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Post by BadCompany on Jan 14, 2015 9:19:53 GMT -5
So British Prime Minister David Cameron thinks that ALL forms of correspondence should be viewable by government officials. "Are we going to allow a means of communications which it simply isn't possible to read?" Cameron said Monday. "My answer to that question is: 'No, we must not.'"Basically he wants to ban iMessages, which are texting apps available with iPhones, though of course every brand of phone has their own versions. Blackberry had this issue a few years back when noted bastions of freedom and democracy like China and Saudia Arabia refused to allow Blackberries to be sold in their countries if there was no way to read what the citizens were typing on them. On the one hand, apps like these prevent law enforcement officials from being able to read what was texted, even with a warrant, but on the other hand, the optics... I mean, could he have been a little more tactful in his delivery? My personal belief is that privacy is dead. The next generations don't care about it, and the older generations are swayed by fear (Patriot Act). I don't agree with it, I don't think the slope we are on is a good one, but I also think we are too far down it to come back. Governments can, and will be allowed to see everything and anything that you do. money.cnn.com/2015/01/13/technology/security/cameron-messaging-data/index.html |
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Post by franko on Jan 14, 2015 9:47:17 GMT -5
privacy? what's that? private FB pages are viewable [see: Dalhousie U dentistry students, though what were they thinking, posting that anyway?] the next generations? the current generation, which takes pictures and videos of everything done and posts them on FB, texts them out, and then cries because the wrong person saw them. what year is it? |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 14, 2015 10:04:52 GMT -5
(Patriot Act) ... Governments can, and will be allowed to see everything and anything that you do. We have something like the Patriot Act ... see Bill C-36 Canadian Anti-Terrorism Act ... Cheers. |
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Post by franko on Jan 14, 2015 10:10:27 GMT -5
playing on fear seems to work . . .
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 14, 2015 10:39:00 GMT -5
playing on fear seems to work . . . Absolutely ... make people afraid of it and tell them who's responsible for it ... it's not only an effective control tool, it's also an effective marketing ploy ... by the way, I wonder how many people actually know about Bill C-36 ... Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 14, 2015 13:28:18 GMT -5
(Patriot Act) ... Governments can, and will be allowed to see everything and anything that you do. We have something like the Patriot Act ... see Bill C-36 Canadian Anti-Terrorism Act ... Cheers. I'm not going to take Wiki comment as anything valid. Anyone and his dog can add their two cents there. |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 14, 2015 13:34:45 GMT -5
So British Prime Minister David Cameron thinks that ALL forms of correspondence should be viewable by government officials. "Are we going to allow a means of communications which it simply isn't possible to read?" Cameron said Monday. "My answer to that question is: 'No, we must not.'"Basically he wants to ban iMessages, which are texting apps available with iPhones, though of course every brand of phone has their own versions. Blackberry had this issue a few years back when noted bastions of freedom and democracy like China and Saudia Arabia refused to allow Blackberries to be sold in their countries if there was no way to read what the citizens were typing on them. On the one hand, apps like these prevent law enforcement officials from being able to read what was texted, even with a warrant, but on the other hand, the optics... I mean, could he have been a little more tactful in his delivery? My personal belief is that privacy is dead. The next generations don't care about it, and the older generations are swayed by fear (Patriot Act). I don't agree with it, I don't think the slope we are on is a good one, but I also think we are too far down it to come back. Governments can, and will be allowed to see everything and anything that you do. money.cnn.com/2015/01/13/technology/security/cameron-messaging-data/index.htmlWell, what can I say. I've never trusted government of any time, even when they screamed how well meaning they are. A gun at ones head at 13 kind of leaves an permanent impression. My worst fear of privacy is playing out and by the time I'm ready to push daisies, I fully expect thought moderation chips. For our own good. To stop pedophiles. To stop terrorists. For our own good. |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 14, 2015 13:44:34 GMT -5
privacy? what's that? private FB pages are viewable [see: Dalhousie U dentistry students, though what were they thinking, posting that anyway?] the next generations? the current generation, which takes pictures and videos of everything done and posts them on FB, texts them out, and then cries because the wrong person saw them. what year is it? You are soooo behind the times. You might as well know that I joined the new generation. Now I'm on twitter and have 1 tweet. Yes sir. One tweet. This year, I'm going to reach two tweets. Two. If not this year, by next year for sure! I'm not sure what kind of IQ level it takes to not understand that the more one is "connected", the more one reveals about themselves. Any expectations of privacy is lunacy. If corporations who hire the best IT people on the planet can not insure security, why on earth are people expecting anything more? |
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Post by Polarice on Jan 14, 2015 13:53:49 GMT -5
I don't really care if the government reads my text messages or emails.....unless you are planning to bomb some place we really have nothing to worry about. Companies have been reading the emails and texts from their employees for years.
And when the crap does come down, the government is going to be the last thing on our minds....it's going to be everyone for themselves.
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Post by franko on Jan 14, 2015 14:49:40 GMT -5
privacy? what's that? private FB pages are viewable [see: Dalhousie U dentistry students, though what were they thinking, posting that anyway?] the next generations? the current generation, which takes pictures and videos of everything done and posts them on FB, texts them out, and then cries because the wrong person saw them. what year is it? You are soooo behind the times. You might as well know that I joined the new generation. Now I'm on twitter and have 1 tweet. Yes sir. One tweet. This year, I'm going to reach two tweets. Two. If not this year, by next year for sure! I'm not sure what kind of IQ level it takes to not understand that the more one is "connected", the more one reveals about themselves. Any expectations of privacy is lunacy. If corporations who hire the best IT people on the planet can not insure security, why on earth are people expecting anything more? you had better be very careful . . . everyone but MT follows what is said on HabsRus and pays attention to it. |
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Post by franko on Jan 14, 2015 14:53:57 GMT -5
I don't really care if the government reads my text messages or emails.....unless you are planning to bomb some place we really have nothing to worry about. Companies have been reading the emails and texts from their employees for years. And when the crap does come down, the government is going to be the last thing on our minds....it's going to be everyone for themselves. interestingly enough, I agree. there may be an expectation of some sort of privacy, but we throw so much of our personal information "out there" that we just as easily give it back. be careful what you say and where you go and people can dig all they want, they won't find anything worth knowing. of course, I am an innocent. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 15, 2015 15:12:20 GMT -5
I'm not going to take Wiki comment as anything valid. Anyone and his dog can add their two cents there. True enough old friend, but at the same time their content is validated ... I'd question the validity of findings that don't come with references; however, Wikipedia is almost as accurate as Encyclopedia Britannica ... it's actually not too bad, more so when you figure how far they've come since Jan. 15, 2001 ... Cheers. |
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