|
|
Post by CentreHice on Feb 8, 2014 13:04:08 GMT -5
Dick IrvinA nice watch for anyone who remembers those days....or is interested in the Habs' history. Dick will be 82 this March. A real pro....a natural.
|
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 8, 2014 14:25:22 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing. They don't get any classier than Dick Irvin. Period.
|
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 9, 2014 21:02:22 GMT -5
He still has a way of telling his stories. Irvin has never changed that way. Could listen to him all night.
Used to listen to his radio play-by-play when I lived down East.
Cheers.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bones on Feb 12, 2014 13:55:31 GMT -5
Danny Gallivan and Dick Irvin a better broadcast team you'll never find. Great memories.
|
|
|
|
Post by Polarice on Feb 12, 2014 17:15:15 GMT -5
Danny Gallivan and Dick Irvin a better broadcast team you'll never find. Great memories. 100% agree Great stories, I've heard some before but I never get tired of hearing them!!! |
|
|
|
Post by GNick99 on Feb 17, 2014 11:34:03 GMT -5
Ken Dryden was on George Stompo recently. Worth watching....kind of boring in middle. Watch the first few minutes then jump to 33 minute mark when he is talking about Price and Subban. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IPX3Fprl4Q |
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Feb 17, 2014 11:55:23 GMT -5
Those are some really valid observations by Dryden, who is a consummate analyst. In both cases (PK and Price) he points out the superstar mentality; that Price is mentally tough and that PK will keep trying and has the ability to make special plays that most players can only do occasionally. Are you listening, Mike Babcock?
|
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2014 12:16:12 GMT -5
Are you listening, Mike Babcock? Are you listening Therrien? Cheers. |
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2014 12:36:10 GMT -5
Ken Dryden was on George Stompo recently. Worth watching....kind of boring in middle. Watch the first few minutes then jump to 33 minute mark when he is talking about Price and Subban. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IPX3Fprl4QNice to hear from someone who looks past the surface of controversy. Cheers. |
|
|
|
Post by CentreHice on Feb 17, 2014 17:47:04 GMT -5
Ken Dryden was on George Stompo recently. Worth watching....kind of boring in middle. Watch the first few minutes then jump to 33 minute mark when he is talking about Price and Subban. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IPX3Fprl4QNice to hear from someone who looks past the surface of controversy. Cheers. Right on, Dis. Dryden has a different era's perspective and it's quite refreshing in its non-sensationalist take. But can you imagine had there been the 24-hour sports stations and social media back in Dryden's day? Henri Richard calling out Al MacNeil in the Finals vs. Chicago in '71. Dryden and Lafleur receiving death threats during the 76 Finals vs. Philly. Scotty Bowman's head games with players......and Bowman being snubbed for GM in favour of Irving Grundman.... Imagine the HabsRus GDT for Game 7 vs. Boston in '79....wow! |
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Feb 17, 2014 18:24:31 GMT -5
I also chuckled at Dryden's observation of PK's response when some of the Hab players were asked how they'd feel about going to a shootout with Dryden in goal. Parros replies, "you mean Dryden today?" That was a hoot. George up against a 66 year old Ken Dryden. The really funny part is Dryden would probably still make the save. Gallagher, Gorges....all were awed about going up against Dryden. PK? He apologizes to Dryden for having to score on him. The one guy that assumed he was going to score. It's just a different attitude and if we lose him, Berg and Therrien should be tarred and feathered. That's a pillar you keep.
|
|
|
|
Post by GNick99 on Feb 17, 2014 19:15:04 GMT -5
Nice to hear from someone who looks past the surface of controversy. Cheers. Right on, Dis. Dryden has a different era's perspective and it's quite refreshing in its non-sensationalist take. But can you imagine had there been the 24-hour sports stations and social media back in Dryden's day? Henri Richard calling out Al MacNeil in the Finals vs. Chicago in '71. Dryden and Lafleur receiving death threats during the 76 Finals vs. Philly. Scotty Bowman's head games with players......and Bowman being snubbed for GM in favour of Irving Grundman.... Imagine the HabsRus GDT for Game 7 vs. Boston in '79....wow! Kind of glad we never had this stuff back then. The character of the game was so strong then...Danny Gallivan, no helmets...so many stars in game at same time(Orr, Howe, Beliveau, Hull). Don't want to risk changing anything. |
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2014 22:31:02 GMT -5
Right on, Dis. Dryden has a different era's perspective and it's quite refreshing in its non-sensationalist take. But can you imagine had there been the 24-hour sports stations and social media back in Dryden's day? Henri Richard calling out Al MacNeil in the Finals vs. Chicago in '71. Dryden and Lafleur receiving death threats during the 76 Finals vs. Philly. Scotty Bowman's head games with players......and Bowman being snubbed for GM in favour of Irving Grundman.... Imagine the HabsRus GDT for Game 7 vs. Boston in '79....wow! Kind of glad we never had this stuff back then. The character of the game was so strong then...Danny Gallivan, no helmets...so many stars in game at same time(Orr, Howe, Beliveau, Hull). Don't want to risk changing anything. They had their controversies as well. Back in the day there was always something to print, but most of it focused on the game. They would write about the players, but it wasn't a witch hunt for pettiness, as it is today. Most folks knew where their team's players hung out. Most of them drank beer and some of them smoked cigarettes. No one gave a hoot and there was a mutual respect. But we're also talking about a different generation of people. It didn't matter what part of the country you came from, this generation understood humility. And we saw that humility and respect on the ice, too. So, IMHO, the game was actually reflective of the culture. Different culture today, I dare say ... reflective in the business and the players ... there's less humility/respect on many levels ... Cheers. |
|
|
|
Post by GNick99 on Feb 18, 2014 8:43:16 GMT -5
Disgruntled, can you remember game of Ken/Dave Dryden playing against each other?
|
|
|
|
Post by Skilly on Feb 18, 2014 14:44:28 GMT -5
Disgruntled, can you remember game of Ken/Dave Dryden playing against each other? They only played half the game against each other ... Punch Imlach was going to start Dave against Ken on March 20, 1971 to promote the game. But the Habs would have nothing to do with it, so they started Rogie Vachon. Imlach upon hearing the news that Ken Dryden would not be starting, started Joe Daley instead. I believe he said it was a response to the "silly antics of the Canadiens". But Vachon got injured in the second period and was replaced by Ken Dryden. Imlach immediately pulled Daley and put in Dave Dryden. |
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 18, 2014 20:35:16 GMT -5
Disgruntled, can you remember game of Ken/Dave Dryden playing against each other? They only played half the game against each other ... Punch Imlach was going to start Dave against Ken on March 20, 1971 to promote the game. But the Habs would have nothing to do with it, so they started Rogie Vachon. Imlach upon hearing the news that Ken Dryden would not be starting, started Joe Daley instead. I believe he said it was a response to the "silly antics of the Canadiens". But Vachon got injured in the second period and was replaced by Ken Dryden. Imlach immediately pulled Daley and put in Dave Dryden. Thanks Skilly. I originally saw the question but I was on my way out the door. I actually pulled my old copy of "The Game" (Dryden) off the shelf and looked for it in there. Les bons frères Dryden. Good times, no? Cheers. |
|
|
|
Post by CentreHice on Feb 18, 2014 22:35:48 GMT -5
Disgruntled, can you remember game of Ken/Dave Dryden playing against each other? They only played half the game against each other ... Punch Imlach was going to start Dave against Ken on March 20, 1971 to promote the game. But the Habs would have nothing to do with it, so they started Rogie Vachon. Imlach upon hearing the news that Ken Dryden would not be starting, started Joe Daley instead. I believe he said it was a response to the "silly antics of the Canadiens". But Vachon got injured in the second period and was replaced by Ken Dryden. Imlach immediately pulled Daley and put in Dave Dryden. When I Googled the Drydens facing each other, the first hit is the Hall of Fame site which features the info you cited. But, at the end of their entry, it states: "It was the first and only time in NHL history that two brothers faced off against one another in opposite goals."I vividly recall seeing them play each other, and shaking hands at centre after the game...and it was much later than Mar. 20, 1971, which was one of Dryden's 6 reg. season games before his miraculous Conn Smythe run. So, I Googled further. Bingo. From: Third String GoalieFollowing that first game, they ended up playing each other about four or five times over the course of their careers during the two additional seasons their NHL careers overlapped, and they had agreed that they would always shake hands at center ice after the game. We don't believe the photo above is from their first encounter, as Ken would have been wearing his "pretzel" mask on the occasion of his nhl debut, but it is an early enough photo that his mask has yet to acquire his iconic concentric "C" design that many interpreted as a bullseye target. However, the pic above IS from that first game....as Dave is wearing #28, which he wore only in 1971, according to the Sabres Jersey Numbers on Hockey-Reference. Ken, therefore, must have worn a fuller mask for a few games before switching to the more open "pretzel" model. He definitely wore the pretzel in the 71 and 73 playoffs, so I would presume he also wore it in 72. He took 73-74 off to finish his law degree...so maybe he returned in 74-75 with the new mask...I'll dig deeper. And here are Ken's own words from another site: I couldn’t get comfortable in the game. Already struggling with the sense of unreality that I’d felt since joining the team – if this is me, this can’t be the real NHL – this was worse: if this is me and Dave, this really can’t be the NHL. I felt like I was outside myself. But I had a game to play. I had a new team. I had to prove myself. The Canadiens had been ahead when we both went in; the Canadiens stayed ahead. The game ended. I never felt part of it.
Dave and I played against each other a few more times in other years. It was never fun.Here's a later pic of them shaking hands at centre. Dave is wearing #30, which he wore from 72-74.  You'd think a Hall of Fame site would have the correct info...ha! Fun stuff....great memories! |
|
|
|
Post by CentreHice on Feb 19, 2014 0:14:02 GMT -5
RE: Ken Dryden's masks. Cornell--"Pretzel" mask Habs--Mar. 20/71, with brother Dave at centre ice. Dave is wearing #28, which he wore only in 1971. Ken must've tried a fuller, solid white mask for a game or two before switching back to the pretzel. 1971 playoffs with Fergie in the foreground. Fergie's last year.  1972 Team Canada 1972-73 Playoffs 1973-74Took the year off to complete his law degree. 1974-75 Semi-Finals vs. Buffalo He either returned with the fuller, painted mask...or changed to it as the season wore on. He used that model/design until he retired. Again.....great memories....aside from losing the series to Buffalo.  |
|
|
|
Post by GNick99 on Feb 19, 2014 4:55:28 GMT -5
Thanks Centre, I can remember the Dryden brothers game but vaguely. As I was only 6. Why I asked for more details after seeing Dryden interview.
|
|
|
|
Post by CentreHice on Feb 19, 2014 9:41:51 GMT -5
Thanks Centre, I can remember the Dryden brothers game but vaguely. As I was only 6. Why I asked for more details after seeing Dryden interview. No problem. It was fun to research and recall. I didn't see their first meeting...but I saw one of the others, which got me looking into the veracity of the "first and ONLY time" assertion in the HOF article. |
|
|
|
Post by Bones on Feb 19, 2014 22:30:37 GMT -5
I always loved that "pretzel mask" looks intimidating to me. Great stuff CH.
|
|
|
|
Post by CentreHice on Feb 20, 2014 1:14:38 GMT -5
Here's a great pic. You usually have to go back to the mask-less era to really see how a goalie's face changes. An iconic, unique mask.  |
|
The Lords Of The Rings
