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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 19, 2015 13:50:34 GMT -5
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Post by Gogie on Apr 19, 2015 21:36:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't have been devastated if the Habs had lost tonight but it sure would have made for a long 3 days until the next game. Thankfully I can relax and savour the moment for all of those 3 days! BTW, you're doing a great job on the GDT's, Dis. Hope you have lots more to do before the season's done!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 21, 2015 10:50:30 GMT -5
Thanks Gogie ... there are a few themes to each thread ... I saw CH's post in the "nostalgia" thread and thought it would be a good theme to use ... each game thread will have a different Stanley Cup year to it ... I've also tried to include 24 Cups in each thread ... just started using the HHOF busts, as well ... if I used a player in the thread, he gets added to the top ... I don't have Game 5 started yet ... hoping they wrap it up on Wednesday ... a tough task, but I think if we can keep the game tied, or even take a lead into the 3rd period, the Senators may strike their tents at that point ... as for the GDTs just let me know it there's anything you, or anyone else for that matter, would like to see in them and I'll see what I can do ...
Cheers.
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Post by HabSolute on Apr 21, 2015 10:53:16 GMT -5
Habs just confirmed that Nathan Beaulieu is out for the rest of the first round.
Pateryn ? Gonchar ? I assume they will go with young legs and size ?....
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Post by Polarice on Apr 21, 2015 11:06:04 GMT -5
Pateryn is in. It's all over Wednesday night!!
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 21, 2015 11:14:16 GMT -5
But….it was a clean it…..
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 21, 2015 11:38:50 GMT -5
But….it was a clean it….. Yeah, the league has an answer for everything. Cheers.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2015 11:53:10 GMT -5
I hope Pateryn does a "Jimmy Hayes" on Mark Stone.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 21, 2015 13:26:48 GMT -5
But….it was a clean it….. I should put this in the "questionable officiating" thread ... but it goes good here. This has been THE absolute worst refereed playoffs in the post lock-out era. These playoffs are getting pretty similar to the 1980s type playoffs. For a league that claims to have cut down on head shots, I offer the following: 1) Ryan Kesler elbows Tyler Myers in the head 2) Dan Hamhuis hits Sam Bennett in the head (blindside) 3) Carl Hagelin clips Sidney Crosby in the head/chest 4) Erik Karlsson creams Nathan Beaulieu directly in the head 5) Patrick Weircioch cross checks PK Subban in the head. None of the above got suspended, and I think a penalty was only called on two of them. Hamhuis got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler's was more predatory because minutes prior to his hit, Tyler Myers high sticked him, and he sought retribution. The highstick by Myers was called a penalty Another to be added, but wasnt a head shot, but most certainly there were suspensions in the past for, was the cross check to the back of Plekanec about 2 feet from the boards.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2015 13:36:54 GMT -5
But….it was a clean it….. I should put this in the "questionable officiating" thread ... but it goes good here. This has been THE absolute worst refereed playoffs in the post lock-out era. These playoffs are getting pretty similar to the 1980s type playoffs. For a league that claims to have cut down on head shots, I offer the following: 1) Ryan Kesler elbows Tyler Myers in the head 2) Dan Hamhuis hits Sam Bennett in the head (blindside) 3) Carl Hagelin clips Sidney Crosby in the head/chest 4) Erik Karlsson creams Nathan Beaulieu directly in the head 5) Mark Borowiecki cross checks PK Subban in the head. None of the above got suspended, and I think a penalty was only called on two of them. Hamhuis got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler's was more predatory because minutes prior to his hit, Tyler Myers high sticked him, and he sought retribution. The highstick by Myers was called a penalty Another to be added, but wasnt a head shot, but most certainly there were suspensions in the past for, was the cross check to the back of Plekanec about 2 feet from the boards. I thought it was weircock the cross checked PK in the head?
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2015 13:39:57 GMT -5
According to John Lu on twitter
I wouldn't mind Gilbert with Peteryn and Petry with Emelin, this way we have a hitter in each pairing, but I think they will do fine.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 21, 2015 15:07:48 GMT -5
I should put this in the "questionable officiating" thread ... but it goes good here. This has been THE absolute worst refereed playoffs in the post lock-out era. These playoffs are getting pretty similar to the 1980s type playoffs. For a league that claims to have cut down on head shots, I offer the following: 1) Ryan Kesler elbows Tyler Myers in the head 2) Dan Hamhuis hits Sam Bennett in the head (blindside) 3) Carl Hagelin clips Sidney Crosby in the head/chest 4) Erik Karlsson creams Nathan Beaulieu directly in the head 5) Mark Borowiecki cross checks PK Subban in the head. None of the above got suspended, and I think a penalty was only called on two of them. Hamhuis got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler's was more predatory because minutes prior to his hit, Tyler Myers high sticked him, and he sought retribution. The highstick by Myers was called a penalty Another to be added, but wasnt a head shot, but most certainly there were suspensions in the past for, was the cross check to the back of Plekanec about 2 feet from the boards. I thought it was weircock the cross checked PK in the head? Could have been .... I'll edit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 17:30:52 GMT -5
Chrissy Neil and his buddies better keep their heads up against that third pairing
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 21, 2015 19:12:09 GMT -5
Chrissy Neil and his buddies better keep their heads up against that third pairing Right on. Still waiting for Emelin to lay somebody out. Pateryn can do the same....as long as he doesn't take himself out of position to do so.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2015 20:59:56 GMT -5
Chrissy Neil and his buddies better keep their heads up against that third pairing Right on. Still waiting for Emelin to lay somebody out. Pateryn can do the same....as long as he doesn't take himself out of position to do so. When Emelin hits someone along the boards and really gets them, I half expect to see something like Wile E. Coyote after he's fallen from another mesa. I wonder if Emelin uses any Acme products?
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 22, 2015 0:27:50 GMT -5
But….it was a clean it….. I should put this in the "questionable officiating" thread ... but it goes good here. This has been THE absolute worst refereed playoffs in the post lock-out era. These playoffs are getting pretty similar to the 1980s type playoffs. For a league that claims to have cut down on head shots, I offer the following: 1) Ryan Kesler elbows Tyler Myers in the head 2) Dan Hamhuis hits Sam Bennett in the head (blindside) 3) Carl Hagelin clips Sidney Crosby in the head/chest 4) Erik Karlsson creams Nathan Beaulieu directly in the head 5) Patrick Weircioch cross checks PK Subban in the head. None of the above got suspended, and I think a penalty was only called on two of them. Hamhuis got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler got an illegal check to the head penalty. Kesler's was more predatory because minutes prior to his hit, Tyler Myers high sticked him, and he sought retribution. The highstick by Myers was called a penalty Another to be added, but wasnt a head shot, but most certainly there were suspensions in the past for, was the cross check to the back of Plekanec about 2 feet from the boards. Agree whole heartedly with the poor reffing. No consistency and many missed or no calls. Refs ,I will cut some slack as it happens fast. But the League gets to review it on video and the illegal hits to the head are blatant, yet no sanctions. Oh! And let's not forget Bufugly's head shot to Perry well after a goal. If that is not a deliberate blow to the head; or was that a hockey play gone bad?
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Post by Polarice on Apr 22, 2015 6:11:20 GMT -5
Chrissy Neil and his buddies better keep their heads up against that third pairing Right on. Still waiting for Emelin to lay somebody out. Pateryn can do the same....as long as he doesn't take himself out of position to do so. I've had hockey friends tell me that they never expected him to hit as hard as he does. It catches them off guard and it hurts, that's why you see players get pissed off at him.....now teammates warn each other to keep their head up when he's on the ice.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 22, 2015 7:00:29 GMT -5
The Hens are putting in Zack Smith and Ottawa Radio is saying Pleky has been abusing Turris and that Smith will straighten Pleky out.
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 22, 2015 7:18:27 GMT -5
I expect the Sens to come out hard again tonight, like they did in the first period of the last game. Hitting everything in sight again. I don't know why, it hardly ever works, but there is still this perception that the Habs are a soft team and all you have to do is pound them through the boards and they will fold like cheap tents. Like I said, hardly ever works, but it seems to be the league-wide belief. Meanwhile, the team's that skate, like Tampa, the Rangers, and yes, Buffalo, they give us fits. But whatever. With any luck somebody will score a fluke, Bourque-like goal in the first couple of minutes to get the crowd out of it, and then maybe a second goal half-way through the period, perhaps on the power-play. That should take the wind out of their sails. A third goal to start the second period and the hitting will stop, and hopefully they can get out of the series without any other significant injuries. I want this over.
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Post by jkr on Apr 22, 2015 7:32:17 GMT -5
The Hens are putting in Zack Smith and Ottawa Radio is saying Pleky has been abusing Turris and that Smith will straighten Pleky out. I don't think I've seen such a bunch of whiners in the playoffs as Ottawa. Plekanec has been abusing Turris? And Zack Smith is going to fix this. Poor Turris need someone to look after him. Why don't they take a good hard look at themselves. They have 3 goals in the last 2 plus games. Karlsson, for the most part has been held in check. Ryan and Hoffman have been awful & Michalek isn't much better ( Markov scored that goal for him). Neil had no impact in the last game. They have been outshot and outscored. Their goaltending has been average. And the best they can come up with is Zack Smith. Really?? They start up all this irrelevant crap so they won't have to talk about their teams failures.
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Post by jkr on Apr 22, 2015 7:34:32 GMT -5
I expect the Sens to come out hard again tonight, like they did in the first period of the last game. Hitting everything in sight again. I don't know why, it hardly ever works, but there is still this perception that the Habs are a soft team and all you have to do is pound them through the boards and they will fold like cheap tents. Like I said, hardly ever works, but it seems to be the league-wide belief. Your right - that stuff doesn't work. After the 1st period the shots were 40-22 MTL. They shot their bolt in and couldn't keep up the rest of the night.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 22, 2015 8:56:50 GMT -5
The Hens are putting in Zack Smith and Ottawa Radio is saying Pleky has been abusing Turris and that Smith will straighten Pleky out. I don't think I've seen such a bunch of whiners in the playoffs as Ottawa. Plekanec has been abusing Turris? And Zack Smith is going to fix this. Poor Turris need someone to look after him. Why don't they take a good hard look at themselves. They have 3 goals in the last 2 plus games. Karlsson, for the most part has been held in check. Ryan and Hoffman have been awful & Michalek isn't much better ( Markov scored that goal for him). Neil had no impact in the last game. They have been outshot and outscored. Their goaltending has been average. And the best they can come up with is Zack Smith. Really?? They start up all this irrelevant crap so they won't have to talk about their teams failures. Zack Smith is in the lineup for the same reason as Neil. To hurt someone. That's all Cameron has left.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 22, 2015 9:12:14 GMT -5
If we get up a few goals, I wonder if MT will call a timeout with a few minutes left in the game... Payback is a bee-otch.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 22, 2015 9:13:29 GMT -5
I don't think I've seen such a bunch of whiners in the playoffs as Ottawa. Plekanec has been abusing Turris? And Zack Smith is going to fix this. Poor Turris need someone to look after him. Why don't they take a good hard look at themselves. They have 3 goals in the last 2 plus games. Karlsson, for the most part has been held in check. Ryan and Hoffman have been awful & Michalek isn't much better ( Markov scored that goal for him). Neil had no impact in the last game. They have been outshot and outscored. Their goaltending has been average. And the best they can come up with is Zack Smith. Really?? They start up all this irrelevant crap so they won't have to talk about their teams failures. Zack Smith is in the lineup for the same reason as Neil. To hurt someone. That's all Cameron has left. I say if he comes hard at you and you see him, turtle and let him kiss the boards or side step him. That will make the Sens players and fans crazy.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 22, 2015 9:55:55 GMT -5
Turris has been instigating all the crap with Pleks. Unfortunately for Turris, Pleks is a wily veteran and has been winning the match up. I don't like Zach's chances any better.
We should be hitting Karlsen every chance. He likes to think he's tough but ultimately that's not his game. Get him off focus. But more importantly, i don't like guys who laugh on the bench after delivering a head shot, legal or otherwise. He should be in our sights for numerous reasons.
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Post by blny on Apr 22, 2015 10:25:10 GMT -5
Anderson to start.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 22, 2015 10:31:59 GMT -5
Turris has been instigating all the crap with Pleks. Unfortunately for Turris, Pleks is a wily veteran and has been winning the match up. I don't like Zach's chances any better. We should be hitting Karlsen every chance. He likes to think he's tough but ultimately that's not his game. Get him off focus. But more importantly, i don't like guys who laugh on the bench after delivering a head shot, legal or otherwise. He should be in our sights for numerous reasons. I think it might have been the CBC crew that mentioned Turris hacking Plekanec's calves after several faceoffs ... the Ottawa radio guys sound a bit like fans with a microphone and when he want to feel good about something they tend to refer to the 2013 playoffs ... I noticed it only a few times, but dumping the puck into Karlsson's corner and making him chase it every time is something the Flyers did successfully with Bobby Orr back in the day ... as for head shots, it almost looks like the league has changed their interpretations of what a head shot actually is, at least for these playoffs ... I wouldn't tempt fate, though ... if PK were to launch himself into one of those crushing open-ice checks he's been noted for, he'll probably be given 5 and a game, possible suspension looming ... yet it's open season on him ... seems to be the way it is ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 22, 2015 10:35:47 GMT -5
I expect the Sens to come out hard again tonight, like they did in the first period of the last game. Hitting everything in sight again. I don't know why, it hardly ever works, but there is still this perception that the Habs are a soft team and all you have to do is pound them through the boards and they will fold like cheap tents. Like I said, hardly ever works, but it seems to be the league-wide belief. Meanwhile, the team's that skate, like Tampa, the Rangers, and yes, Buffalo, they give us fits. But whatever. With any luck somebody will score a fluke, Bourque-like goal in the first couple of minutes to get the crowd out of it, and then maybe a second goal half-way through the period, perhaps on the power-play. That should take the wind out of their sails. A third goal to start the second period and the hitting will stop, and hopefully they can get out of the series without any other significant injuries. I want this over. As I was saying earlier, I think if les good guys can either take a lead or be tied going into the 3rd, they'd have a good chance at burying it ... an early goal would go a long way to taking the Ottawa crowd out of it, and if you've ever been to a Senators game you'll know that it's easy taking the fans out of a game ... didn't think we'd be here at this point to be honest ... Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 11:02:15 GMT -5
Turris has been instigating all the crap with Pleks. Unfortunately for Turris, Pleks is a wily veteran and has been winning the match up. I don't like Zach's chances any better. We should be hitting Karlsen every chance. He likes to think he's tough but ultimately that's not his game. Get him off focus. But more importantly, i don't like guys who laugh on the bench after delivering a head shot, legal or otherwise. He should be in our sights for numerous reasons. I think it might have been the CBC crew that mentioned Turris hacking Plekanec's calves after several faceoffs ... the Ottawa radio guys sound a bit like fans with a microphone and when he want to feel good about something they tend to refer to the 2013 playoffs ... I noticed it only a few times, but dumping the puck into Karlsson's corner and making him chase it every time is something the Flyers did successfully with Bobby Orr back in the day ... as for head shots, it almost looks like the league has changed their interpretations of what a head shot actually is, at least for these playoffs ... I wouldn't tempt fate, though ... if PK were to launch himself into one of those crushing open-ice checks he's been noted for, he'll probably be given 5 and a game, possible suspension looming ... yet it's open season on him ... seems to be the way it is ... Cheers. No kidding. Turris took a few shots at Pleks when the refs weren't looking. Tomas didn't react.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 22, 2015 12:54:27 GMT -5
Turris has been instigating all the crap with Pleks. Unfortunately for Turris, Pleks is a wily veteran and has been winning the match up. I don't like Zach's chances any better. We should be hitting Karlsen every chance. He likes to think he's tough but ultimately that's not his game. Get him off focus. But more importantly, i don't like guys who laugh on the bench after delivering a head shot, legal or otherwise. He should be in our sights for numerous reasons. I'm not sure about that (hitting Karlsson every chance). The last thing I want to do is play Ottawa's game. Yes, if the opportunity presents itself to hit someone really solidly, take it. Other than that, I'd focus more on getting in his way after he passes the puck. When you try to hit someone hard, you fully commit yourself, so any feint of Karlsson's to one side or the other can have you missing him. What's better, I think, is to partially commit yourself. You can't hit hard when you do that, but you can adjust your direction and still bump him, throwing off his skating and not allowing him to take a return pass and speed up the ice. That's much more harmful to the Ottawa offense. Course, if he's reaching back for a bad pass..... I'd sure like to finish them off today. I hate giving anyone life (in sports parlance). Let's get a few games rest to heal up all those microfractures on the team.
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