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Post by sergejean on Jul 5, 2013 14:33:34 GMT -5
Bobby Ryan traded to Ottawa for Silverberg / Noesen / 1st rounder
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Post by CentreHice on Jul 5, 2013 14:48:05 GMT -5
Well, we just keep fading in the division. Ryan more than makes up for Alfredsson's departure.
That price doesn't seem too steep, does it?
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Post by jkr on Jul 5, 2013 14:50:49 GMT -5
Well, we just keep fading in the division. Ryan more than makes up for Alfredsson's departure. That price doesn't seem too steep, does it? Boston, Ottawa, Detroit, Toronto all improved a lot at least in the near future while the Habs stand still. That is NOT a high price to pay for Ryan. Jeez, where is our management team?? |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 5, 2013 14:52:13 GMT -5
Deosn't seem high at all. Noesen has regressed from when he was drafted. Silvferberg was meh IMO all along, so it's a mid to late draft choice for a good scoring power forward. Comparably, thats our first rounder for next year, Louis Leblanc and Rene Bourque. Maybe we'd have to throw in a Dumont or Bournival or Ellis, but cheap anyway I look at it. Since it's from Garrioch, you have to question it.
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Post by Douper on Jul 5, 2013 14:52:15 GMT -5
Wow!
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Post by jkr on Jul 5, 2013 14:56:56 GMT -5
Well, we just keep fading in the division. Ryan more than makes up for Alfredsson's departure. That price doesn't seem too steep, does it? I guess the Ducks feel that Silvferberg will kick in a few goals for them.  |
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Post by drkcloud on Jul 5, 2013 15:05:00 GMT -5
Well, we just keep fading in the division. Ryan more than makes up for Alfredsson's departure. That price doesn't seem too steep, does it? Boston, Ottawa, Detroit, Toronto all improved a lot at least in the near future while the Habs stand still. That is NOT a high price to pay for Ryan. Jeez, where is our management team?? Not so much Boston but we will be in tough for sure. Habs rumored to be inquiring after Ryan but I guess the Ducks preferred the Sens package |
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Post by blny on Jul 5, 2013 15:05:45 GMT -5
If that's true, Sens get the best player in the deal. He's got two years left at $5.56 million. No guarantee that he likes playing in Canada. We'll see how he handles it. Ottawa isn't the pressure cooker that Toronto or Montreal are, but there's still a lot more scrutiny than anywhere in the USA.
I like Silfverberg. Could develop into an Alfredsson type of player.,
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Post by franko on Jul 5, 2013 15:13:04 GMT -5
Well, we just keep fading in the division. Ryan more than makes up for Alfredsson's departure. That price doesn't seem too steep, does it? Boston, Ottawa, Detroit, Toronto all improved a lot at least in the near future while the Habs stand still. That is NOT a high price to pay for Ryan. Jeez, where is our management team?? are you kidding me? you'd give up Galchy plus for him? |
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Post by blny on Jul 5, 2013 15:19:01 GMT -5
Ryan just tweeted:
"My gf just asked me if we were moving north of Detroit. Not a geography major haha"
lol
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Post by CentreHice on Jul 5, 2013 15:19:18 GMT -5
So franko....you're saying that Silfverberg would be trade equal to Galchenyuk?
If so, then no, I wouldn't make the deal. Neither would I do the deal if the talking point was Gallagher.
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Post by franko on Jul 5, 2013 15:20:25 GMT -5
Deosn't seem high at all. Noesen has regressed from when he was drafted. Silvferberg was meh IMO all along, so it's a mid to late draft choice for a good scoring power forward. Comparably, thats our first rounder for next year, Louis Leblanc and Rene Bourque. Maybe we'd have to throw in a Dumont or Bournival or Ellis, but cheap anyway I look at it. Since it's from Garrioch, you have to question it. no way that happens, 17. sounds good from our perspective, but Silfverberg will play. LL might. unless you are looking at Bourque playing and LL comparing with Noesen. |
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Post by jkr on Jul 5, 2013 15:20:48 GMT -5
Boston, Ottawa, Detroit, Toronto all improved a lot at least in the near future while the Habs stand still. That is NOT a high price to pay for Ryan. Jeez, where is our management team?? are you kidding me? you'd give up Galchy plus for him? Didn't say that. I think Galchenyuk is better than Silfverberg. JS is 22 & has 48 games of NHL experience. Don't think it's a lot to give up for a 26 year old guy who who has already scored 30 four times. |
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Post by franko on Jul 5, 2013 15:21:32 GMT -5
So franko....you're saying that Silfverberg would be trade equal to Galchenyuk? If so, then no, I wouldn't make the deal. Neither would I do the deal if the talking point was Gallagher. I think that's what the Ducks would be talking |
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Post by Skilly on Jul 5, 2013 15:28:45 GMT -5
I'd have given up Eller, our first rounder, and toss in a prospect (Beaulieu, Leblanc, etc) for Bobby Ryan .... That what the Habs equivalent would have been in my opinion.
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Post by PTH on Jul 5, 2013 16:41:09 GMT -5
Boston, Ottawa, Detroit, Toronto all improved a lot at least in the near future while the Habs stand still. That is NOT a high price to pay for Ryan. Jeez, where is our management team?? Not so much Boston but we will be in tough for sure. Habs rumored to be inquiring after Ryan but I guess the Ducks preferred the Sens package I guess Anaheim really liked the Ottawa players, because that isn't that great a package. What always makes it hard to figure out though is that we don't know who was key and who Anaheim really valued, and how much, so trying to make an equivalent package is well-nigh impossible. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 5, 2013 16:45:32 GMT -5
Deosn't seem high at all. Noesen has regressed from when he was drafted. Silvferberg was meh IMO all along, so it's a mid to late draft choice for a good scoring power forward. Comparably, thats our first rounder for next year, Louis Leblanc and Rene Bourque. Maybe we'd have to throw in a Dumont or Bournival or Ellis, but cheap anyway I look at it. Since it's from Garrioch, you have to question it. no way that happens, 17. sounds good from our perspective, but Silfverberg will play. LL might. unless you are looking at Bourque playing and LL comparing with Noesen. My bad. Thought Silfverberg was older. Replace Bourque with Gallagher and it's more similar (I'd rather have Gallagher than Silfverberg on my team). First rounders about equal. Silfverberg < Gallagher, Noesen = Lablanc. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 5, 2013 18:38:03 GMT -5
Jeez, where is our management team?? Busy signing Daniel Briere. Look, I have no problem with Bergevin if he and his team decided that they don't like Bobby Ryan enough to give up anything of value. But if we got scooped on this deal, then I am royally pissed off. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that after signing Getzlaf and Perry to max deals, it was highly unlikely that the Ducks were going to keep Ryan long-term. Bergevin had to know this and if he was interested he should have been on the phone daily with the Anaheim GM, if not putting an actual deal together making sure he was in the loop and interested in matching any deal out there. This deal looks great for Ottawa. Ryan is a power forward who can score. EXACTLY what we need to add more beef to our top 6 forwards. Maybe they really like Silverberg, but jeez this looks like a deal we could have easily matched. I hope MB wasn't asleep on this. My only hope is he is working on a big trade for a dman and couldn't spare the assets. But if at the end of the day all we have to show for the summer is Danny Freaking Briere?  ? Not happy. |
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Post by jkr on Jul 5, 2013 20:11:59 GMT -5
Busy signing Daniel Briere. Look, I have no problem with Bergevin if he and his team decided that they don't like Bobby Ryan enough to give up anything of value. But if we got scooped on this deal, then I am royally pissed off. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that after signing Getzlaf and Perry to max deals, it was highly unlikely that the Ducks were going to keep Ryan long-term. Bergevin had to know this and if he was interested he should have been on the phone daily with the Anaheim GM, if not putting an actual deal together making sure he was in the loop and interested in matching any deal out there. This deal looks great for Ottawa. Ryan is a power forward who can score. EXACTLY what we need to add more beef to our top 6 forwards. Maybe they really like Silverberg, but jeez this looks like a deal we could have easily matched. I hope MB wasn't asleep on this. My only hope is he is working on a big trade for a dman and couldn't spare the assets. But if at the end of the day all we have to show for the summer is Danny Freaking Briere? ? Not happy. This. To answer your question - how could they not like a 26 year old with 4 thirty goal seasons behind him? Everyone in the division made changes & improvements. All MTL did was add Briere to replace Ryder's output - hopefully. They haven't played a game & they are already behind. |
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Post by IamCanadiens on Jul 5, 2013 20:27:31 GMT -5
I like Silfverberg. Could develop into an Alfredsson type of player., I like him too. I like his style and love his potential. He already has one of the leagues most lethal wrist shots. I think he's going to score 30+ for a lot of years. |
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? Not happy.