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Post by blny on May 30, 2015 20:26:09 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say Perry and Getz, and co are psyched out. Maroon's tip best chance so far. That 07 team that won was lead by Selanne. Getzlaf and Perry had great playoffs, but they were kids. As the focal points, and leaders, they haven't been able to take that step. Toews and Kane are cool as cucumbers. Nothing seems to phase them.
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Post by seventeen on May 30, 2015 20:41:42 GMT -5
I think they honestly have a blind man in TO, judging those kicking goals. Hossa gets credit for a goal that is as clearly kicked in as one you'll ever see. But TO says its good. Do they have Sepp Blatter in the video review chair?
PS. I figured out the criteria. There was no kicking tee at the scene, so they declared it a good goal.
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Post by blny on May 30, 2015 20:46:08 GMT -5
Johnson, for CBC, was giving lots of explanation as to why it should be disallowed. Then, it's good. Apparently, the already confusing rule is going to made less confusing by allowing just about anything off a skate in regardless of how. "They're all good, doesn't matter."
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Post by blny on May 30, 2015 20:47:49 GMT -5
Also, was Gretz there for previous Ducks games or is he just gracing them with his presence for game 7? Should have denied him entry lol.
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Post by seventeen on May 30, 2015 21:26:38 GMT -5
Hot tip for everyone. Put everything you've got on the Lightning. Almost without fail, every team I've been hoping to win a series has lost. (the Habs/Sens series was an exception). I'd rather the Hawks win the next one, which is their kiss of death. You heard it here first.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 21:35:29 GMT -5
The Bolts seem to have more offensive depth, but Kane and Toews are a one-two punch whereas Tampa in that case just has Stamkos.
It won't be a goaltender's duel, that's for sure.
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Post by blny on May 30, 2015 21:59:31 GMT -5
I'm hoping for the Hawks. Might be a kiss of death. I like their experience as a group, and the clutch play that Toews and Kane display. Add Hossa, Saad, Keith, and the rest ... I think that wins.
Both teams like to skate. Should be a fairly open series I think.
No Hawks appear willing to touch the trophy, but they're all posing around it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 22:05:47 GMT -5
I'm hoping for the Hawks. Might be a kiss of death. I like their experience as a group, and the clutch play that Toews and Kane display. Add Hossa, Saad, Keith, and the rest ... I think that wins. Both teams like to skate. Should be a fairly open series I think. No Hawks appear willing to touch the trophy, but they're all posing around it. Chicago's third cup final in 6 seasons. Wow. |
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Post by franko on May 30, 2015 22:35:32 GMT -5
Chicago's third cup final in 6 seasons. Wow. as close to a dynasty as you can come these days. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 31, 2015 4:52:25 GMT -5
The Blackhawks have certainly benefitted the most from poor finishes….specifically in selecting Toews in the 06 draft, and Kane in 07.
From 1998-99 to 2007-08, they made the playoffs only once (2001-02) and lost in Round 1. That's 9 seasons of abysmal hockey for their fans. But for the 04-05 lockout, it likely would've been 10 seasons.
They won the Cup in Kane's 3rd year….and really haven't looked back since.
Certainly, their builders deserve kudos for strong player development, and astute building via trades to support their young stars.
I remember more than a few derogatory comments when Denis Savard was ousted in favour of Joel Quenneville after 4 games of the 08-09 season….i.e. walking into a ready-made juggernaut…..but Quenneville has certainly been a key factor.
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Post by jkr on May 31, 2015 7:20:36 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say Perry and Getz, and co are psyched out. Maroon's tip best chance so far. That 07 team that won was lead by Selanne. Getzlaf and Perry had great playoffs, but they were kids. As the focal points, and leaders, they haven't been able to take that step. Toews and Kane are cool as cucumbers. Nothing seems to phase them. Talking heads were saying that the Ducks have now lost 3 straight game sevens at home. Teams knock themselves out for home ice ( see Rangers) but at least this year, isn't a big advantage. |
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Post by jkr on May 31, 2015 7:24:38 GMT -5
The Blackhawks have certainly benefitted the most from poor finishes….specifically in selecting Toews in the 06 draft, and Kane in 07. From 1998-99 to 2007-08, they made the playoffs only once (2001-02) and lost in Round 1. That's 9 seasons of abysmal hockey for their fans. But for the 04-05 lockout, it likely would've been 10 seasons. They won the Cup in Kane's 3rd year….and really haven't looked back since. Certainly, their builders deserve kudos for strong player development, and astute building via trades to support their young stars. I remember more than a few derogatory comments when Denis Savard was ousted in favour of Joel Quenneville after 4 games of the 08-09 season….i.e. walking into a ready-made juggernaut…..but Quenneville has certainly been a key factor. Agreed. Some smart trades were made (Sharp, Oduya, Rosival) and some astute picks ( Andrew Shaw in the 5th round). Bowman had to make moves to get under the cap but this team is a contender every season. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 1, 2015 10:11:24 GMT -5
3rd Stanley Cup appearance in the last 6 years. 5 trips to the conference finals in the past 7 years.
I'm jealous.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 1, 2015 10:48:49 GMT -5
3rd Stanley Cup appearance in the last 6 years. 5 trips to the conference finals in the past 7 years. I'm jealous. It seems every year, someone says the Hawks are in CAP trouble, which usually means a drop-off (see Boston: Bruins, for exhibit A), but Bowman manages to get them through and each year they squeeze under the CAP and their bottom 6 works out ok. This year, perhaps, the bottom 6 is not as strong as in previous years, but their top 6 is certainly making up for it. I'm curious to see how Tampa handles Toews and Kane. Up until now, the only team they have faced who's had a truly elite player who can break down defenses is Detroit. That player would be Datsyuk and he gave the Lightning fits. Kane has that elite level offensive skill and Toews is a different kind of beast that beats you various ways. It will probably be Tampa's biggest test and if they can solve it, they will be deserving winners. Tampa's defense is going to be tested as they haven't been yet. The Hawks are good on both sides of centre. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 1, 2015 10:53:33 GMT -5
3rd Stanley Cup appearance in the last 6 years. 5 trips to the conference finals in the past 7 years. I'm jealous. It's that Scotty Bowman magic.  |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 2, 2015 10:17:49 GMT -5
The Hawks and Oilers are an interesting contrast. Both sucked for a while, but the Hawks sucked when it was worthwhile, or made an especially astute pick or got a bit lucky when teams before them picked players who didn't quite turn out as well as expected.
2006 - Toews #3. Chosen ahead...Erik Johnson and Jordan Staal. Just behind...Nicklas Backstrom and Phil Kessel.
2007 - Patrick Kane #1, Players chose just after....JVR, Kyle Turris, Thomas Hickey.
Oilers
2010 TAylor Hall #1. Right after came Tyler Seguin, Gudbranson, Ryan Johansen and Nino Neiderreiter.
2011 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Then Gabriel Landeskog, Jonathan Huburdeau, Adam Larsson and Ryan Strome
2012 Nail Yakupov, Ryan Murray, Galchenyuk, Griffin Reinhart and Morgan Reilly.
Chicago made a good pick in 2006 and thankfully Johnson and Staal were off the table. Would they have chosen Toews if they had the first pick? Who knows?
In 2007, Kane was the consensus 1st pick, with no one else close.
Edmonton made a decent pick with Hall, and it's unfortunate he's been injured as much as he has been, but good choice. Then they get to draft first in two years where there aren't any generational players. That changes this year.
Or take Tampa, where they got STamkos and then Hedman. The Stamkos year was very strong. In the Hedman year, Tavares and Hedman were the top two consensus picks. After them came Duchene, Evander Kane and Brayden Schenn.
Sometimes it's just luck and opportunity. We capitalized in 2005 when we got the 5th overall choice, with Carey. In 2012 when we had the 3rd overall pick, it was not a strong draft year. Hopefully Galchy turns out ok, but there have been stronger draft years and we didn't hit one of those.
I think this one pick of Edmonton's (McDavid) and Buffalo (Eichel) will have more impact than any of our recent choices. It matters when to suck.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 2, 2015 10:57:39 GMT -5
Yeah it pays when to suck, but to not even come close to making the playoffs after getting three straight #1 picks is the new NHL definition of epic management sucking.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 2, 2015 12:45:26 GMT -5
I was never a fan of Kevin Lowe as a manager. He lived off the existing base for a few years, but then the decline is quite evident. It's so important to get the right guy at the top, because everything flows from there. I'm happy with the way things are changing in the world of Canadian NHL teams. The Canucks, Oilers, Flames and Jets all have what appears to be good management teams in place, so I expect to see a lot more Canadian teams moving up in the standings and the Cup rounds. Ottawa has a self imposed CAP that will hurt them. The Leafs? God knows what's going on there.
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Post by franko on Jun 2, 2015 13:18:11 GMT -5
The Leafs? God knows what's going on there. no, even s/He doesn't. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 2, 2015 13:42:07 GMT -5
The Leafs? God knows what's going on there. no, even s/He doesn't. They probably do, and are enjoying the show so much more as a result. |
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Post by franko on Jun 2, 2015 14:58:54 GMT -5
They probably do, and are enjoying the show so much more as a result. oh, so I guess it's only the Leaf management that doesn't know what is going on |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 3, 2015 19:36:26 GMT -5
I see that the finals is going to be the Tampa Bay Lightning fan club as far as HNIC is concerned. Nothing but awesome things about Tampa and how they're doing everything better than Chicago.
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Post by blny on Jun 3, 2015 19:43:32 GMT -5
Same colours as Leafs, both cities start with T. They're confused.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 3, 2015 20:02:37 GMT -5
Too bad a flash/bang couldn't go off in their booth so they'd all have to be replaced for the rest of the game. (that's the softer, kinder, me)  |
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Post by franko on Jun 3, 2015 20:09:44 GMT -5
Same colours as Leafs, both cities start with T. They're confused. funny, I tweeted basically the same thing to SN. went over to NBC, where it's Healy, McGuire, and mots in the intermission. I'll catch the score in the morning. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 3, 2015 20:16:09 GMT -5
Now that Seabrook's having a great playoffs....Cherry says (paraphrased), "Why he isn't considered in the Norris with (or instead of) all the SWEETHEARTS is beyond me! He's the best defenceman in the league!"
So...Subban, Doughty and Karlsson are "sweethearts". Until they have a great playoff, that is....
As always, Cherry associates himself with someone riding high. So transparent....
Was Doughty a sweetheart at the Olympics...or during last year's playoffs when the Kings eliminated Seabrook's team in Round 3, then went on to win the Cup?
Somehow, I don't think so....
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Post by seventeen on Jun 3, 2015 20:32:25 GMT -5
Don't be to hard on him, CH. Dementia, ya know. Pretty soon, he'll start getting aggressive with McLean as the paranoia sets in. Then, maybe, we'll have a good fight on Coach's Corner.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 3, 2015 20:46:18 GMT -5
He doesn't have dementia. He's been like that since Day 1 on the air. Coach's Corner is nothing but a microcosm of his MO...which has an extended version in his Rock'em Sock'em videos. He takes great plays, goals, saves, checks, and fights....and associates himself with them by saying things like, "That's my kinda guy, right there!" and "When I was coachin' the Bruins, I used to tell the guys to do this all the time..."And we all know how accurate his recounting of history has been....  As far as MacLean is concerned, he started the segment by stroking Cherry's ego....once again. He sold out long ago. As we saw with the seal burger issue, he'll even find excuses for Cherry's inappropriate comments. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 3, 2015 21:31:51 GMT -5
Nice 1-4 by Tampa in the third period. What was an exciting game from them became a New Jersey Devils game from 2003.
No shots....halfway through.
I hope it backfires.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 3, 2015 21:38:05 GMT -5
Yes! Hawks tie it with just over 6:00 to go!
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