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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 26, 2015 15:57:08 GMT -5
As per Sportsnet ... the Kings 13th overall pick and G Martin Jones ... Bruins now have picks 13, 14, 15 ... edit: add prospect Collin Miller to Boston ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 15:59:58 GMT -5
Complete gut underway. Man. Jones is a quality back up waiting on a starting chance. Gotta think Subban or Rask are gone.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 26, 2015 16:06:19 GMT -5
Gotta think Subban or Rask are gone. Never thought about that ... could very well be ... I'm reading that it's possible the Kings will buy out Mike Richards now ... aside; I never thought Boston was in that much trouble ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 16:19:13 GMT -5
Yes, they were in trouble much of the year.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 16:21:28 GMT -5
Bruins retaining half of Lucic's cap hit next year to make it work financially
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2015 16:33:40 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see how lucy does out west. He doesn't like anyone getting physical with him. He gets pissy. We'll see what the big boys out west do to him.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 16:35:50 GMT -5
I'll miss the usual two dumb penalties a game he took. Guys like Maroon in Anaheim are gonna have a field day with him. Hell, Perry will too.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 17:32:00 GMT -5
Friedman is saying that Kings defensive prospect Colin Miller also went to Boston in deal.
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Post by 24in93 on Jun 26, 2015 21:54:28 GMT -5
I hated Milan Lucic, but will miss him being part of the heated rivalry.
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Post by blny on Jun 26, 2015 21:59:07 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I think some of what the Bruins did today is about a different kind of character. Discipline. Lucic cost them on a number of occasions by taking dumb penalties. He got so incensed that he'd get completely off his game. You can be physical and be smart. The Bruins weren't the latter when it came to playing us in particular.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 26, 2015 22:13:28 GMT -5
Doug Hamilton said he "wasn't comfortable in Boston". Boston offered him a long term deal, but it was apparent he wasn't happy in Boston. I can see that. He tried playing dirty, but it just wasn't his game
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 22:34:00 GMT -5
Doug Hamilton said he "wasn't comfortable in Boston". Boston offered him a long term deal, but it was apparent he wasn't happy in Boston. I can see that. He tried playing dirty, but it just wasn't his game Whining and lying in the media about spearing players seemed to be, though.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2015 23:30:18 GMT -5
Doug Hamilton said he "wasn't comfortable in Boston". Boston offered him a long term deal, but it was apparent he wasn't happy in Boston. I can see that. He tried playing dirty, but it just wasn't his game He could probably also see the writing on the wall that it will be 4 years before the Bruins are contenders again. They're in full blow up mode. Good thing they signed McQuaid for 4 more years (or whatever the length is). Unless they're entering the free agent market, the Bruins will comfortably miss the playoffs next year. Their D is their achilles heel. After an aging Chara, they have inconsistent Seidenberg. Krug, McQuaid, Kevan Miller and Matt Bartkowski. Woohoo. They've also lost Soderberg and Lucic up front, so while they're not great players, they're solid. Gonna be a long year for Bergeron. They had such an opportunity this year with those 3 picks and it's still really puzzling to see who they chose. Maybe they'll turn out much better than everyone expects, but Zboril was the only guy picked where expected, the others were all lower down on most lists. That's called wasting assets.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2015 3:43:05 GMT -5
Boston could have changed their franchise with those three picks. All I can say is wow.
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Post by franko on Jun 27, 2015 5:47:23 GMT -5
funny about the Bruins . . . especially after some of the talking heads suggested that this year was just a one-off.
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Post by duster on Jun 27, 2015 9:39:31 GMT -5
One of those odd decisions similar to them firing Chiarelli. I can see the logic of trading Lucic but Hamilton was their future franchise player, imo. I guess Neely didn't think he was Bruins type of player. The return the B's got for Kessel has essentially been frittered away.
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Post by PTH on Jun 27, 2015 9:55:06 GMT -5
One of those odd decisions similar to them firing Chiarelli. I can see the logic of trading Lucic but Hamilton was their future franchise player, imo. I guess Neely didn't think he was Bruins type of player. The return the B's got for Kessel has essentially been frittered away. I think they decided to move Hamilton, and decided to do it without taking any salary back. Once you have those parameters, it's not that bad a deal, though really they should've gotten more for him, unless his salary demands are really insane or if he has other issues that the general public doesn't know about.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2015 11:14:42 GMT -5
AS Gogie mentioned in another thread, I think the Bruins saw the writing that Hamilton was not a long time Bruin. Sweeney alluded to it in his comments. They made a good offer to him and he turned it down, not because of the amount. He just didn't like the organization, I think. Perhaps he saw that no matter who the GM is, there's probably interference from above and that wasn't going to change. No Cups in Hamilton's future if he remained a Bruin.
Now, as to Boston's game plan, I think they're doing the right thing. While the execution leaves something to be desired, the strategy is good. Chara's getting older, Bergeron has a lot of hard miles on his body, the farm system is bare and they were in CAP hell. Blowing it up is the right thing. I'd have kept Hamilton, but it appears that choice was being taken out of their hands as once he became a UFA, he was gone and it would take that long to build up the rest of the team. Rather than wait, move him now and get a kid who would mature at the right time. It's the deepest draft in 12 years, so go for it. I think Sweeney did ok, up until they had to step on the podium and make their selections. No one's criticizing Zboril, but Debrusk was a about 10 picks early and Zenyshyn was perhaps 25 picks early, if Central Scouting are to be believed. The kid doesn't look horrible, as he had 45 points in 66 games and was plus 30. Sault had a very high scoring team, though, and some of those stats might be padded by that fact. The Bruins act like they know something about him no one else does (Sweeney's comment was that "his name brings a twinkle to my scouts' eyes" - which is an odd phrase all in itself). I guess what has Bruins fans mad is that they could have traded down, gotten another 2nd rounder perhaps and still picked Zenyshyn. Which is probably true.
So they may have gotten the big picture right, but, to use another old cliche, the fact is the devil is always in the details.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 27, 2015 16:09:46 GMT -5
If I'm a Bruins fan I'd be pretty pissed off right now ... in a little less than two days, Don Sweeney has radically changed the face of the Bruins and, probably, the division dynamic ... was there a more popular Bruin nowadays other than Milan Lucic ... just my opinion, but trading him was akin to trading Cam Neeley ... I suspect the Bruins may suck for a while ... good for the Habs, great for me ... just seeing some of the local B's fans humbled is good enough ... don't know who these three drafts are other than what I read online ... they may/may not pan out, don't know ... now I'm reading speculation on Tuuka Rask being moved ... anyone know how Malcolm Subban is making out ... I know he didn't have a stellar star to his NHL career ...
Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 27, 2015 16:21:35 GMT -5
At least Bruins' fans can still see a Cup (even though they were allowed to bully their way to it) and a Finals' appearance in their rear-view mirrors.
Not many Chicagos out there.
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Post by Lord Bebop on Jun 27, 2015 19:42:41 GMT -5
I hated Milan Lucic, but will miss him being part of the heated rivalry. Lol so true... He added a lot of intrigue going into every game against the Bruins. He was the Heart of that team at least during our clashes with them.... Never forget him ruining Komisarek for us.... Destroying Emelin's knee.... Will be weird seeing him in a kings sweater
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2015 19:52:06 GMT -5
From a princess to a King.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 27, 2015 21:03:54 GMT -5
At least Bruins' fans can still see a Cup (even though they were allowed to bully their way to it) and a Finals' appearance in their rear-view mirrors. Not many Chicagos out there. I won't get into past glories with a Bruins fan ... no one would win kinda thing ... remember the debates we'd have over whether to tank or not ... one tanking season wouldn't have got it done ... both Chicago and Boston sucked for a long time before they got better and those draft picks helped form the cores for each team ... Chicago brought in Marion Hossa and he was an excellent example of an NHLer ... Hossa could easily have worn the "C" in Chicago, IMO ... Boston wasn't going anywhere under Mike O'Connell and it was Brian Burke Peter Chiarelli who built that winner ... Zedno Chara became the Bruin standard and Phil Kessel was moved ... Milan Lucic dominating Mike Komisarek was the beginning of Bruin dominance against the Habs and they soon became the scrooge of the league ... things were good in Boston for a long time, but the more I read about it, the more I realize that management let the Bruins down ... otoh, Chicago's management is more stable ... nay, their organization is more stable ... Chicago will probably win at least one more before their core starts to wear ... Boston is in a tough division and I can't see them as a better team than they were ... and I have no problem with that, dude ... Cheers.
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