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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 26, 2014 14:58:11 GMT -5
...Subban signature ?
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Post by UberCranky on Jun 26, 2014 15:16:54 GMT -5
Subban has been traded to Boston.......
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Post by Dschens on Jun 26, 2014 15:27:43 GMT -5
Subban has been traded to Boston....... in your dreams, UberCranky. By the way, this Greek pastry looks really good. I'm looking forward to taste it.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2014 15:36:29 GMT -5
Don't think it will be Subban. According to Newport Sports, they have merely set forth a time table.
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Post by habernac on Jun 26, 2014 15:53:46 GMT -5
Vanek, Murray and Parros will not be offered contracts Canadiens Montréal @canadiensmtl · 45s "Aucune offre ne sera faite à Parros, Vanek et Murray"/"No offer will be made to Parros, Vanek and… http://instagram.com/p/puKpAMszbI
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 26, 2014 16:03:15 GMT -5
Vanek, Murray and Parros will not be offered contracts Canadiens Montréal @canadiensmtl · 45s "Aucune offre ne sera faite à Parros, Vanek et Murray"/"No offer will be made to Parros, Vanek and… http://instagram.com/p/puKpAMszbI Parros--no surprise. He should retire for the sake of his cranial well-being. Murray--happy about that. Too much of a liability. Sure, he hits people…but he has to get there in time…and get back in position afterwards. Vanek--seems as if MB agreed with MT's assessment/usage of Vanek in the playoffs. Gonna have to replace that regular season point potential/production, though.
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Post by GNick99 on Jun 26, 2014 16:06:38 GMT -5
Vanek, Murray and Parros will not be offered contracts Canadiens Montréal @canadiensmtl · 45s "Aucune offre ne sera faite à Parros, Vanek et Murray"/"No offer will be made to Parros, Vanek and… http://instagram.com/p/puKpAMszbI He called a press conference for that?
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2014 16:07:21 GMT -5
I'm with CH. If not Vanek, then it has to be someone capable of at the very least similar production. I would like to replace Parros with a similar type of player in the 13th forward spot. That player realizes they don't play every day, and not at all when the playoffs arrive.
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Post by habernac on Jun 26, 2014 16:07:50 GMT -5
I'm just getting snippets of the conversation off Twitter, I'm sure there's more
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Post by franko on Jun 26, 2014 16:08:13 GMT -5
Vanek, Murray and Parros will not be offered contracts Canadiens Montréal @canadiensmtl · 45s "Aucune offre ne sera faite à Parros, Vanek et Murray"/"No offer will be made to Parros, Vanek and… http://instagram.com/p/puKpAMszbI He called a press conference for that? that was my first thought, too.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2014 16:14:44 GMT -5
We can all guess wild guesses, but I'd hate to think he'd call a press conference to announce something that most would expect would be done via press release. Press conferences better be higher profile, or no one will come to his next press conference.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 26, 2014 16:20:22 GMT -5
We can all guess wild guesses, but I'd hate to think he'd call a press conference to announce something that most would expect would be done via press release. Press conferences better be higher profile, or no one will come to his next press conference. I used to work with a principal who called meetings to announce his next meeting. Don't miss those days.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2014 16:27:09 GMT -5
Naming new assistant coach?
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2014 16:29:58 GMT -5
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Post by christrpn on Jun 26, 2014 16:30:57 GMT -5
Setting the table. Blah blah blah, Character and compete, Blah blah blah we have contacted players from other teams, blah blah blah we are looking at centers, wingers and defense, we're set on goalies.
Close to the chest
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Post by Cranky on Jun 26, 2014 16:35:00 GMT -5
Subban has been traded to Boston....... in your dreams, UberCranky. By the way, this Greek pastry looks really good. I'm looking forward to taste it. It's like fishing with no bait.....I try to catch one that's sleeping.....lol That pastry is a diet special....yup....and more addictive then heroin! My wife wont go within a mile of it because she claims it makes her fatter by looking at it!
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Post by Cranky on Jun 26, 2014 16:37:03 GMT -5
Setting the table. Blah blah blah, Character and compete, Blah blah blah we have contacted players from other teams, blah blah blah we are looking at centers, wingers and defense, we're set on goalies. Close to the chest Did he mention any thing about hiring HabsRus as consultants? There is no shortage of telling him what to do....or where to go! LOL!
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2014 16:45:23 GMT -5
Lu is reporting that Berg has stated emphatically that Vanek will not be back. Weaver and Cube still possibilities.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 26, 2014 16:51:40 GMT -5
Lu is reporting that Berg has stated emphatically that Vanek will not be back. Weaver and Cube still possibilities. Hanging on to Cube flies in the face of everything else he's supposedly doing to improve the team.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 26, 2014 16:54:57 GMT -5
I’m mixing comments from Berg and Timmins:
Feels position 15 to 40 is very similar this year.
Could move his pick if a team has its sight on their pick or the other way around.
Emphasis on player who are hard to play against, Timmins said his way of evaluating talent has evolved in that direction.
Feels the Russian/KHL thing is getting to be less of an inhibitive factor.
Feels Sweden player (such as Nygren) mature at a slower pace, so it’s not a problem to have them develop in their country for a longer time.
Discussions with teams are ongoing but movements usually happens on the draft floor.
No offer to Vanek, Murray, Parros. Said he doesn’t have cap room for Vanek and knew it when he acquired him. He was acquired specifically to make the playoffs.
All other UFAs (Bouillon, Weaver, Gionta) door isn’t closed.
Is talking to other UFAs as well.
In replacing Gallant, will look at internal solution first, then external one.
Trevor Timmins is a key guy in the organisation for Berg.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 26, 2014 17:06:16 GMT -5
Said he doesn’t have cap room for Vanek and knew it when he acquired him. He was acquired specifically to make the playoffs. All other UFAs (Bouillon, Weaver, Gionta) door isn’t closed. Not sure I buy the "we don't have cap room" argument in the case of Vanek. Name me one contending franchise that doesn't have at least one forward making over $5 million. As of today, Plekanec is our higest paid forward at $5m, followed by Pacioretty at $4.5m and FREAKING DANNY BRIERE at $4m. It makes me sick that Berg is making that excuse. Then why did you sign Briere? Why did you extend Travis Moen? Why don't you let Gionta walk? If Berg thinks he can put together a contending roster WITHOUT paying a big time forward big time money then I don't know what he's smoking. And I don't want to hear the "we have tp take care of PK" line either. Berg had a chance to do that 2 years ago as well. So we're not going to sign Vanek, but we'll bring back Gionta, we'll take our draft pick, we'll look to add depth.... same old same old. Why would we want a guy that can give you 30 goals and around 75-80 points? It doesn't have to be Vanek but it has to be somebody. That PC just pissed me off.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2014 17:15:23 GMT -5
If we don't replace Vanek, we went from contender to struggling to make the playoffs, just like that ....
We were a middling team until Bergevin worked magic and got Weaver, Weise and Vanek ..... Going into next season with status quo is a terrible organizational decision. I hope he is just posturing
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2014 17:15:32 GMT -5
Doesn't have cap room my ass.
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Post by christrpn on Jun 26, 2014 17:21:03 GMT -5
Said he doesn’t have cap room for Vanek and knew it when he acquired him. He was acquired specifically to make the playoffs. All other UFAs (Bouillon, Weaver, Gionta) door isn’t closed. Not sure I buy the "we don't have cap room" argument in the case of Vanek. Name me one contending franchise that doesn't have at least one forward making over $5 million. As of today, Plekanec is our higest paid forward at $5m, followed by Pacioretty at $4.5m and FREAKING DANNY BRIERE at $4m. It makes me sick that Berg is making that excuse. Then why did you sign Briere? Why did you extend Travis Moen? Why don't you let Gionta walk? If Berg thinks he can put together a contending roster WITHOUT paying a big time forward big time money then I don't know what he's smoking. And I don't want to hear the "we have tp take care of PK" line either. Berg had a chance to do that 2 years ago as well. So we're not going to sign Vanek, but we'll bring back Gionta, we'll take our draft pick, we'll look to add depth.... same old same old. Why would we want a guy that can give you 30 goals and around 75-80 points? It doesn't have to be Vanek but it has to be somebody. That PC just pissed me off. Or maybe he doesn't feel like he should have to show all his cards. Maybe there is something about Vanek that isn't all that appealing and he doesn't want to hurt Vanek's chances of getting a contract. Would Vanek help us during the season:yes. Playoffs: Possibly. He would not be our franchise forward. Galchenyuk will be. Can't have both on the team at high pay. When Galchenyuk asks for his pay raise and MB can't fit him under cap because this year he decided to open the vault for Vanek we'll all be asking for his head. MB has a plan, he is following through with it regardless of last years results. We're not a Vanek away from the cup.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2014 17:21:19 GMT -5
Doesn't have cap room my ass. We have 16 million of cap space and 18 players under contract. If we sign Subban to 8 million, and let Gionta walk. We have 8 million to sign Eller , a Vanek type player, and a defenseman It's tight, but doable if we move some chairs on the deck
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Post by Cranky on Jun 26, 2014 17:22:14 GMT -5
Said he doesn’t have cap room for Vanek and knew it when he acquired him. He was acquired specifically to make the playoffs. All other UFAs (Bouillon, Weaver, Gionta) door isn’t closed. Not sure I buy the "we don't have cap room" argument in the case of Vanek. Name me one contending franchise that doesn't have at least one forward making over $5 million. As of today, Plekanec is our higest paid forward at $5m, followed by Pacioretty at $4.5m and FREAKING DANNY BRIERE at $4m. It makes me sick that Berg is making that excuse. Then why did you sign Briere? Why did you extend Travis Moen? Why don't you let Gionta walk? If Berg thinks he can put together a contending roster WITHOUT paying a big time forward big time money then I don't know what he's smoking. And I don't want to hear the "we have tp take care of PK" line either. Berg had a chance to do that 2 years ago as well. So we're not going to sign Vanek, but we'll bring back Gionta, we'll take our draft pick, we'll look to add depth.... same old same old. Why would we want a guy that can give you 30 goals and around 75-80 points? It doesn't have to be Vanek but it has to be somebody. That PC just pissed me off. We do have cap room. If you give me the choice of Gionta or Vanish within a million of each other, I take Vanek. On the other hand, it could be a disaster if Vanish lives up to that moniker for several years Something tells me that there is more then meets the eye with Vanek. Something along the lines of "I don't care" which would be poison with MB.
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Post by christrpn on Jun 26, 2014 17:23:12 GMT -5
Doesn't have cap room my ass. We have 16 million of cap space and 18 players under contract. If we sign Subban to 8 million, and let Gionta walk. We have 8 million to sign Eller , a Vanek type player, and a defenseman It's tight, but doable if we move some chairs on the deck Then we have no room at the deadline if we need to pick up that one player that might take us over the top. 16-8=8-2(eller)=6. Mighty slim pickins if you want Vanek AND a defender.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2014 17:24:07 GMT -5
Not sure I buy the "we don't have cap room" argument in the case of Vanek. Name me one contending franchise that doesn't have at least one forward making over $5 million. As of today, Plekanec is our higest paid forward at $5m, followed by Pacioretty at $4.5m and FREAKING DANNY BRIERE at $4m. It makes me sick that Berg is making that excuse. Then why did you sign Briere? Why did you extend Travis Moen? Why don't you let Gionta walk? If Berg thinks he can put together a contending roster WITHOUT paying a big time forward big time money then I don't know what he's smoking. And I don't want to hear the "we have tp take care of PK" line either. Berg had a chance to do that 2 years ago as well. So we're not going to sign Vanek, but we'll bring back Gionta, we'll take our draft pick, we'll look to add depth.... same old same old. Why would we want a guy that can give you 30 goals and around 75-80 points? It doesn't have to be Vanek but it has to be somebody. That PC just pissed me off. Or maybe he doesn't feel like he should have to show all his cards. Maybe there is something about Vanek that isn't all that appealing and he doesn't want to hurt Vanek's chances of getting a contract. Would Vanek help us during the season:yes. Playoffs: Possibly. He would not be our franchise forward. Galchenyuk will be. Can't have both on the team at high pay. When Galchenyuk asks for his pay raise and MB can't fit him under cap because this year he decided to open the vault for Vanek we'll all be asking for his head. MB has a plan, he is following through with it regardless of last years results. We're not a Vanek away from the cup. I disagree with the last comment. While we may not have won, with a healthy Price and an offensive threat we are a Finals team. I'd take my chances against LA with Price and a Vanek
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2014 17:28:25 GMT -5
We have 16 million of cap space and 18 players under contract. If we sign Subban to 8 million, and let Gionta walk. We have 8 million to sign Eller , a Vanek type player, and a defenseman It's tight, but doable if we move some chairs on the deck Then we have no room at the deadline if we need to pick up that one player that might take us over the top. 16-8=8-2(eller)=6. Mighty slim pickins if you want Vanek AND a defender. Not really If we sign another Weaver-type;( hey why not the Weaver we have?) for 1.5 million. But the mistake Bergevin has made is Briere, and in my opinion Markov. That's almost 10 million tied up in guys on their last legs. Bergevin also could trade Plekanec, which would free up money
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2014 17:39:12 GMT -5
We have 16 million of cap space and 18 players under contract. If we sign Subban to 8 million, and let Gionta walk. We have 8 million to sign Eller , a Vanek type player, and a defenseman It's tight, but doable if we move some chairs on the deck Then we have no room at the deadline if we need to pick up that one player that might take us over the top. 16-8=8-2(eller)=6. Mighty slim pickins if you want Vanek AND a defender. $3 million in cap space (hypothetically) gets you more player the later in the season you acquire, so there is theoretically more room at the dead line.
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