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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2004 18:21:09 GMT -5
Barons will be looking for revenge...maybe. If Ellis is in net I'll probably say their revenge will be fulfilled.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2004 20:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by montreal on Nov 6, 2004 21:13:27 GMT -5
That's how good Komisarek is, he can score and not even be at the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2004 21:39:05 GMT -5
3-2 Cleveland late. Something needs to be done about Ellis.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2004 21:46:50 GMT -5
Focht scores late. 3-3 into OT.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2004 21:49:04 GMT -5
Perish the thought. Cleveland scores the winner. Ellis remains without a win.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2004 23:55:38 GMT -5
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Post by blaise on Nov 7, 2004 0:42:58 GMT -5
Elllis must have an enormous wingspan because he's an albatross for the Bulldogs. The players must shudder when his name is penciled into the game sheet. The good news is that the Habs management must be appreciating Danis more and more.
Oh, by the way, it was Kostitsyn who scored, not Komisarek. USAToday must not be aware of Komi's unavailability. Kostitsyn was +2, Plekanec and Ward +3. Plekanec had a goal and 2 assists. This guy belongs in the NHL without a doubt.
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Post by FormerLurker on Nov 7, 2004 4:35:09 GMT -5
Elllis must have an enormous wingspan because he's an albatross for the Bulldogs. The records of Danis and Ellis are quite different, but I'm not sure that it's entirely Ellis' fault. Ellis just doesn't seem to get the same kind of support from his team that Danis enjoys. Last night, the Dogs were outshot by a wide margin, and three of the four goals against came on the powerplay, including the OT winner (with Kostsitsyn in the box). |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 7, 2004 6:09:36 GMT -5
The records of Danis and Ellis are quite different, but I'm not sure that it's entirely Ellis' fault. Ellis just doesn't seem to get the same kind of support from his team that Danis enjoys. Last night, the Dogs were outshot by a wide margin, and three of the four goals against came on the powerplay, including the OT winner (with Kostsitsyn in the box). In that case, what is the team saying? Regardless, one of the provisions of the deal with Dallas was that the Stars would have a goalie on the club. One assumes a certain number of starts are expected for him. Oh well. |
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Post by blaise on Nov 7, 2004 10:00:41 GMT -5
The records of Danis and Ellis are quite different, but I'm not sure that it's entirely Ellis' fault. Ellis just doesn't seem to get the same kind of support from his team that Danis enjoys. Last night, the Dogs were outshot by a wide margin, and three of the four goals against came on the powerplay, including the OT winner (with Kostsitsyn in the box). The Bulldogs didn't know either Ellis or Danis from Adam when training camp started, so they didn't have built-in prejudices. If they rally when playing in front of Danis and fold when Danis is inserted, there must be something about the two that triggers a different response. After having thrashed the Barons in Cleveland the Bulldogs submitted meekly at home. Danis probably offers Ellis comforting words, but Ellis must be all too aware of the diametrically opposite results. If this pattern persists for another few games I think the Stars should seriously consider relocating Ellis before his confidence takes permanent residence in the sewer (and hurts the Bulldogs, which is of only incidental concern to them). |
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Post by montreal on Nov 7, 2004 10:42:29 GMT -5
Danis has played 9 career games in the AHL, and has yet to lose in regulation 8-1 (ot loss). He's currently ranked 3rd in the AHL in gaa and save %, 1st in wins. Ellis is 0-5 this year, something is clearly wrong. Why does the team play different? Who says they are playing that much different? Ellis has poor rebound control, thus generating more shots. Danis is much more technical. Also Ellis has let in a number of sofites, which can kill a teams confidence. In the philly game I was at, the Dogs were not playing a good physical game, but Plekanec got them back in it and even took the lead. But then Ellis (who was playing well) let in a questionable goal and then another one, and it seemed to take the life out of the team.
I'm not saying Ellis is a bad goalie, just want to see the Dogs win.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 7, 2004 13:47:23 GMT -5
And in the televised game against the Moose, the 1st goal most certainly was stoppable and the 2nd one was iffy. He may have made an excellent save during the game, but I don't believe there was more than one. You expect a goalie to make one great save a game (luck, timing, whatever), and if they make more than one, the skill-o-meter moves up the scale. Ellis' score is definitely pointing toward BLAND. Can't agree more about a team's confidence depending on their goalie. When you have no faith in your keeper, you just don't give that little more energy, take that extra stride, block that shot, and so on. Hockey annals are strewn with the bones of teams that coulda, shoulda, but didn't have the goaltending. But hey, Danis' looking pretty good, no matter what kind of game the Dogs in front of him play. PS, Blaise you're right about the Komisarek/Kostitsyn confusion by USAtoday. I should have known better than to trust anything coming out of the US.  For the less enquiring and more factual minds, here's the AHL boxscore from Canoe.ca slam.canoe.ca/SlamScoreboard/ahl-frameset.html |
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Post by Gogie on Nov 8, 2004 9:35:40 GMT -5
.....Ellis has poor rebound control, thus generating more shots. Danis is much more technical. Also Ellis has let in a number of sofites, which can kill a teams confidence.... Montreal hit the nail on the head! I've seen Ellis play a couple of times and he's terrible controlling rebounds. He'll let them go everywhere, including directly back into the slot (thankfully the Dogs' defense was in position to grab one in the slot Saturday before a Cleveland player pounced on it). The only time Ellis makes a save is when he can get himself into postion to block a shot. If he has to move to make a save, look out! His reflexes are slow and you could drive a Sherman tank through his five hole. Part of the reason the Dogs give up more shots with Ellis in net may be because the forwards feel that they have to drop back more to try to cover rebounds, leaving the points open for the oppostion to control the play more in the Dogs' end. With Danis in net the Dogs are probably more confident and so can take a few more chances playing up higher and taking away the point play. I'd prefer to see someone like Michaud get some icetime in Hamilton rather Ellis. Screw the agreement with Dallas, it's Montreal's farm team. Playing Ellis is bad for the entire team. On another note, Kostitsyn is becoming somewhat of a "whipping boy" for a few of the Bulldog fans. The fact that he's wearing Marcel Hossa's old number (17) doesn't help any. Hossa was the target of just about every Dogs fan's ire last year. Kostitsyn, despite flashes of brilliance, hasn't shown a lot of desire to get his nose dirty yet. What happened to his reputation for a willingness to go into the corners and play physical? He obviously has oodles of talent. Hopefully he'll follow in Perozhogin's footsteps and turn it up after Christsmas, once he becomes more comfortable with the professional game. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 8, 2004 11:50:23 GMT -5
Montreal hit the nail on the head! I've seen Ellis play a couple of times and he's terrible controlling rebounds. He'll let them go everywhere, including directly back into the slot (thankfully the Dogs' defense was in position to grab one in the slot Saturday before a Cleveland player pounced on it). The only time Ellis makes a save is when he can get himself into postion to block a shot. If he has to move to make a save, look out! His reflexes are slow and you could drive a Sherman tank through his five hole. Part of the reason the Dogs give up more shots with Ellis in net may be because the forwards feel that they have to drop back more to try to cover rebounds, leaving the points open for the oppostion to control the play more in the Dogs' end. With Danis in net the Dogs are probably more confident and so can take a few more chances playing up higher and taking away the point play. I'd prefer to see someone like Michaud get some icetime in Hamilton rather Ellis. Screw the agreement with Dallas, it's Montreal's farm team. Playing Ellis is bad for the entire team. It obviously sounds like Danis is the superior technician of the two. I, too, would like to see Michaud apprentice at the AHL level, and were it not for Ellis he likely would be doing just that. A deal is a deal until it's renegotiated. Who knows what other considerations aside from probable cash money are involved. I would expect that if the current trend continues a case for demoting Ellis could be made. What weight that would carry is another matter. One can hope. Hmmm, I'm disappointed to hear that he doesn't seem to be more physically involved in the play. However, the fact that he has taken only 13 shots in 12 games, is tied for the team lead with a +4 differential, and is being used by Jarvis on the PK (he has 1 SH goal) augurs well for the rounding out of his game. I am expecting an icetime and offensive upsurge à la Perezhogin in the second half of the season, if not sooner. |
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