating my words on Monday night. Not that Bicycle Jack, or the Patron Saint of the Environment or Just Jack the Smog Saviour — the names I gave him depending on what cause of the day he was pushing — ever made life dull. Nevertheless I quickly learned that whenever he rolled up the sleeves of his buttoned-down shirts in some city committee or in council — his trademark gesture to show he was the Everyman — Layton was about to make some pronouncement that would jack up our taxes. Whatever pet cause he was zealously promoting — the environment, the homeless or himself — money was no object to this relentless spender. The Patron Saint of Many Causes had no problem, either, making a shameless spectacle of the very people he purported to be championing. I will never forget that day in the fall of 1998 when — as 450 of his homeless friends and assorted poverty pimps packed the council chambers — he convinced councillors to declare homelessness a “national disaster” in Toronto along the lines of an ice storm or tsunami. But Layton achieved what he intended. He promoted himself as the council point person on homelessness and manipulated then mayor Mel Lastman into pouring millions and millions of dollars into emergency homeless shelters, grants and what I called not-so-affordable housing. His homeless schemes didn’t stop there. In June of 2000, he tried to convince councillors the city should erect “creative” emergency shelters — trailers, tents and mobile homes — to allow the homeless to live in downtown parks all summer. Less than a year later, he did manage to persuade a majority of councillors to proceed with proposals for pre-fab housing (at $50,000 to $100,000 per home) to accommodate the squatters living in Tent City on a waterfront piece of property. Those squatters were finally evicted a few months later, much to Layton’s chagrin. It should come as no surprise that his hypocrisy extended to his environmental crusade as well. Despite repeatedly painting himself as a Smog Saviour, Layton was found to be one of the highest users of the city’s fleet of limos. When I questioned Bicycle Jack about it in 2001, he told me 20% of the 541 rides he used were to “deliver stuff quickly and efficiently” to constituents and the rest were to get to the airport or to a ward meeting. His outdid himself, however, in October of 2000 when he convinced his NDP pals on council to grandstand for eight long days at council in an attempt to derail the $1-billion contract to ship Toronto’s garbage to the abandoned Adams Mine site near Kirkland Lake. The deal eventually fell through and we can thank Layton for spearheading the back-up plan — that is, to send Toronto’s trash using up to 200 trucks daily along Hwy. 401 to a Michigan landfill site, a far more costly and environmentally unfriendly deal which ended just last year. Let’s not forget Layton’s partner in crime — wife Olivia Chow, now an NDP MP, who made some very unholy alliances while at City Hall, particularly with the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty (OCAP) terrorists. A fierce opponent of the revitalization of the island airport, Chow was there along with her islander friends protesting the day Porter Air took off for the first time. So this folks is what Canadians can look forward to if the Patron Saint of Many Causes finds himself in a position of power, or heaven forbid, prime minister: Shameless theatrics, A Sky’s the Limit attitude when it comes to spending on the environment and the downtrodden; A Unions Rule mentality and most of all Taxes, Taxes and more Taxes. Let’s not forget one other bonus — Olivia Chow snuggling up next to him at 24 Sussex. www.torontosun.com/2011/04/28/levy-bicycle-jack-a-national-problem (link) |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 29, 2011 13:01:33 GMT -5
I would rather continue to live in a democracy than have "more financial options" or a "strong military." But that's just me. That's hilarious. The only appropriate response is.... ........When the Harper Blackshirts come to get you, just tell them you know HA.  |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 29, 2011 13:05:34 GMT -5
Kind of reminds me of Al Gore in a way ... green is the way to go ... from my limo ... I love the term "Watermelon Environmentalist". Green on the outside and command and control red on the inside. And let's not forget......they know better and controlling you for your own good. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 29, 2011 16:49:15 GMT -5
Can't say it's going to sway my vote, though. The Tories have provided more financial options to me around tax time and they know how to maintain and promote a strong military. I can't say for sure, but under the NDP I can see the military going back to blue berets (an honourable calling), having their numbers slashed and their equipment neglected (like under the Liberals). And, again while I don't know for sure, I'm thinking we're going to be taxed out the hoop for the social programs Mr Layton wants to implement. The worst-case scenario might be comparing us to Denmark where 50% + on personal income taxes is the norm and has been for years now. I'm not ready for that to be honest. Cheers. I would rather continue to live in a democracy than have "more financial options" or a "strong military." But that's just me. I think I understand your concerns about Harper, if that's where you are going. But, if it comes down to making a choice of the three major parties, I'll go with the devil I know. I'm not sure why financial gains threaten democracy. And, while I don't agree with the F-35 purchase, I really don't know how a strong military compromises democracy. You've left some loose ends there mate. Have at 'er  Cheers. |
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Post by franko on Apr 29, 2011 19:51:38 GMT -5
most boring election campaign on record -- or at least in my lifetime.
if it weren't for Jacko's surge in popularity it'd be a total snooze-fest [probably what Harper was hoping for].
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Post by Skilly on Apr 29, 2011 20:31:48 GMT -5
I would rather continue to live in a democracy than have "more financial options" or a "strong military." But that's just me. I think I understand your concerns about Harper, if that's where you are going. But, if it comes down to making a choice of the three major parties, I'll go with the devil I know. I'm not sure why financial gains threaten democracy. And, while I don't agree with the F-35 purchase, I really don't know how a strong military compromises democracy. You've left some loose ends there mate. Have at 'er Cheers. I think what MC meant was that Harper's economics policies may put more money in your pocket, they may even be the best economics policies for the country, but is that worth the type of tactics he uses to run the country? A strong military can be good for a country too (can be bad also, but i digress) but would you want it built up at the expense of having the country run by strong arm tactics? MC has decided that he'd rather live in a country that respects the parliamentary democracy principles ... a few tax breaks and fighter jets is not going to sway that opinion. |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 30, 2011 0:01:40 GMT -5
This is so precious.....the guy who loudly champions womans rights and abuses humps woman who are forced into sex trades.
Way to go Jack.
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Layton found in bawdy house: Ex-cop
TORONTO - Jack Layton was found laying naked on a bed by Toronto Police at a suspected Chinatown bawdy house in 1996, a retired Toronto police officer told the Toronto Sun.
The stunning revelation about the current leader of the New Democratic Party comes days before the federal election at a time when his popularity is soaring.
When the policeman and his partner walked into a second-floor room at the Toronto massage parlour, they saw an attractive 5-foot-10 Asian woman who was in her mid-20s and the married, then-Metro councillor, lying on his back in bed.
Layton was cautioned by police and released without being charged.
Olivia Chow, Layton's wife, denied her husband had done anything wrong in an e-mail statement late Friday night.
"Sixteen years ago, my husband went for a massage at a massage clinic that is registered with the City of Toronto," Chow wrote. "He exercises regularly; he was and remains in great shape; and he needed a massage.
"I knew about this appointment, as I always do."
In a letter from his lawyer, Layton recalls "being advised by police at the time that he did nothing wrong."
What police say happened on Jan. 9, 1996, was recorded in the former cop's notebook, which was reviewed and photocopied by the Toronto Sun.
The former Asian crime unit officer, who requested anonymity, details a prior police raid on the "premise currently ID as a bawdy house" looking for underage Asian hookers and a subsequent follow-up visit to the two-storey brick storefront on Jan. 9.
At first the policemen didn't realize they were interviewing one of the best-known Toronto politicians who was married to Chow, also a Metro councillor and now the incumbent NDP MP for Trinity-Spadina.
The officer's notebook indicates he asked the suspected john: "Did you receive any sexual services?"
He replied: "No sir, I was just getting a shiatsu."
The cop: "Why did you have all your clothes off?"
The suspected john: No answer.
The cop: "Are you aware that there were sex acts being done here?"
The suspected john: "No sir."
The woman, who was from mainland China, denied masturbating the suspected john but when the question was repeated became nervous and replied, "I don't know I only come to work today," the cop's notes show.
His notes also claim he saw the "female dump wet Kleenex into garbage."
In the interview with the Sun, the officer said: "I asked him for his wallet and I looked at his name and I looked at the last name and it looked familiar.
He's registered as 'John' and I thought he's a 'john.'"
Layton's Christian name is John.
"I explained to him this was a bawdy house and then I asked him the silliest question, 'Are you any relation to the councillor, Jack Layton?' and ... he had that defeated look on his face and he said, 'We are one in the same,'"
the ex-cop said.
The former officer said Layton, seemed quiet and mellow and denied that he knew it was a suspected bawdy house.
The police had to decide what to do with the controversial councillor.
"To have arrested him and charged him would have served our egos a lot more. Layton was a thorn in the side of the police, siding with the anti-poverty movement in '96 or '97 ... Jack was anti-police," the ex-cop said.
"We looked at it and thought do we take advantage of this, or do we look at this like (he's) any other person, put it away and we hope this thing dies a slow death."
In the end, they came to the conclusion they shouldn't charge him.
"If we had barged in and he was engaged in a sex act and we had plainly saw it, then it would have been a different story."
The officers said police filled out a suspect investigation card that recorded his name, address, date of birth -- July 18, 1950 -- height and weight.
That information would be filed away by a civilian administrator for crime analysts to use in tracking criminals with particular attributes.
The former cop is surprised it took so long for the incident to become public.
"This stuff was never leaked out back then. The professionalism was outstanding. I thought this would have come out. This thing within the circle was so well known."
The policemen warned the councillor about the dangers of hanging out in suspected bawdy houses that could be run by Asian triads.
"I remembered lecturing him on a lot of these triads, they'd videotape the customers and extort them afterwards. Jack went pale. I said to him you have to understand it's quite possible," he says.
"He came on a bicycle. I escorted him down and he went away on his bike."
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 30, 2011 7:32:13 GMT -5
I think I understand your concerns about Harper, if that's where you are going. But, if it comes down to making a choice of the three major parties, I'll go with the devil I know. I'm not sure why financial gains threaten democracy. And, while I don't agree with the F-35 purchase, I really don't know how a strong military compromises democracy. You've left some loose ends there mate. Have at 'er Cheers. I think what MC meant was that Harper's economics policies may put more money in your pocket, they may even be the best economics policies for the country, but is that worth the type of tactics he uses to run the country? A strong military can be good for a country too (can be bad also, but i digress) but would you want it built up at the expense of having the country run by strong arm tactics? MC has decided that he'd rather live in a country that respects the parliamentary democracy principles ... a few tax breaks and fighter jets is not going to sway that opinion. No worries Skilly. I just wanted MC to tell me buds. Thanks. Cheers. |
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Post by franko on Apr 30, 2011 7:46:21 GMT -5
No worries Skilly. I just wanted MC to tell me buds. Thanks. Cheers. me too |
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Post by franko on Apr 30, 2011 7:47:03 GMT -5
come on, HA, he's just creating employment opportunities
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 30, 2011 8:23:47 GMT -5
come on, HA, he's just creating employment opportunities I saw it earlier this morning and got a chuckle out of it. Just like the limo story the other day. Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 30, 2011 11:36:54 GMT -5
It gets better by the minute.
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Layton advocated ban on lap dancing
John Gilbert "Jack" Layton made headlines in 1995 and 1996 while advocating a ban on lap dancing in Toronto.
"A strip bar is not a petting zoo," Layton said at the time, urging local politicians to outlaw private VIP rooms in strip clubs.
[B["These are sexual assault parlours and rape cubicles," he said.
A controversial 1994 court ruling opened the doors to "dirty dancing" in strip clubs, which led Layton and former striper Katharine Goldberg to claim that exotic dancers were being sexually assaulted and forced into prostitution.
The former Metro council eventually passed a bylaw banning customers from touching dancers in clubs.
During a national debate after Canada's prostitution laws were struck down in 2010, Layton was asked about his views on prostitution.
"It needs to -- and will, I'm sure -- open up a debate on how we can ensure that women who find themselves involved in prostitution and as sex workers are better protected," he said.
"We have taken the view that aspects of the law need to be changed to protect women."
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I guess Jack thinks that his past is never going to catch up to him.....or a pasted smile is going to cover it up.
I don't have a problem with woman who choose to sell sex. Or man who frequent them. What I do have a problem is that these cathouses are filled with sex trade slaves. Woman who are promised better lives by gang bangers in their country and then are forced to work for years as whores to pay off their "debt".
And then....we have politicians who scream and cry about the tragedy........while humping them. Like Shiatsu Jack....
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Post by franko on Apr 30, 2011 19:18:19 GMT -5
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 30, 2011 23:02:14 GMT -5
HA....where does it say he "humps sex trade slaves"? I missed that.
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Post by Cranky on Apr 30, 2011 23:30:05 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on May 1, 2011 12:53:15 GMT -5
Here's the quandary I face.
Harper - I thought we were past the monarchy stage
Layton - Can't even understand the Idiot's Guide to Economics
Duceppe - Not even running a candidate here. Not sure why, perhaps British Columbia would like to separate too.
Ignatieff - ? Hardly an inspiring image.
Next.....?
Obviously a lot of people are tired of this same repetitive question and figure Layton is the guy who looks best in a photo op.
I think all of them are losers, which is probably the bigger story of this election. Where are our competent leaders?
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Post by franko on May 1, 2011 13:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by franko on May 1, 2011 13:33:32 GMT -5
an interesting op-ed With the NDP’s public election platform already packed with more than 200 extreme, unworkable, radical and mostly undesirable promises, it might surprise some to learn that Jack Layton’s current power trip packs at lot more baggage under the floorboards.
How much more can there be? They’ve got plans for what amounts to a 10¢-a-litre cap-and-trade tax on gasoline, doubled pension plan contributions, corporate tax increases, plus a long list of plans and schemes to newly regulate pharmaceuticals, banking, oil, food, telecom, railways and many other industries. As for monetary policy, not mentioned in the platform but recently the subject of comment, Mr. Layton says that he wants to maintain an “arm’s length” relationship with the Bank of Canada, although he apparently at the same time intends to jawbone the bank over interest rates and the value of the dollar.
This is all bad enough, but now let’s have a rummage through the baggage rack and under the floorboards. We’re looking for plans Mr. Layton didn’t mention in the platform, long-standing NDP agenda items, ideological positions they don’t talk much about but which underlie everything the party does. Does the NDP have any “hidden agendas”?
The CBC’s Leslie MacKinnon recently reported on the NDP’s official constitution, a 2003 document that specifies why the NDP exists. It turns out the NDP constitution is itself a hidden agenda.
First, here’s a core statement from the preamble outlining the “principles of democratic socialism” that guide the party:
* That the production and distribution of goods and services shall be directed to meeting the social and individual needs of people within a sustainable environment and economy and not to the making of profit;
* To modify and control the operations of the monopolistic productive and distributive organizations through economic and social planning. Towards these ends and where necessary, the extension of the principle of social ownership….
* The New Democratic Party is proud to be associated with the democratic socialist parties of the world and to share the struggle for peace, international co-operation and the abolition of poverty.
The above NDP constitutional extract is unfortunately not available on the NDP website. Ms MacKinnon asked about this omission and was told that the party’s constitution is an “internal” document that is only available to members, not to voters who might be interested in NDP principles. Other questions raised appropriately by Ms. MacKinnon: “Does the NDP have a problem with the making of profits? Does social ownership mean the nationalization of certain industries? And does the NDP still deeply believe in these precepts, or has it repudiated them?”
Or does the NDP have a hidden agenda well beyond the fat agenda in the election platform?
That the NDP has larger ideological and political aspirations can be found in the party’s busy legislative effort under Mr. Layton. Most of these bills, not mentioned in the platform, are part of the NDP’s active policy agenda. This is stuff they would do, even if not part of the official election campaign.
Bill C-311 A pet project through the last session of Parliament, and long a part of the NDP agenda. It’s an act to ensure Canada assumes its responsibilities in preventing “dangerous” climate change under United Nations agreements. The word “dangerous” is code for a UN trigger clause that would jumpstart massive global government regulation. Mr. Layton personally backed C-311, a bill loaded with regulatory process and expanded government control over all carbon-generating economic activity. In essence, it would formally lock Canada into following UN-based dictates, even if those dictates were contrary to Canadian interests and even contrary to common sense.
Bill C-502 An act to block oil tankers from entering waters off the British Columbia coast, a move that would prevent the export of oil and gas.
Bill C-337 A union crowd-pleaser that aims to prevent federally regulated industries from hiring replacement workers in the event of a strike. Sounds innocuous, although it would do little more than give unions at airlines, railways and other firms more power and make it more difficult for companies to compete and make profits (see constitution above).
Bill C-469 An Act to establish a Canadian Environmental Bill of Rights would, in practice, bog businesses down in legal and regulatory thickets every time they are seen to be doing some “harm” to the environment.
Other bills make up the hidden agenda list: C-518 would shut down aquaculture; C-474 would move to subject agricultural seeds to review for “potential harm” before “any new genetically modified seed is permitted;” C-298 would impose “corporate social responsibility” on Canadian mining companies operating abroad.
That last bill is also known as the bill to encourage mining companies to set up head offices in other countries — composed, as such companies are, of profit-seeking enterprises currently outside the grasp of NDP “social ownership.”
All the above failed to become law. But the NDP is full of many more such ideas fashioned out of the socialist ideology that’s at the official core of the party’s constitutional agenda, a hidden agenda that it seems voters are not supposed to know about. Terence Corcoran, National Post
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Post by Cranky on May 1, 2011 18:01:41 GMT -5
Here's the quandary I face. Harper - I thought we were past the monarchy stage Layton - Can't even understand the Idiot's Guide to Economics Duceppe - Not even running a candidate here. Not sure why, perhaps British Columbia would like to separate too. Ignatieff - ? Hardly an inspiring image. Next.....? Obviously a lot of people are tired of this same repetitive question and figure Layton is the guy who looks best in a photo op. I think all of them are losers, which is probably the bigger story of this election. Where are our competent leaders? I have a different take......but I voted already. Layton.....will frighten the living hell out of investment and make commercial real estate cheaper. Top it off with pending inflation and we got a mees of epic proportions. Ducepticon......don't care. Iggy....too moderate in leftist policies. Only minor damage so inflation will just eat at us. Harper...will keep going in a safe, predictable direction. It's either Harper keeps the ship upright or Layton crashing into the rocks. Either will work for me. As for the monarchy thingy, I have yet to meet anyone who wanted to talk to an MP and couldn't. Or even tried. Does he want to keep a tight ship? Sure. So would I if everything I did was subject to the 24/7 news cycle. Heck, Pravda Star makes up headlines and spin when they can't find anything. Witness....."King Harper" headlines a week back. Anywho...we are heading in very dangerous waters so.....get your economic house in order. |
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Post by Cranky on May 1, 2011 18:07:56 GMT -5
Wikipedia with a list of endorsements from the media on the eve of the election: The current tally of the newspaper/magazine endorsements for the 2011 Canadian federal election: Endorsing the Conservatives The Brampton Guardian The Brockville Recorder & Times Burlington Post Calgary Herald Calgary Sun Durham Region News The Economist Edmonton Examiner Edmonton Journal Edmonton Sun Etobicoke Guardian The Globe and Mail The Mississauga News The Gazette (Montreal) The Hamilton Spectator Inside Toronto Maclean's National Post Oakville Beaver Ottawa Sun The Province (Vancouver) Simcoe County News The Suburban (Quebec) Sudbury Star Toronto Sun The Vancouver Sun Waterloo Region Record Windsor Star Winnipeg Free Press Winnipeg Sun Endorsing the Liberals None. (!!!) Endorsing the New Democratic Party Now (Toronto) Toronto Star Endorsing the Bloc Québécois Le Devoir Endorsing the Greens None. Endorsing multiple parties The Georgia Straight - Recommends strategic voting for specific candidates to prevent the election of Conservatives, except for in Port Moody–Westwood–Port Coquitlam Ottawa Citizen - Recommends a Conservative majority, but endorses the LPC in Stormont-Dundas-South, Gatineau, Ottawa-Orléans, and Ottawa South, CPC in Carleton-Mississippi Mills, Ottawa West-Nepean, Glengarry-Prescott-Russell, Lanark-Frontenac-Lennox and Addington, Pontiac, Ottawa-Vanier, Nepean-Carleton, and Leeds-Grenville, NDP in Hull-Aylmer, and Ottawa-Centre, and Independent Hector Clouthier in Renfrew-Nipissing-Pembroke. La Presse (Montreal) - Recommends LPC in Outremont, Westmount-Ville-Marie and Papineau, NDP in Rosemont-La-Petite-Patrie, Abitibi-Baie-James-Nunavik-Eeyou and Hull-Aylmer, and CPC in Mégantic-L'Érable, Pontiac and Lac-Saint-Louis. Explicitly endorsing no party Le Soleil (Quebec City) - Recommends voting for the best local candidate. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspap...election,_2011 |
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Post by Skilly on May 1, 2011 18:21:37 GMT -5
I notice there isn't one Eastern paper there ... |
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Post by franko on May 1, 2011 20:11:22 GMT -5
Harper: I want him to stand up for what he believes rather than playing it safe.
Iggy: I wanted to vote for him, I really did.
Layton: I want him to honestly explain his policies.
May: I want her gone and someone credible to lead the Greens.
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Post by seventeen on May 1, 2011 20:29:19 GMT -5
Harper...will keep going in a safe, predictable direction. It's either Harper keeps the ship upright or Layton crashing into the rocks. Either will work for me. As for the monarchy thingy, I have yet to meet anyone who wanted to talk to an MP and couldn't. Or even tried. Does he want to keep a tight ship? Sure. So would I if everything I did was subject to the 24/7 news cycle. Heck, Pravda Star makes up headlines and spin when they can't find anything. Witness....."King Harper" headlines a week back. Anywho...we are heading in very dangerous waters so.....get your economic house in order. Firstly, even if the NDP gain more seats than the Liberals, they're unlikely to actually form the government. If they do, then voters really are fed up with the status quo. Seondly, you can talk to any conservative MP you like, till the cows come home, but will you get anything other than lip service. I think not. There's control and still letting the people who report to you do their job, and then there's dictatorship. This one ain't benevolent. He just does not have the morals or ethics I care for, or I'd vote conservative. It's a good idea to keep your economic house in order regardless of who's in power, right HA? More NDP involvement in policies means I move to more global investments to take advantage of the declining Canadian dollar. In some ways that might be a good thing (temporarily). Anyway, I sure hope the Rhino or Marijuana party is running a candidate in our riding. I'd certainly vote for Monty Python's Silly Party. |
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Post by Skilly on May 1, 2011 20:31:00 GMT -5
Harper: I want him to stand up for what he believes rather than playing it safe. Iggy: I wanted to vote for him, I really did. Layton: I want him to honestly explain his policies. May: I want her gone and someone credible to lead the Greens. Harper: I don't trust him and I'm sick of his abuse of the parliamentary process ... once, twice? Ok , all government play those tricks once or twice. But Harper is the worse abuser (especially of using the budget implementation bill) of disregarding the parliamentary process in Canadian history. (I read in one article anyway). There comes a time you can't say "so and so does it too" to excuse him ...and realize this is how he operates all the time, especially when he doesn't get his way. Name someone who went to the polls saying he couldn't work in the parliamentary system unless he gets a majority? Basically saying from the get-go that he won't respect the will of the electorate? Iggy: I wish he wasn't so god-d*mn arrogant. He acts like it is his right to govern the country. He comes of as someone who thinks they are smarter and better than you .... Layton: I wish he had policies I could agree with ... just one ... thats all I ask .... May:  Duceppe: I wish he realized that if he ran candidates outside of Quebec, he'd give millions more a means to voice their displeasure. |
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Post by Skilly on May 1, 2011 20:41:56 GMT -5
Firstly, even if the NDP gain more seats than the Liberals, they're unlikely to actually form the government. If they do, then voters really are fed up with the status quo. Seondly, you can talk to any conservative MP you like, till the cows come home, but will you get anything other than lip service. I think not. There's control and still letting the people who report to you do their job, and then there's dictatorship. This one ain't benevolent. He just does not have the morals or ethics I care for, or I'd vote conservative. The conservatice candidate here is running ads saying "I want to challenge the staus quo" and "vote for the candidate that will refresh politics in Ottawa" He has a few in my family won over, and they keep harping on me to vote for him ... and I keep telling them - how is he going to challenge squat from the back-benches with Harper kicking out of caucus anyone who opens their lips against him. Fabian Manning said the same thing and went to Ottawa as a "yes man" - yes Mr. Harper sir, I will lie to my fellow Newfoundlanders for a Senate seat. ********************************** Harper keeps saying that a coalition is a Constitutional debate ... it isn't - it is written clear as day in it. They are legit. But fear not ... I don't think the Liberals will form a coalition with the NDP if the NDP is the official opposition. Eventually the NDP will move a little to the center and merge with the Liberals... |
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Post by franko on May 1, 2011 20:57:34 GMT -5
Eventually the NDP will move a little to the center and merge with the Liberals... yup, and after a couple of years the NewNDP will start fielding candidates because of the centrist LibDP's positions. meanwhile, the western Conservatives will migrate tot he Wild Rose Party leaving the Eastern PCs to restart . . . and we're back to more fun. |
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Post by franko on May 1, 2011 20:58:37 GMT -5
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