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Post by BadCompany on Jun 22, 2004 15:34:44 GMT -5
www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/columnist/woodlief/2004-06-22-woodlief_x.htmRank Name Ht./Wt. Shoots Birthdate 2003-04 Team Projected Round 1 Alexandre Ovechkin 6-1/200 R 17-Sep-85 Dynamo 1st round 2 Evgeni Malkin 6-3/186 L 31-Jul-86 Magnitogorsk 1st 3 Alexander Radulov 6-1/178 L 5-Jul-86 Dynamo 1st 4 Lauri Tukonen 6-2/196 R 1-Sep-86 Espoo 1st 5 Rostislav Olesz 6-2/191 L 10-Oct-85 Vitkovice 1st 6 Andrew Ladd 6-2/199 L 12-Dec-85 Calgary 1st 7 Drew Stafford 6-2/200 R 19-Oct-85 North Dakota Uni. 1st 8 Lauri Korpikoski 6-1/182 L 28-Jul-86 TPS Turku 1st 9 Wojtek Wolski 6-2/188 L 24-Feb-86 Brampton 1st 10 Dave Bolland 6-0/175 R 6-May-86 London 1st
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jun 22, 2004 16:11:09 GMT -5
Chipchura's absence from the list makes me doubt its credibility.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 24, 2004 2:47:17 GMT -5
That list if correct (highly dubious) means that Schremp, Valabik, Chipchura or Graham will be available at 18.
Imagine a line of Dagenais, Graham and Alexeev. One shooter, one passer and one skater. They would make a great forward line (in the NBA).
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Post by blny on Jun 24, 2004 6:49:08 GMT -5
That list if correct (highly dubious) means that Schremp, Valabik, Chipchura or Graham will be available at 18. Imagine a line of Dagenais, Graham and Alexeev. One shooter, one passer and one skater. They would make a great forward line (in the NBA). - Valabik is a defenceman so he wouldn't be on this list.
- Alexeev? Have I missed something?
- You'll have to forgive me if I don't make future plans with Dags in them.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2004 1:28:19 GMT -5
Chipchura's absence from the list makes me doubt its credibility. Chipchura scored around 45 points last year, nyet? Hardly a figure that has me drooling. If we didn't draft him, I'd probably not lose a minute of sleep. Signed. Pompous and devil may care ne'er do well. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jun 25, 2004 5:28:50 GMT -5
Chipchura scored around 45 points last year, nyet? Bah! Numbers.  Allow me to "point" you to this thread Also: The New York Islanders are lacking in tough, gritty players and Chipchura seems to fit the bill. Although having an off year offensively with the Raiders (15-33-48), Chipchura has a good scoring touch and isn't afraid to mix it up, tallying 118 PIM. Chipchura is said to be inconsistent, but he is the tough, gritty player full of character that the Isles need in the future.* If you are looking for a guy who does a lot of little things right, you've come to the right place.
Kyle Chipchura wins faceoffs, checks well, kills penalties and has good hockey sense. His downside? He isn't expected to be a big scorer at the next level.
"I don't think he has that kind of finish around the net," said a scout.
Chipchura helped himself at the world under-18 tournament by being one of Canada's top players. Earlier this season, Chipchura was in the running to be picked in the top 10, but disappeared in the eyes of some scouts.
"He was really good in the first half and then he slipped," said a scout. "Then he was good late to save his year."
Chipchura is pegged to be a third-line NHL player who will get the job done.
"He can check well and kill penalties," said another scout. "He has some offensive upside, but he'll have to work on it."
Skating isn't a problem and scouts like his hockey sense and the fact he goes hard.
The Hockey News says: Two-way forward * Darryl Sutter is high on players who exhibit grit, character, size and scoring potential. A mobile center, Chipchura is a blazing fast skater who excels at sharing the puck at full speed. He uses his size well and sticks his nose into traffic.* BOB MCKENZIE SAYS: A year ago, he was forecast to be a top 10 pick but when he didn’t put up big numbers this year, the rating dropped. He’s still a solid, safe first round pick.* Was the top-rated Northern American skater eligible for the 2004 draft in Central Scouting's mid-season rankings, but slipped to No. 4 (behind Ladd, Barker and Picard) in the final rankings. Has good size, sound two-way ability and the nastiness to get under an opponent's skin. However, he didn't put up the offensive numbers expected of him in 2003-04. May be limited to a third-line or checking-line center role in the NHL. Should play at well over 200 pounds in the pro ranks. Is one of the safest projected picks of the first round and a surefire NHLer. * Not the smoothest skater but has sufficient speed once he gets going. ... Is used in all types of faceoff situations. ... Good passer, who can also go at opponents to the inside or strongly move around them to the outside. ... Has good defensive skills which make him a valuable asset during the penalty kill. ... His playmaking abilities also help on power play. ... Like Keith Primeau, will finish checks strongly and stand up physically for teammates. * I tells ya, the kid sounds like a dead-ringer proto-Gainey-type player to me. But hey, we'll see if he's even available when it comes our turn. Cousin!!! |
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Post by blny on Jun 25, 2004 6:25:57 GMT -5
Haven't we been guilty of drafting players with a ceiling of the third line in the past? All those quotes seem to say the same thing. Kyle is fast, strong, and gritty, but he lacks finish for the next level. That sounds like Bulis to me. Should we be looking at third line centres in the first round?
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Post by rhabdo on Jun 25, 2004 6:59:15 GMT -5
Imagine, numbers-fondlers intruding upon the fetishes of other voluptuaries! No one's fantasies are as seductive as theirs, of course. Especially interesting is their preferred symbolism of goal openings. Naughty boys!  |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2004 20:55:01 GMT -5
So it seems he's a low scoring safe pick. We have enough Bulis' (much as I like Jan). |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 29, 2004 11:46:34 GMT -5
So it seems he's a low scoring safe pick. We have enough Bulis' (much as I like Jan). If Schremp plays like one of the three stooges, Chips is a better pick. If Robbie uses his talent like Alexander Daigle, Robbie was a bad pick. If Schremp uses his skills like Lafleur we will regret Chipchura and his 8 goals a year. If Chips is another Gainey, I don't need him to score to be a good pick. Lots of if's guessing about who will be the 18th best player in four years. Picking 18th is a crapshoot, but Gainey has seen a lot of 18 year old players over the years. In Bob we trust. We won't get a Malkin picking 18th. The importance of the draft is overblown in terms of it's impact on the teams fortunes. Very few teams consist entirely of players from within the organization. Most of the top teams spent a few years in the cellar and stocked up on good picks, not 18th best. That is not an acceptable route for the hab's. Chipchura adds size and grit, but his scoring record as a Jr. trails our stable of Locke, Urquhart and the Rockettes. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jun 29, 2004 11:48:53 GMT -5
Chipchura adds size and grit, but his scoring record as a Jr. trails our stable of Locke, Urquhart and the Rockettes. While Mr Chips isn't the reincarnation of the Rocket, he certainly doesn't sound like a Rockette. |
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Post by blaise on Jun 29, 2004 16:05:36 GMT -5
Chipchura was a safe, solid pick. Nothing more, nothing less. In a few years the Centre Bell crowd will accept him as one of their own. They won't Huet (well, huer) him off the ice.
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Post by mic on Jun 29, 2004 17:09:54 GMT -5
At least, fans won't be deceived if he doesn't become a big scoring center. Unlike what could happen to Kastsitsyn who seems to be seen as the next Lafleur by some. Funny how expectations could influence a career (Bonk who ?)
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