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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 3, 2012 21:34:36 GMT -5
Ryan Murray with a bad game so far. Both goals in off him. Gave up an odd man rush off a very bad turnover.
Two man advantage. Need to score here.
Cannot quite believe it, but the third Russian goal went in off Murray's stick as well. 3-1 bad guys.
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Post by blny on Jan 3, 2012 22:23:13 GMT -5
Total implosion. Every mistake ends up in the net. Kuznetzov only scores goals in two games. One he had 5, tonight it's 3.
Feel like I'm watching a Habs game.
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Post by Disp on Jan 3, 2012 22:31:24 GMT -5
Could tell early on that Wedgewood was nervous. Way too deep. If he's on top of his crease some of those hit him.
Not impressed with the choice of goalies for this team.
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Post by Disp on Jan 3, 2012 23:36:30 GMT -5
A goal post short of an amazing comeback. Bunch of brainfarts and no goaltending to bail them out. Really bad play by Beaulieau on the 6th russian goal, gave up on the play. Don't like seeing that.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 3, 2012 23:36:45 GMT -5
What an insane finish. Gallagher with three points in the third period of a losing cause. Down 6-1 in the third and they almost pulled it off.
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Post by 24in93 on Jan 3, 2012 23:53:03 GMT -5
A goal post short of an amazing comeback. Bunch of brainfarts and no goaltending to bail them out. Really bad play by Beaulieau on the 6th russian goal, gave up on the play. Don't like seeing that. I thought at the time that the Beaulieu play wouldn't have much relevance in the end (didn't like what I saw either) but it ended up being the game-winner. Too bad. |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 4, 2012 2:00:55 GMT -5
Hard lesson for the kid, but one that will stay with him. The costliest mistakes are those you don't forget.
I only saw the first period, but knew right away that the Russians had a wheelbarrow load of horseshoes tonight. When one of their guys butt ends another one of their guys and you get a penalty for it, things are going their way. That was reinforced by the first two goals going in off Canadian players. Tough enough to win when you're not scoring for the other guys.
I thought Wedgewood was a good choice going in, especially since Visentin can't seem to handle pressure well yet. But it seems we didn't get the big saves, while the Russians had to get some from their goalie, considering the shot totals. If this is the same Russian coach as last year, the Habs should hire him, he seems to have a truckload of luck.
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Post by MC Habber on Jan 4, 2012 2:06:26 GMT -5
Well, prior to the big near-comeback, I was wondering if there had ever been a Team Canada with less character. So many cheap shots, high sticks and stupid, unsportsmanlike plays that it was hard to cheer for them. Good for them for making it close, but it's a lot easier when everything suddenly goes your way.
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Post by blny on Jan 4, 2012 6:57:00 GMT -5
I should have gone to bed in the second. Maybe they'd have won. Oh well. As nice as it was to show some character in the third, you can't play part of a game and expect to win. Sounds familiar ...
Disp, I noted Wedgewood's play early too. Deep in the net, and frozen as pucks drifted by. He wasn't seeing the puck well at all. That said, the first three goals are about as unfortunate as you can get. They got a tournament's worth of misfortune in one game. Some of it was self-inflicted.
Certainly a lack of composure in the second, but Hay should have taken a time out after the third goal. After a strong start to the second, and getting to within one, that third goal took all the wind out of their sails. He should have settled the troops down, paused, and given everyone in the building a chance to get over it.
Canada isn't the goaltending factory it used to be. That said, the Russian goalie had a fair bit of luck go his way last night. 3 posts in the first five minutes of the second, more in the third.
Hopefully the buckle down after the disappointment and are ready to play the Finns. Finland gave it away to Sweden yesterday, and will be hungry to leave with a medal.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jan 4, 2012 9:30:43 GMT -5
Disappointing that Beaulieu was a total non-factor in the tournament. Did he even play in all of the games? I don't know if he was a cusp player to begin with or if he just didn't play well enough to earn the minutes. I thought he would be more of a presence as a 19-year old.
I hate to admit, but I was totally impressed with Dougie Hamilton who was drafted by the Bruins ahead of Beaulieu last year.
Gallagher looks like another Brian Gionta, and I love his heart and drive. That's the best I've seen a Habs prospect play at the WJC in a long time (besides Price).
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Post by Skilly on Jan 4, 2012 10:00:32 GMT -5
Right from the start it looked to me that every Canadian player had dreams of being the next Jordan Eberle ... it was all me me me, and they didn't start toplay as a team until it was too late.
And what was with them trying to pummel any player in a Russian uniform for two periods?? Sure it is fine to go for the hit if it was a part of the play, but they were going for Russians and putting themselves out of the play and doing it after the whistle ... it was like the game plan was to hit the Russians into submission. The days of scaring the Russians, especially these younger ones, are over. They relish playing Team Canada, sadly our young players seem to get nervous against the US and Russians or try to be heroes
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Post by franko on Jan 4, 2012 10:07:54 GMT -5
I hate to admit, but I was totally impressed with Dougie Hamilton who was drafted by the Bruins ahead of Beaulieu last year. Habs would never have drafted him anyway -- he hits  |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 4, 2012 11:54:40 GMT -5
I hate to admit, but I was totally impressed with Dougie Hamilton who was drafted by the Bruins ahead of Beaulieu last year. Habs would never have drafted him anyway -- he hits Hamilton should never have dropped out of the top five. He fell into the B's laps, that is what made that pick even more painful. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 4, 2012 12:04:38 GMT -5
I, for one, am not going to write off young Nathan as a result of this WJC. I am sure it has been quite the disappointing tournament for him. He played really well in the selection camp to secure his spot, and the competition was there on defense so it was far from a given. He held his own in the pre tournament games and played a lot alongside Mark Pysyk, with the giant Olesiak being the 7th defender. He was getting used on the first PP pairing, and was moving the puck nicely. And then the tournament started, and Coach Hay (and whichever assistant was handling the defense) shifted him into the 7 spot and only gave him some spot PP duty and occassional regular five on five ice time. I didn't see anything drastic that warranted the change.
Anyway, he can now go back to a stacked QMJHL team and look forward to a long season and hopefully another run at the Memorial Cup. He will get his entry level deal later this season and start in Hamilton this fall as he has a December birthday so he can start the season in the AHL as a 19 year old since he will turn 20 before 2012 is out. He will need to round out certain defensive parts of his game, but that skating ability and skill set are here to stay.
Yeah, he should never have quit on that play. I am sure he has replayed that over and over in his head since it happened. I also think this is a kid with more than enough character to grow from the experience.
He was used in a role very different than the one he played for his club team. So did most of this lineup. This was not exactly a constantly coherent team of 23 shift after shift, so I don't think Nathan stands out any more than some others of whom a lot was expected. They had more chances to make a difference. Nathan was held to very few.
And most importantly, Team Canada is still unbeaten in tournament play in Edmonton. How are they doing in Calgary? Grrrrr.
Hope they can rebound and win the bronze. That is one tough hockey game to play, but both teams are in the same boat.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 4, 2012 23:33:06 GMT -5
A few of us at work were talking about the team today ... most of us (I was the only Habs fan) felt Beaulieu had a decent tournament for the role he was playing. We also thought Dougie Hamilton was fighting the puck alot until he scored. I don't see either of them as head and shoulders above the other
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 5, 2012 1:03:28 GMT -5
Watching the World Jr.s..and the U17 Gold Medal game....almost every goal scorer "hot-dogged" it. Huge celebrations.
I know they're just kids and that every goal in a tournament means something....especially in the medal rounds....but these guys needed mustard, relish, and ketchup.
I don't recall it ever being this prevalent.
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Post by jkr on Jan 5, 2012 16:05:13 GMT -5
Habs would never have drafted him anyway -- he hits Hamilton should never have dropped out of the top five. He fell into the B's laps, that is what made that pick even more painful. I expected Winnipeg to take Hamilton. Think they surprised a lot of people by picking Schliefle (sp?). |
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Post by blny on Jan 5, 2012 17:51:12 GMT -5
Congrats on the bronze today boys. Not what you planned, but you and the fans showed up today and WON bronze.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 5, 2012 17:52:49 GMT -5
4-0 good guys in the Bronze medal game. Wait until you see the replay of a behind the back save by Visentin on the highlight reels tonight. It was nice.
Beaulieu got to play some hockey today as Harrington was out with injury. Gallagher and Bournival were all hustle every shift.
Very commanding effort and a nice way to finish off a good tournament (can we have a mulligan on those first two periods against the Russians?).
Congrats boys, now get back to work at your club teams!!
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 5, 2012 18:03:03 GMT -5
Only two countries get to hear and sing their national anthem for a medal today. We just heard ours!!
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Post by seventeen on Jan 5, 2012 22:43:22 GMT -5
The Swedes just beat the Russian horseshoe team 1-0 in OT. The shots on goal were something like 58-17 for the Swedes and it went all the way to OT. What else do you call that but luck of an incredible kind? Thank God. If this roachy Russian team had won, we'd never hear the end of it. But wouldn't a Sweden/Canada game have been a killer? Both very good teams.
How ya feeling now, Kuznetsov? Don't take the ice in the NHL against anyone who played on the Cdn Juniour team. You might not survive.
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