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Post by blny on Mar 21, 2012 12:36:56 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 21, 2012 13:26:54 GMT -5
Here the NFL is implementing rules to lessen the impact injuries have on players in the game and they uncover something like this.
Talk about undermining the integrity of the game. Wow!
Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Mar 21, 2012 13:52:11 GMT -5
I expected the fines & the loss of draft picks but suspending Payton - WOW!
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Post by blny on Mar 21, 2012 15:14:07 GMT -5
I firmly believe he came down as hard as he did because of that underminding of the goal of protecting players more. Add in the covert nature of it, and you have the precident set today.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 21, 2012 16:53:16 GMT -5
I firmly believe he came down as hard as he did because of that underminding of the goal of protecting players more. Add in the covert nature of it, and you have the precident set today. For sure. You have wonder just how many other teams out there are/were employing the same game plan. Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Mar 21, 2012 17:36:56 GMT -5
I firmly believe he came down as hard as he did because of that underminding of the goal of protecting players more. Add in the covert nature of it, and you have the precident set today. For sure. You have wonder just how many other teams out there are/were employing the same game plan. Cheers. Wouldn't surprise me at all. I'm sure guys in the past like Buddy Ryan encouraged it. Goodell is a new breed though. Smart, tough, and not willing to pander to owners. We need a guy like that in the league office, and we need one in Montreal. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 21, 2012 17:38:58 GMT -5
Even Gregg Williams, who moved to the Rams' organization, got suspended for his part in it.
Maybe that info's in the article....but I just saw it on TV.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 21, 2012 18:02:25 GMT -5
Toughest punishment in NFL history.
BOOM!
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Post by blny on Mar 21, 2012 20:01:33 GMT -5
Even Gregg Williams, who moved to the Rams' organization, got suspended for his part in it. Maybe that info's in the article....but I just saw it on TV. Yes, he got hit too. Bring it. Don't mess with the "God" Goodell lol. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 22, 2012 7:18:35 GMT -5
Toughest punishment in NFL history. BOOM! I heard this moring that Payton's salary is 7 million. That's a heck of a fine. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Mar 22, 2012 7:39:22 GMT -5
Reinforces the adage, do what you want. Just don't get caught.
It's been going on for years. I've told players to go after guys on the other team that needed a talking to.
Did it myself a coupla times but that was a long time ago.
Wonder what Fergy told Clarke about Kharlamov?
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Post by blny on Mar 22, 2012 9:16:17 GMT -5
It's one thing to target a player, but his players were getting bonuses for it. So it's not just a coaching 'philosophy'. This was a team thing. Management on down the line. Take a star out at the knees and you get X. Head, and you get Y. It's wrong.
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Post by franko on Mar 22, 2012 9:19:47 GMT -5
dunno, BLNY. wouldn't be surprised to hear it happens elsewhere and almost everywhere. I guess this was too "official". not saying it is right just that it is.
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Post by blny on Mar 22, 2012 10:52:57 GMT -5
Don't disagree on either count franko. I'm sure it does go on. Still doesn't make it right. I'd be interested to hear what former Patriot Rodney Harrison has to say. He's an analyst for NBC now. He had a rep as one of the dirtiest DB's in the game. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was part of something similar.
It's one thing to identify people on other teams that you need to focus your game plan on.
It's one thing to go after a guy who's done something to you or a teammate.
Specifically targeting people for the purposes of intent to injure, and providing monetary reward for it is wrong. Simple as that.
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Post by franko on Mar 22, 2012 11:21:42 GMT -5
Specifically targeting people for the purposes of intent to injure, and providing monetary reward for it is wrong. Simple as that. absolutely no disagreement there |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 24, 2012 12:20:20 GMT -5
Even Gregg Williams, who moved to the Rams' organization, got suspended for his part in it. Maybe that info's in the article....but I just saw it on TV. Looks like Greg Williams may get hit alot harder for his role in this. Reports are now surfacing that when he was with the Redskins, Greg Williams offered $15,000 to anyone who took out Vikings QB Brad Johnson. Johnson and Redskins owner Dan Synder had a bit of bad blood between each other. The report also states that Greg Blache, the Redskins defensive coordinate, told players if they were fined it would be taken care of .... ... it doesn't come out and say it, but if you read between the lines, it appears to me that in this instance, and quite possibly in others, that there is some owner involvement. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 24, 2012 13:05:27 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if that mentality is league-wide.
IMO, it would be naive to think it doesn't happen in the NHL.
Witness the Bruins running rampant.
And were members of the Canucks offered incentive$ to get Steve Moore? There certainly was a froth worked up.
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