Chipchura 2004/05 WHL point totals

[blaise]

Presumably Chipchura will go to the dogs eventually--the Bulldogs.

Anyway, I don't think he's the type who will go on really prolonged scoring streaks, like a Gretzky or Lemieux or perhaps Crosby.

[NWTHabsFan]

Blaise said:

Presumably Chipchura will go to the dogs eventually--the Bulldogs.

The wait will be longer than we likely would all like. Under the previous rules, a player drafted out of the CHL could only play in the AHL once he turned 20. For Chip, that does not happen until 19/2/06. That means that opponents in the WHL get to look forward to playing against him for two more seasons (04-05 and 05-06). Chip could be quite a dominant junior player by that point. Maybe not leading the WHL in scoring, but in his all-round play and work ethic (you know, the Gainey factors).

[mnscott]

I think Chipchura will prove to be atleast as strong of a player as Higgins, and no one really complained a lot when we drafted him (well atleast not people I know). I think aft
er Kostitsyn we all got spoiled with drafting someone with this insane potential. With Chipchura you have a big, solid center with strong offensive potential that could very well become a top shut down center in the league that can still put up 20 goals and 50 points. He may never become more than a decent 3rd liner, but the potential to be more is there, and at 18th in a weak draft you sure can't ask for a lot more. I think he's gonna tear it up all year in the dub, he'll have 85 points by the time things are said and done. I compare Chipchura to Getzlaf of the year before, not a lot of Habs fans wanted Getzlaf due to his weak production, but after the year he had last year I don't think anyone would be upset to have grabbed him if Kostitsyn wasn't on the table at 10th.

[blaise]

mnscott said:

I think Chipchura will prove to be atleast as strong of a player as Higgins, and no one really complained a lot when we drafted him (well atleast not people I know). I think aft
er Kostitsyn we all got spoiled with drafting someone with this insane potential. With Chipchura you have a big, solid center with strong offensive potential that could very well become a top shut down center in the league that can still put up 20 goals and 50 points. He may never become more than a decent 3rd liner, but the potential to be more is there, and at 18th in a weak draft you sure can't ask for a lot more. I think he's gonna tear it up all year in the dub, he'll have 85 points by the time things are said and done. I compare Chipchura to Getzlaf of the year before, not a lot of Habs fans wanted Getzlaf due to his weak production, but after the year he had last year I don't think anyone would be upset to have grabbed him if Kostitsyn wasn't on the table at 10th.

Hey, I'm not complaining about the draft of Chipchura. He was a very good pickup at #18. He shouldn't be compared with Higgins because they're different types of players, and in time both will boost the Habs. My defense of Higgins is in response to Skilly's putdown. I'm heartened by all the nice things Jarvis has said about Higgins. IMO Higgins will become the premier PK forward on the Habs as well as adding to the offense. He's already a much better all-around player than Dagenais, who, in spite of his shot, can be a liability.

[Habs_fan_in_LA]

Blaise said:

Hey, I'm not complaining about the draft of Chipchura. He was a very good pickup at #18. He shouldn't be compared with Higgins because they're different types of players, and in time both will boost the Habs. My defense of Higgins is in response to Skilly's putdown. I'm heartened by all the nice things Jarvis has said about Higgins. IMO Higgins will become the premier PK forward on the Habs as well as adding to the offense. He's already a much better all-around player than Dagenais, who, in spite of his shot, can be a liability.

No matter what the subject of the post, it seems fashionable to take a potshot at Dagenais. Talk about Chipchura and Higgins, insert a shot at Dags.
I'm surprised Kerry didn't say that under Bushes administration we rushed to war without exploring the options for peace and added Dagenais to the Hab's roster.
Dags has a great shot, he produces points, he's a big body on an otherwise very small team and he works well with Ribeiro *(another whipping boy despite leading the team in scoring). Dags is not Ice Capades material and never will be, but the Hab's are not in the Ice Follies. Dagenais is young and improving rapidly. Give him a chance before we give up on him. He's accomplished much more in his short career than Hossa or Chouinard ever did and he gets dumped on.

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

Garon.

[blaise]

Habs_fan_in_LA said:

No matter what the subject of the post, it seems fashionable to take a potshot at Dagenais. Talk about Chipchura and Higgins, insert a shot at Dags.
I'm surprised Kerry didn't say that under Bushes administration we rushed to war without exploring the options for peace and added Dagenais to the Hab's roster.
Dags has a great shot, he produces points, he's a big body on an otherwise very small team and he works well with Ribeiro *(another whipping boy despite leading the team in scoring). Dags is not Ice Capades material and never will be, but the Hab's are not in the Ice Follies. Dagenais is young and improving rapidly. Give him a chance before we give up on him. He's accomplished much more in his short career than Hossa or Chouinard ever did and he gets dumped on.

You simply must bring in Bush and Kerry, mustn't you. You'll have a lot to whimper about when the asswipe Bush is flushed in a few weeks.

Dagenais is 26 and will be 27 next season (if there is one), hardly a rookie's age. His big body never asserted itself physically, so he might as well have been Audette (prior to Audette's injury).

[blaise]

M. said:

Garon.

Won't Garon be 28 in the middle of his first season with the Kings? Fortunately for him, goaltenders often have extended careers. He could be the next Kelly Hrudey in LA.

[seventeen]

Blaise said:

You simply must bring in Bush and Kerry, mustn't you. You'll have a lot to whimper about when the asswipe Bush is flushed in a few weeks.

Not so sure, Blaise. One must never underestimate the depths to which the American voter will plumb. I guess they just like having a turniphead as their leader. I have a very good friend who's an American emigree and he throws up at the thought of Bush in charge. But he is an emigree, so he's done something about it.

[blaise]

seventeen said:

Not so sure, Blaise. One must never underestimate the depths to which the American voter will plumb. I guess they just like having a turniphead as their leader. I have a very good friend who's an American emigree and he throws up at the thought of Bush in charge. But he is an emigree, so he's done something about it.

Ironically, Habs Fan in LA is a Canadian emigré who's apparently thrilled at the prospect of being led by a turniphead. Fortunately, his vote for Bush will be swamped by Californians who perceive Bush not as an ordinary turniphead, mind you, but as a lying turniphead with an unsavory agenda championed by phony television evangelists and the Texas energy Mafia. Now who would imagine that a turnip has a nervous system, which would seem to be a prerequisite for being able to lie? After all, I'm sure you've heard the saying, "You can't get blood out of a turnip."

I would consider Bush as a lepton, a member of the class of lightweight subatomic particles, as opposed to Kerry, a baryon. I can visualize Bush as an electron whirling mindlessly around a nucleus.

I snicker at the thought that the Houston Astros made the National League playoffs while the Texas Rangers, in which Bush had a financial interest, didn't. To rub it in, the two remaining American League contenders represent New York and Massachusetts, his least favorite states.

[seventeen]

Blaise said:

I snicker at the thought that the Houston Astros made the National League playoffs while the Texas Rangers, in which Bush had a financial interest, didn't. To rub it in, the two remaining American League contenders represent New York and Massachusetts, his least favorite states.

Those teams have a common denominator with Bush though, since both have bought, not earned, whatever success they've enjoyed.

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

Ribeiro.

[Habit]

Oops... sorry... I thought this was the Chipchura thread.

[blaise]

seventeen said:

Those teams have a common denominator with Bush though, since both have bought, not earned, whatever success they've enjoyed.

The Texas Rangers under Tom Hicks (Dallas Stars owner as well as well as Bush backer) bought and bought and bought without anything to show for it. Alex Rodriguez contract: $252M over 10 years. Makes pikers out of Jagr and Yashin.

[HabbaDasher]

I keep expecting someone to mention Kovalev....damn, I just did...

[blaise]

habit said:

Oops... sorry... I thought this was the Chipchura thread.

OK, we'll get back to it and block further references to Bush, Garon, and Ribeiro. ;D

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

Dagenais.

[Habs_fan_in_LA]

Blaise said:

You simply must bring in Bush and Kerry, mustn't you. You'll have a lot to whimper about when the asswipe Bush is flushed in a few weeks.

Dagenais is 26 and will be 27 next season (if there is one), hardly a rookie's age. His big body never asserted itself physically, so he might as well have been Audette (prior to Audette's injury).

In five short seasons he will be a free agent and 31. Right now he is just starting his NHL Career, and he has improved against NHL level competition.
Chipchura is a stud and in no way does this detract from Chips size, character and WHL production.

[blaise]

M. said:

Dagenais.

I guess we're dealing with a leaky condom. Impurities keep getting through.

[Skilly]

Blaise said:

I would consider Bush as a lepton, a member of the class of lightweight subatomic particles, as opposed to Kerry, a baryon. I can visualize Bush as an electron whirling mindlessly around a nucleus.

I preambled my Pavlov's comment by stating it was the "reader's digest" (ie simplified) version. But now how can I resist when you use have grossly simplified an engineering analogy.

Electrons do not whirl around the nucleus mindlessly. The actually are in a structured levels or bands called Valence levels. It is the electrons position in these bands that determine whether a material is a conductor, insulator or semi conductor. (The electrons serve many more purposes but to discuss would be to digress and too long for this forum).

"Every material can be classified as either a conductor, an insulator, or a semi-conductor. These three distinct classes of material arise from a difference in the structure of the allowed electron energy levels. In particular, every material possesses both a valence and a conduction band for electrons, and the energy difference between these two bands will determine how easily an electric current will pass through the material.

As the name implies, the valence band contains the valence electrons of a substance. At absolute zero, all of the electrons in a substance would be contained in the valence band. However, if the substance is at a higher temperature, thermal energy can excite electrons out of the valence level and into an excited energy level. The conduction band is composed of the excited energy states of a substance, and it contains electrons that have been thermally or otherwise excited from the valence band. The electrons in the conduction band are able to freely move about the substance and conduct electricity if an external electric field is applied.

Due to the lattice spacing of the atoms and other relevant factors, there is an energy gap between the highest- energy electron valence level and the lowest-energy conduction level. The width of this gap is dependent on the temperature and the pressure of the material and determines whether a material will be a conductor, insulator or semi- conductor."TEXT

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

Quintal.

[blaise]

Skilly said:

I preambled my Pavlov's comment by stating it was the "reader's digest" (ie simplified) version. But now how can I resist when you use have grossly simplified an engineering analogy.

Electrons do not whirl around the nucleus mindlessly. The actually are in a structured levels or bands called Valence levels. It is the electrons position in these bands that determine whether a material is a conductor, insulator or semi conductor. (The electrons serve many more purposes but to discuss would be to digress and too long for this forum).

"Every material can be classified as either a conductor, an insulator, or a semi-conductor. These three distinct classes of material arise from a difference in the structure of the allowed electron energy levels. In particular, every material possesses both a valence and a conduction band for electrons, and the energy difference between these two bands will determine how easily an electric current will pass through the material.

As the name implies, the valence band contains the valence electrons of a substance. At absolute zero, all of the electrons in a substance would be contained in the valence band. However, if the substance is at a higher temperature, thermal energy can excite electrons out of the valence level and into an excited energy level. The conduction band is composed of the excited energy states of a substance, and it contains electrons that have been thermally or otherwise excited from the valence band. The electrons in the conduction band are able to freely move about the substance and conduct electricity if an external electric field is applied.

Due to the lattice spacing of the atoms and other relevant factors, there is an energy gap between the highest- energy electron valence level and the lowest-energy conduction level. The width of this gap is dependent on the temperature and the pressure of the material and determines whether a material will be a conductor, insulator or semi- conductor."TEXT

I have been familiar with quantum states (and excited atoms, as in lasers) for a very long time, Skilly, but I thought that the image of Bush whirling mindlessly in a fixed orbit (the long-obsolete 19th and early 20th century concept of atomic structure) was more amusing. (I would love Bush to interact with a positron, resulting in mutual annihilation and the release of energy). It may interest you to know that I once enjoyed a daylong private interview (including lunch) with Werner Heisenberg at the Max Planck Institute for Physics and Astrophysics on my first visit to Munich (the institute has since been renamed and relocated). He autographed one of his books for me (which I purchased for the occasion and still have) and gave me a copy of one of his manuscripts, which I donated to a university library. I distinctly remember Heisenberg's tie pin, which at first glance resembled a lowercase h but on closer inspection turned out to be the symbol for the Planck constant. I am not a physicist but was broadly educated in the sciences before concentrating on just one.

[blaise]

M. said:

Quintal.

I wish the Habs had a young Quintal (in addition to Komisarek).

[Habs_fan_in_LA]

Skilly said:

"Every material can be classified as either a conductor, an insulator, or a semi-conductor. These three distinct classes of material arise from a difference in the structure of the allowed electron energy levels. In particular, every material possesses both a valence and a conduction band for electrons, and the energy difference between these two bands will determine how easily an electric current will pass through the material.

."TEXT

Aren't all materials conductors, semi-conductors and insulators? They just have diffenent degrees of conductivity.

Example.

Doug Harvey, insulator, forwards seldom get past him.
Terry Harper, semiconductor, forwards have difficulty getting past him.
Brisebois, conductors, forwards often flow past.
Traverse, superconductor.

Drop the damn puck! Hockey is overdue and we're going nuts!

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

Chipchura?

Raider hockey on Internet radio: www.900ckbi.com/

Listen to the progress of our "man amongst boys".

[seventeen]

For those of us who have less time.....

A goal and an assist.

www.whl.ca/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1000197

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

10 games, 5-8-13, +4. Tied for third among WHL scorers, 3 points behind the leader. Has been involved in 46.4% of Prince Albert's scoring (13/28).

72 game projections: 36-58-94, +29.

[Habit]

M. said:

Dagenais.

M. said:

Quintal.

It's pronounced Chipchura.

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

habit said:

It's pronounced Chipchura.

Mmm...Chimchurri!

[Skilly]

Blaise said:

It may interest you to know that I once enjoyed a daylong private interview (including lunch) with Werner Heisenberg at the Max Planck Institute for Physics and Astrophysics on my first visit to Munich (the institute has since been renamed and relocated). .

I think I may have been curt with him. Let him know how many nights I had to stay awake studying his freaking uncertainty priciples. They are of course, common sense, when you think about it (and it is amazing that no one else thought of it earlier), but to a young hung over student, the priciples become jumbled in a hurry.