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Post by GNick99 on Jun 21, 2014 9:42:06 GMT -5
Been watching CNN 60s documentary. I was too young to recall it but pretty scary stuff. Get the opinion assassination of JFK likely saved the world from another war. Way they talk on there he was very aggressive compared to Johnson. Vietnam war, Cuban missile crisis, Bay of Pigs, Kennedy played big role in these. What do some of you who can remember this era think about it?
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 21, 2014 11:01:41 GMT -5
I was only 4 when he was assassinated.
I always thought Kennedy was against the war in Vietnam, which was one possible motive for removing him.
Maybe it's just that scene in "JFK" when, after the assassination, Johnson says something like, "Now you can have your damn war…."
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 21, 2014 11:40:18 GMT -5
I was very, very young when the Cuban Missile Crisis occurred ... we were living Germany at the time ... my dad was posted there ... I don't remember it, per se, but I remember my mother telling me that "the boys" had been called into work on very short notice and the wives and kids in our apartment block were all over to our place to listen to radio to hear if we'd have to be on the plane in short notice ... to give you an idea of the process, it was standard practice to have one suitcase packed per family member so that you could be moved in an hour ... this was still the practice when my wife and I were posted overseas in '86 ... me, how do I remember from the 60's? ... lots and lots of long-haired teenagers rebelling against (just about) every form of authority ... seemed we always heard about 'another friend's brother/sister' either getting kicked out or leaving home ... pot ... Rowan and Martin's Laugh-in started in the 60's and ended in the early 70's ... it was taken off the air after for being too rogue and too much in the government's face ... they did better than The Smother's Brothers, though ... they were a laugh but they eventually got canned for being too critical after only two seasons ... ultra conservative American just couldn't handle the criticism, I guess ... wasn't all bad, though ... Get Smart (starring Barbra Feldon) was on daily ... Gilligan's Island (starring Dawn Wells) ... Star Trek (Michelle Nichols) ... pot ... Beverly Hillbillies (Donna Douglas) ... the 60's set up the 70's kind of nicely ... the 70's was when the country really started finding itself, I thought anyway ...
Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 21, 2014 14:06:33 GMT -5
Musically, the Beatles owned the decade and formed the soundtrack of many a memory. They still do, but I remember my older cousins being very excited about their upcoming albums. I was just a bit too young to fully appreciate Beatle-mania.
Was only 8 when Sgt. Pepper's was released. I enjoyed the Stones….but not nearly as much as the Fab Four.
Also….Motown and Stax Records….just a ton of solid music. Four Tops, Supremes, Marvin Gaye, Temptations, James Brown, Booker T. and the MGs, Otis Redding, Sam and Dave…..
Early 60s music I recall: Lesley Gore, Four Seasons, The Kinks,
Elvis made a whack of movies instead of hits.
And of course, the beginning of psychedelic/hard rock with Hendrix, Cream, Vanilla Fudge, Blue Cheer, Zeppelin, Grand Funk Railroad et al.
To go with your theme, Dis……I Dream of Jeannie (Barbara Eden), Petticoat Junction (Lori Saunders), Batman (Julie Newmar). Wow.
Sit-coms: Two of my faves...Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke.
Cartoons: Couldn't wait for Jonny Quest.
And how about The Flintstones, based on the Honeymooners and shown in prime-time…..complete with cigarette ads.
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Post by GNick99 on Jun 21, 2014 14:30:01 GMT -5
I was only 4 when he was assassinated. I always thought Kennedy was against the war in Vietnam, which was one possible motive for removing him. Maybe it's just that scene in "JFK" when, after the assassination, Johnson says something like, "Now you can have your damn war…." Said on there last night Kennedy was for overthrowing of Diem gov't in South Vietnam. Johnson was saying he inherited a mess, but must continue the war in Vietnam because if we run from communism it would always chase us. The '60s certainly changed the world. Next week it is going to be segregation. Must watch Woodstove, Beattles episode when it is aired |
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Post by duster on Jun 22, 2014 19:46:28 GMT -5
Cartoons: Couldn't wait for Jonny Quest. Jonny Quest...loved that show. Had this thing for the "Banana Splits" and "Wacky Races". My fave was Ultraman: the only super hero who needed to recharge his batteries half way through the show.  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 22, 2014 21:27:09 GMT -5
Cartoons: Couldn't wait for Jonny Quest. Jonny Quest...loved that show. Had this thing for the "Banana Splits" and "Wacky Races". My fave was Ultraman: the only super hero who needed to recharge his batteries half way through the show. Johnny Quest was cool ... so was the Johnny Seven ... I had one and it fired little white bullets, rockets, grenades and it had a detachable pistol for 'close-quarter fighting' ... times, they be a changin' I reckon ...  |
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Post by franko on Jun 22, 2014 22:21:26 GMT -5
I was more into . . .  |
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Post by blny on Jun 22, 2014 22:25:58 GMT -5
It's great to have threads like this. I can forget about my arthritic hip and back and feel young again. Thanks old fellers. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 23, 2014 13:57:42 GMT -5
Jonny Quest...loved that show. Had this thing for the "Banana Splits" and "Wacky Races". My fave was Ultraman: the only super hero who needed to recharge his batteries half way through the show. Johnny Quest was cool ... so was the Johnny Seven ... I had one and it fired little white bullets, rockets, grenades and it had a detachable pistol for 'close-quarter fighting' ... times, they be a changin' I reckon ... LOL - that kid looks like a one man army. I had something similar that fired red mortars - maybe it was that one. I was armed to the teeth most of the time. My favorite weapon was the"Wanted - dead or Alive" sawed off shotgun. I'll try to find a picture. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 23, 2014 14:15:18 GMT -5
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Post by northernlou on Jun 23, 2014 16:03:42 GMT -5
I hunted our pet cat with my Johnny Seven. "Run Buffy, run!"
Also had a Secret Sam if anyone remembers those armed briefcases.
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Post by franko on Jun 23, 2014 17:18:26 GMT -5
and the ever-popular . . .  today think about playing spy/war/cowboys and . . . and . . . and non-cowboys and see where you wind up. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 23, 2014 17:33:01 GMT -5
Sorry gnick - looks like we really threw your thread off track. How so? ... the thread was about the 60's ... as far as the Bay of Pigs is concerned, I actually remember being in Germany but I don't remember what my mother told me (see above) ... I think we were in Ottawa when Kennedy was assassinated ... couldn't tell you what I was doing ... might have been something to do with my GI Joe with lifelike hair ... or was it the Kung Fu grip (or was that later) ... Vietnam wasn't a concern for me because I was too young ... if Oliver Stone can be believed, LBJ was a putz ... I do remember the 1967 Centennial ... the first moon landing and everyone making a huge deal of it ... I remember the Montreal Expos first game but I'm pretty sure I didn't watch the whole game ... too much to do outside, eh ... Secret Sam ... excellent! ... was that the briefcase that fired bullets ...  Cheers. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 23, 2014 17:37:40 GMT -5
Sorry gnick - looks like we really threw your thread off track. How so? ... the thread was about the 60's ... as far as the Bay of Pigs is concerned, I actually remember being in Germany when that was going on ... I think we were in Ottawa when Kennedy was assassinated ... couldn't tell you what I was doing ... might have been something to do with my GI Joe with lifelike hair ... or was it the Kung Fu grip (or was that later) ... Vietnam wasn't a concern for me because I was too young ... if Oliver Stone can be believed, LBJ was a putz ... I do remember the 1967 Centennial ... the first moon landing and everyone making a huge deal of it ... I remember the Montreal Expos first game but I'm pretty sure I didn't watch the whole game ... too much to do outside, eh ... Cheers. Gnick started off in a serious vein and it progressed to toy talk. That's all I meant. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 24, 2014 12:34:07 GMT -5
How so? ... the thread was about the 60's ... as far as the Bay of Pigs is concerned, I actually remember being in Germany when that was going on ... I think we were in Ottawa when Kennedy was assassinated ... couldn't tell you what I was doing ... might have been something to do with my GI Joe with lifelike hair ... or was it the Kung Fu grip (or was that later) ... Vietnam wasn't a concern for me because I was too young ... if Oliver Stone can be believed, LBJ was a putz ... I do remember the 1967 Centennial ... the first moon landing and everyone making a huge deal of it ... I remember the Montreal Expos first game but I'm pretty sure I didn't watch the whole game ... too much to do outside, eh ... Cheers. Gnick started off in a serious vein and it progressed to toy talk. That's all I meant. Dude, you worry too much  ... I'm really hoping some of our Quebec-based brethren remember "Thierry la Fronde" (Terry the Sling) ... I remember the opening to this series and maybe one additional scene but that's about it ... used to watch it all the time when I was a young lad ... looks a lot different now that I'm older ... |
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Post by jkr on Jun 24, 2014 13:13:58 GMT -5
Gnick started off in a serious vein and it progressed to toy talk. That's all I meant. Dude, you worry too much ... I'm really hoping some of our Quebec-based brethren remember "Thierry la Fronde" (Terry the Sling) ... I remember the opening to this series and maybe one additional scene but that's about it ... used to watch it all the time when I was a young lad ... looks a lot different now that I'm older ... I watched this all the time too. Between street hockey and TV my days were full. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 25, 2014 15:55:49 GMT -5
... Bay of Pigs, Kennedy played big role in these. What do some of you who can remember this era think about it? I learned a bit more about the process that led up to the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Bay of Pigs debacle ... a while back, BC posted a process on how groups plan to fail and it's called Groupthink (Irving Janis '84) (I remember who posted it because it became one of the hottest topics on a classroom dynamics course I taught) ... in the BoP scenario, Kennedy was surrounded by yes-men who simply agreed with whatever the president said ... everyone agreeing caused the process to fail because not all of the cards weren't made available ... on the eve of the BoP invasion, Kennedy turned to his staff and realized that this plan would never work ... the guys that landed in Cuba were already fighting for their lives and they were left shorthanded ... it wasn't long before the Cubans overwhelmed them ... another case of "Groupthink" would be the George W-led invasion of Iraq ... if you Google that you'll see how that process failed, too ... like Kennedy, Bush had his yes-men, but Bush would also dismiss anyone who rocked the boat in the planning process ... those who disagreed with the invasion were replaced with people who would support Bush ... try and examine all of the alternatives when no one asks critical questions ... it not only affects the development of a cohesive group , but it affects the results of that group, as well ... interesting stuff when you research the examples ... Cheers. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 25, 2014 17:23:37 GMT -5
The Cuban Missile Crisis was the closest I remember to the possibility of the end of the world. USSR didn't want that either and although I thought Kennedy was in the wrong, I supported him and think he may have saved the world by taking a strong stand.
Saddest moment in my life was Kennedy's assignation. Remember everything about that fateful day. Shocking.
Great years to be a Hab's fan.
Beatles were a joke but remember my sister crying after seeing them at the Forum.
We won the right to hold Expo 67 a big tip of the chapeau to Drapeau, Man and his world and host the Olympics in 76.
Montreal, not Toronto was the center of Canada. Sadly Montreal was bypassed as corporation and people moved west.
Absolutely hated LBJ and was disappointed when he announced he wouldn't run for reelection. I was hoping to see him trounced.
I remember that very few of my English friends spoke any French and didn't need to back then. I don't remember anyone being rejected at Eaton's for speaking French but I'm sure with that many employees mistakes were made. Most of the young people I grew up with left Quebec.
It was a simpler time. No Gay Pride parades, no warnings on cigarette packages, no seatbelts, no mothers against drunk drivers, we swam in the St. Lawrence river and yes, the back river was polluted. We played outdoors and didn't worry about sexual predators. Hitchhiking was normal. It was a simpler time and somehow we survived and flourished. If I was spoken to in French I answered in French and there was no animosity. After high school you went to college, not cegep. No internet, no cell phones, party lines, just recovered from Russia sending up the first scary Sputnik and we caught up by racing to the moon. Never considered personal computers would be affordable, needed and one day almost obsolete. Kids didn't drop out of college to found billion dollar companies in three weeks. Garman and a network of satalites wasn't even a thought. Polio vaccines were common.
It was a simpler time.
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Post by GNick99 on Jun 25, 2014 17:29:35 GMT -5
... Bay of Pigs, Kennedy played big role in these. What do some of you who can remember this era think about it? I learned a bit more about the process that led up to the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Bay of Pigs debacle ... a while back, BC posted a process on how groups plan to fail and it's called Groupthink (Irving Janis '84) (I remember who posted it because it became one of the hottest topics on a classroom dynamics course I taught) ... in the BoP scenario, Kennedy was surrounded by yes-men who simply agreed with whatever the president said ... everyone agreeing caused the process to fail because not all of the cards weren't made available ... on the eve of the BoP invasion, Kennedy turned to his staff and realized that this plan would never work ... the guys that landed in Cuba were already fighting for their lives and they were left shorthanded ... it wasn't long before the Cubans overwhelmed them ... another case of "Groupthink" would be the George W-led invasion of Iraq ... if you Google that you'll see how that process failed, too ... like Kennedy, Bush had his yes-men, but Bush would also dismiss anyone who rocked the boat in the planning process ... those who disagreed with the invasion were replaced with people who would support Bush ... try and examine all of the alternatives when no one asks critical questions ... it not only affects the development of a cohesive group , but it affects the results of that group, as well ... interesting stuff when you research the examples ... Cheers. Yeah, this was before my time. Next episode is on tomorrow night. Be interesting no doubt |
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Post by GNick99 on Jun 28, 2014 16:31:31 GMT -5
Martin Luther King, Civil Rights workers murders, March on Montgomery, Watts, never realized how lucky I have it to be born in the country of Canada. After watching lastest episode on segration. Must have been a rough time.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 1, 2014 20:24:00 GMT -5
I learned a bit more about the process that led up to the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Bay of Pigs debacle ... a while back, BC posted a process on how groups plan to fail and it's called Groupthink (Irving Janis '84) (I remember who posted it because it became one of the hottest topics on a classroom dynamics course I taught) ... in the BoP scenario, Kennedy was surrounded by yes-men who simply agreed with whatever the president said ... everyone agreeing caused the process to fail because not all of the cards weren't made available ... on the eve of the BoP invasion, Kennedy turned to his staff and realized that this plan would never work ... the guys that landed in Cuba were already fighting for their lives and they were left shorthanded ... it wasn't long before the Cubans overwhelmed them ... another case of "Groupthink" would be the George W-led invasion of Iraq ... if you Google that you'll see how that process failed, too ... like Kennedy, Bush had his yes-men, but Bush would also dismiss anyone who rocked the boat in the planning process ... those who disagreed with the invasion were replaced with people who would support Bush ... try and examine all of the alternatives when no one asks critical questions ... it not only affects the development of a cohesive group , but it affects the results of that group, as well ... interesting stuff when you research the examples ... Cheers. Yeah, this was before my time. Next episode is on tomorrow night. Be interesting no doubt The US wanted to inspect Cuba for missiles after the Soviet ships turned around ... the Cubans said no-way-Jose and Kennedy implemented the present-day embargo on Cuba (Cole's notes version) ... Here's a somewhat funny behind-the-scenes story about the embargo and the Bay of Pigs ... It involves Kennedy's then-Secretary, Pierre Salinger (first clip only): On a more serious note, the present-day embargo should really be removed ... it's really out of date and I suspect once Castro passes away the US might revisit that ... interesting story ... just after New Orleans went under water from Hurricane Katrina, the Cubans offered doctors and nurses to help out and the US ignored them ... I don't know why they did that; maybe it has to do with the embargo, but I suspect there were other reasons, possibly of a professional nature, that influenced the decision ... Cheers. |
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Post by GNick99 on Jul 26, 2014 17:51:16 GMT -5
Had the space race on last night...pretty impressive.
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... I'm really hoping some of our Quebec-based brethren remember "Thierry la Fronde" (Terry the Sling) ... I remember the opening to this series and maybe one additional scene but that's about it ... used to watch it all the time when I was a young lad ... looks a lot different now that I'm older ... 