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Post by HabbaDasher on Apr 5, 2005 16:12:16 GMT -5
Thanks, BC.
How is Locke 4th on the team in scoring playing on the 4th line?
Do they put him on the powerplay a lot?
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Post by franko on Apr 5, 2005 17:21:25 GMT -5
Thanks, BC. How is Locke 4th on the team in scoring playing on the 4th line? Do they put him on the powerplay a lot? A good front half of the season . . . though I noted that he had an assist last game so he isn't being totally shut out. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 5, 2005 18:52:06 GMT -5
Thanks, BC. How is Locke 4th on the team in scoring playing on the 4th line? Do they put him on the powerplay a lot? Log jam at centre is the big reason. Begin has been playing so well since his arrival and has some real good chemistry with Ward and Kosty, so he gets top 6 icetime. Pleky and his line of Higgins and Miettinen are a dead lock for top 6 icetime as well. Morgan is a better faceoff specialist and good checker, so he "theoretically" has been getting third line ice time and responsibilities. Not to mention that having Higgins and Ott gives the team "converted centres" that sometimes get double shifted in key positions. Locke does get PP time as part of the second PP unit, so he does get some sugar-time. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 5, 2005 21:49:55 GMT -5
Manitoba Moose just defeated the Syracuse Crunch 3-1 tonight to help our cause. Syracuse just used up one of those "games in hand" to no avail. Magic number is now 9 (2 pts for Dogs win, 2 pts for Crunch loss, 1 pt for tie, etc.).
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Apr 18, 2005 15:38:54 GMT -5
Top Dogs
Games played:
Plekanec and Jancevski 80, Locke and Daley 78, Ward 77.
Goals:
Plekanec 29, Higgins 28, Ward 20, Ott 18, Locke 16.
Assists:
Plekanec 35, Ward 34, Locke and Daley 27, Higgins and Morgan 23.
Points:
Plekanec 64, Ward 54, Higgins 51, Locke 43, Ott 39.
+/- (good):
Côté +14, Miettenen +11, Archer +10, Higgins +9, Locke and Jancevski +8.
+/- (bad and ugly):
Ferland -7, Ivanans -6, Carpentier, Plante, Morgan and Daley -4.
Power play goals:
Plekanec 11, Ward 9, Higgins and Hainsey 8, Milroy 5.
Short handed goals:
Higgins 4, Bégin and Morgan 2, Kostitsyn, Ward and Plekanec 1.
Game winning goals:
Plekanec 7, Higgins 6, Milroy 4, Ott and Hainsey 3.
Shots on goal:
Plekanec 254, Higgins 248, Ward 202, Ott 166, Hainsey and Daley 162.
Shooting %:
Locke 14.7, Milroy 14.2, Kostitsyn 12.2, Plekanec 11.4, Higgins 11.3.
Danis - 28-17-6, 5 SO, 2.34, .924
Ellis - 10-19-0, 1 SO, 2.77, .908
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MOLSON CUP THREE STARS – LEADERS
(1st place vote – 5pts, 2nd place vote – 3 pts, 3rd place vote – 1pt)
Player Points
1. Yann Danis 62
2. Chris Higgins 57
3. Tomas Plekanec 43
4. Jason Ward 27
5. Corey Locke 24
5. Dan Ellis 24
7. Antti Miettinen 13
8. Steve Begin 12
8. Ron Hainsey 12
10. Marc-Andre Thinel 10
11. Steve Ott 9
11. Duncan Milroy 9
11. Trevor Daley 9
14. James Sanford 8
14. Gavin Morgan 8
16. Andrei Kostitsyn 7
17. Raitis Ivanans 6
18. Philippe Plante 5
19. Michael Lambert 1
HOMETOWN HERO OF THE GAME-LEADERS
(Hardest Working Bulldogs Player on Home Ice)
Player Points
1. Steve Ott 80
2. Chris Higgins 60
3. Tomas Plekanec 50
4. Trevor Daley 40
4. Jason Ward 40
6. Dan Jancevski 20
6. Gavin Morgan 20
6. Marc-Andre Thinel 20
9. Andrei Kostitsyn 10
9. Dan Ellis 10
9. Yann Danis 10
9. Raitis Ivanans 10
9. James Sanford 10
9. Mike Komisarek 10
9. Steve Begin 10
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- For the second consecutive year, Tomas Plekanec finished the regular season as the Hamilton Bulldogs’ leading scorer. In 80 games this season, Plekanec had 64 points (29g, 35a) and in 2003-04, Plekanec collected 66 points (74gp, 23g, 43a). Over the course of the two seasons, Plekanec has a plus/minus rating of +25 with 16 game-winning goals.
- In his rookie season, goaltender Yann Danis set the Bulldogs all-time record with 28 wins in a single season and tied former Bulldog Eric Heffler for another all-time franchise single season record with five shutouts.
- Jean-Philippe Cote led the Bulldogs for the second year in a row in plus/minus, posting a +14 rating this year and a +27 rating last season. Cote is now the all-time franchise leader with a +41 rating.
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HAMILTON BULLDOGS INDIVIDUAL PLAYER AWARDS:
The Hamilton Spectator Most Valuable Player Award:
*As voted by the Hamilton Bulldogs players
Winner: Chris Higgins
The Tim Horton's Top Defenceman Award:
*As voted on by the local media
Winner: Dan Jancevski
The Hamilton Bulldogs Fans' Choice Award:
* As voted on by The Growl - the Hamilton Bulldogs' Booster Club
Winner: Corey Locke
The Hamilton Entertainment and Convention Facilities Inc. (H.E.C.F.I.) Community Leadership Award:
*As voted on by the staff of the Hamilton Bulldogs Hockey Club
Winner: Duncan Milroy
The Swiss Chalet Top Rookie Award:
*As voted on by the Hamilton Bulldogs Radio Broadcast Team
Winner: Yann Danis
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Post by arctic on May 24, 2005 11:11:17 GMT -5
Why do the Canadiens have their farm team in Ontario? It's not as though Hamilton has big attendances. Why couldn't they play in Montreal? The Flyers have their farm team right next door to them in Philadelphia. Right now, with the lockout, the Bulldogs could do pretty well at the Bell Centre. Of course they wouldn't be called the Bulldogs. Maybe the Voyageurs again?
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 24, 2005 16:49:10 GMT -5
Why do the Canadiens have their farm team in Ontario? It's not as though Hamilton has big attendances. Why couldn't they play in Montreal? The Flyers have their farm team right next door to them in Philadelphia. Right now, with the lockout, the Bulldogs could do pretty well at the Bell Centre. Of course they wouldn't be called the Bulldogs. Maybe the Voyageurs again? I think they would be much more successful in Montreal too. It would be great to see Perez, Higgins, Locke et al developing. It would be great to see games from close to the rink. It would be great to see games for half the price. It would be great to see hockey played in Montreal. It's not like the Keg is sold out 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 24, 2005 22:47:16 GMT -5
I think they would be much more successful in Montreal too. It would be great to see Perez, Higgins, Locke et al developing. It would be great to see games from close to the rink. It would be great to see games for half the price. It would be great to see hockey played in Montreal. It's not like the Keg is sold out 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. It's the Phone Booth now, thanks to $85M good reasons to forget the taps that have run dry. As for the Baby Habs in Montreal, I am quite glad that the team is in another market, albeit a tough one in the heart of Leaf Country. Playing in the same arena would have some drawbacks, not the least of which is scheduling weekend games. Hamilton seem to play every Saturday, and with the Habs having a monopoly on Saturday night games, they either have to be on the road or else suffer a matinee, which isn't great for AHL teams that tend a big chunk of their games on the weekends. Not impossible, but that is what Edmonton is proposing for its two teams in Rexall next season, so I will wait and see how that turns out. Also, Montreal is a great supporter of the Habs, but other hockey just hasn't stuck there for one reason or another. Dabbling in the Q and other leagues at times, but not a mainstay of minor pro or junior hockey by any means. By comparison, the MTA market will have the Leafs, Marlies and four Major Junior teams (St Mikes, Mississauga, Oshawa and Brampton), junior A teams, etc. Ottawa even has the 67's and Gatineau/Hull Olympique in addition to their team out in the farmer's field in Kanata, all with a smaller market than Montreal. Then, there is the unique element that gathers new fans that aren't just Habs fans. I am sure Hamilton has its share of Bulldog fans who weren't necessarily Habs fans (and some may still not be). It also has its own character, taking on a bit of the community in which is was based. I am sure that Quebec, Fredericton, Sherbrooke, and Halifax all added something special to that relationship in the past. That would be lost if both teams were based in the same city. I also hope that this current relationship with Hamilton grows and stays around for a while, as it is a decent market and a nice arena in which to play as a farm team. Heck, it is only a 40 minute drive to Pearson, and then any kid can make the plane to wherever the Habs need them if a call up is in order. All this to say, my vote is still a community in Canada outside of Montreal, with a hope that it is Hamilton for many years to come. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 25, 2005 0:22:32 GMT -5
I remember the Forum being full for the Jr. Canadiens games, but the fans didn't go to see Houle, Tardiff and Perrault, they went to see Globensky beat the crap out of Tony Featherstone. The noise was incredible. Everyone wanted to be there.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on May 25, 2005 4:57:29 GMT -5
Times change.
Montreal presents divers options for one's entertainment dollar. It is not a typical North American market when it comes to professional sports—Sports Illustrated chose it as one of the worst sports towns—and that's a good thing. Even the Habs' attendance takes a dive if the on-ice product is lousy. Montrealers have other things to do rather than sniff jockstraps. C'est la vie.
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Post by arctic on May 25, 2005 14:51:24 GMT -5
NWTHabsFan gives some interesting reasons and so does M. Beaux-Eaux but I am not yet convinced. If Hamilton is such a good location for an AHL team then why is its average attendance so low? Why didn't more people drive from Montreal to Hamilton to see Kostitsyn, Plekanec, Higgins, and even familiar faces such as Ward, Begin, and Komisarek during a total shutdown of the NHL? So if Montreal is a single sport city why would its hockey fans not want to see players who are bound to play for the Canadiens? I bet the Bulldogs would have drawn 8 or 10,000 to the Bell Centre last season. How could they have missed unless it was the absence of well known local names on the team? I'm not a native so I can't explain it myself.
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Post by Doc Holliday on May 25, 2005 21:05:56 GMT -5
Montreal is NOT a single sport city.
They draw major attendance for the Alouettes and in the good days of the Expos you had many nights of over 30 thousands souls in the BigO. Senior pro hockey is very much alive in Verdun and has been for some time and we've had pro soccer for over a decade. Expos were killed by bad management and stupid ownership the same way the HABS could have been killed by Houle and Corey. As Mr B. said, Montreal has alot of competition for the entertainment dollar. If you're gonna pull a crappy show in a crappy setup, than you're dead and being the Baby HABS wouldn't change that.
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Post by arctic on May 26, 2005 10:39:27 GMT -5
Montreal is NOT a single sport city. They draw major attendance for the Alouettes and in the good days of the Expos you had many nights of over 30 thousands souls in the BigO. Senior pro hockey is very much alive in Verdun and has been for some time and we've had pro soccer for over a decade. Expos were killed by bad management and stupid ownership the same way the HABS could have been killed by Houle and Corey. As Mr B. said, Montreal has alot of competition for the entertainment dollar. If you're gonna pull a crappy show in a crappy setup, than you're dead and being the Baby HABS wouldn't change that. Maybe you're right. Maybe Montreal isn't a single sport city, just a fickle sports city. I don't live there, and I was never interested in the Expos (what are they called now?), so I'm not the best judge. But Montreal isn't the only city with a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar. I'm skeptical that the fan who goes to sporting events also goes with the same enthusiasm to plays and rock concerts and operas, so that part of Mr. B's argument needs a little bolstering before I can buy in. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on May 26, 2005 11:53:29 GMT -5
Maybe you're right. Maybe Montreal isn't a single sport city, just a fickle sports city. I don't live there, and I was never interested in the Expos (what are they called now?), so I'm not the best judge. But Montreal isn't the only city with a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar. I'm skeptical that the fan who goes to sporting events also goes with the same enthusiasm to plays and rock concerts and operas, so that part of Mr. B's argument needs a little bolstering before I can buy in. I think Montrealers are no more fickle than most. If you're not going to treat your client (public) right, they will leave. That's not being fickle. Many sport franchise think they can feed the public a crappy team with the excuse that they are rebuilding or that they can't compete with bigger payroll team. When you go see a movie or a rock concert or treat yourself to a fine restaurant dinner, you don't want to be told that the product you will get is inferior because blablabla.... You want to get your money's worth and if you avoid an establishment or an activity that doesn't give you that, you're not fickle, you're intelligent. Same should apply to sports franchises. Montreal could support a farm team but only if the team is good, exciting and the setup around it is dynamic and pleasant. |
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Post by arctic on May 26, 2005 12:06:00 GMT -5
Maybe you're right. Maybe Montreal isn't a single sport city, just a fickle sports city. I don't live there, and I was never interested in the Expos (what are they called now?), so I'm not the best judge. But Montreal isn't the only city with a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar. I'm skeptical that the fan who goes to sporting events also goes with the same enthusiasm to plays and rock concerts and operas, so that part of Mr. B's argument needs a little bolstering before I can buy in. I think Montrealers are no more fickle than most. If you're not going to treat your client (public) right, they will leave. That's not being fickle. Many sport franchise think they can feed the public a crappy team with the excuse that they are rebuilding or that they can't compete with bigger payroll team. When you go see a movie or a rock concert or treat yourself to a fine restaurant dinner, you don't want to be told that the product you will get is inferior because blablabla.... You want to get your money's worth and if you avoid an establishment or an activity that doesn't give you that, you're not fickle, you're intelligent. Same should apply to sports franchises. Montreal could support a farm team but only if the team is good, exciting and the setup around it is dynamic and pleasant. Okay, let's suppose the farm team was more interesting to watch than the Habs. What then? The Habs haven't exactly been the Flying Frenchmen recently, although the Koivu line had the fans out of their seats in the last Boston series. |
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Post by Rimmer on Jun 28, 2005 3:10:15 GMT -5
I just read this on another board:
"Diminutive winger Marc Andre Thinel has sign a contract to play with
Rouen HE of the French elite hockey league. This marks the end of the 24 year old Association with the Habs. He has played 2 years with the Hamilton Bulldogs of AHL.
R.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 28, 2005 12:28:54 GMT -5
I just read this on another board: "Diminutive winger Marc Andre Thinel has sign a contract to play with
Rouen HE of the French elite hockey league. This marks the end of the 24 year old Association with the Habs. He has played 2 years with the Hamilton Bulldogs of AHL.R. Another QMJHL scoring sensation who couldn't grow into a scorer against better competition. I hope that Locke doesn't fall into that category. I liked the guy and hoped he would continue to develop, but at some point you have to tell the Thinel and Chouinards of the world, "Thanks for coming out and good luck with your career." |
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