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Post by Cranky on Sept 25, 2014 2:00:46 GMT -5
I'm looking at buying a certain machine and i came across one recently, but....
I phone this person and he tells me that he bought the machine new. When i went to see the machine, he is recalling more details as to when he bought (2005), the names of the oprators through the years, how it made faboules products, heck, i got an encyclopedia of a rundown of it's history over the last 9 years. As i was waiting for the machine to warm up, he talked none stop.
In one of the pictures i took, i got the machines serial number.
I checked it on the internet.
He bought it last year.....at an auction.
I expect people to lie to a certain degree....but i never met anyone who created an extensive, hours worth of detail web of lies for nothing.
WHY? Did i just meet my first real con man? Or someone with mental issues?
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 25, 2014 12:19:36 GMT -5
First, it depends on whether or not this guy has a shady reputation.
His spiel may also have been a sign of desperation….ANYTHING to sell that machine. Desperate times….
Was the history of the machine true or fabricated?
If it was true, I doubt it would sway any prospective buyer away if he told the complete truth.
"I bought this machine at auction in 2005….and I researched it fully before bidding. Here's what I found out….."
That's it.
But if it's all a lie….he's either desperate or devoid of ethics.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 25, 2014 14:56:11 GMT -5
But if it's all a lie….he's either desperate or devoid of ethics. It's ALL a lie. Even if someone is desperate, this is an expensive machine, not a pair of shoes, it's normal to check the history from t he manufacturer and if there are any liens on the machine. Any one of those would render a web of lies as just that. I can see why these guys can be effective con man. I was genuinely surprised when I saw it on the web. I actually bought what he said.....except for the ever present cynic in me. The bottom of the barrel of humanity is pretty ugly..... *sigh* |
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 25, 2014 17:46:28 GMT -5
But if it's all a lie….he's either desperate or devoid of ethics. It's ALL a lie. Even if someone is desperate, this is an expensive machine, not a pair of shoes, it's normal to check the history from t he manufacturer and if there are any liens on the machine. Any one of those would render a web of lies as just that. I can see why these guys can be effective con man. I was genuinely surprised when I saw it on the web. I actually bought what he said.....except for the ever present cynic in me. The bottom of the barrel of humanity is pretty ugly..... *sigh* Yep, he thought he could put one past you. The fact that it's an expensive machine is what I was talking about in terms of being desperate. Perhaps he's completely strapped and NEEDS to unload it, so he felt he had to lie. Chances are, if the lies came as easy to him as you reported, then it's his usual MO. Some people have definitely checked out of the Hotel Integrity. Always best to check out things like that….skepticism, cynicism….all good. The types of lies and reasons for them form a wide spectrum….from the "harmless" and the "necessary"….to the "I don't want to get caught"….to the "compulsive/habitual"….to the "sociopathic". |
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Post by GNick99 on Sept 25, 2014 18:11:00 GMT -5
I'm looking at buying a certain machine and i came across one recently, but.... I phone this person and he tells me that he bought the machine new. When i went to see the machine, he is recalling more details as to when he bought (2005), the names of the oprators through the years, how it made faboules products, heck, i got an encyclopedia of a rundown of it's history over the last 9 years. As i was waiting for the machine to warm up, he talked none stop. In one of the pictures i took, i got the machines serial number. I checked it on the internet. He bought it last year.....at an auction. I expect people to lie to a certain degree....but i never met anyone who created an extensive, hours worth of detail web of lies for nothing. WHY? Did i just meet my first real con man? Or someone with mental issues? It's all about the $$$$ |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 25, 2014 23:13:47 GMT -5
As i was waiting for the machine to warm up, he talked none stop. "The longer the explanation the bigger the lie." - Chinese proverb. Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Sept 26, 2014 12:08:26 GMT -5
Greed, fear, sociopathic tendencies; they all are reasons.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 26, 2014 12:17:53 GMT -5
Greed, fear, sociopathic tendencies; they all are reasons. Then, again, the guy could just be a putz ... Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 26, 2014 23:01:49 GMT -5
I like simpler answers. He's an ass and he should be slapped silly.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 27, 2014 2:43:05 GMT -5
Putz...ass....a-hole...all of the above....
But what really annoyed me is that he had me sold on the story. He was good enough that he built on everything I wanted to hear. His tailoring was probably the first time that anyone sold me enough that I now have a bit more appreciation and empathy for those who fall for this kind of crap. I could easily imagine someone like him selling his garbage to an elderly couple and defrauding them of everything they own.
Next time I hear about the little old couple and their lost fortune....I want to see a lot more jail time for the con man then the wrist slapping "non-violent white collar crime".
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